On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 16-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
What Got Us Through The Cold
A season can blur into beige before you notice, but this one handed us stories worth keeping. We open with slapstick honesty—a full-on ice wipeout while cradling a house-chicken who promptly saved herself—and a surprise visit from a three-legged husky who turned a quiet clinic morning into a memory. Between the bruises and the belly laughs, we found the thread we were missing: winter is lighter when you collect small joys on purpose.
We warm up at a local artisan market over hot-chocolate cocktails, nerd out about handmade craft, and meet therapy alpacas patient enough to calm anyone’s nervous system. Then we pivot to what got us through long nights: Bob’s Burgers as grounding noise, Stranger Things for 80s nostalgia and character arcs, and a run of sports highs that made the Wolves, the Wild, and the Bears feel like necessary background hum. Culture isn’t just content; it’s how we pace our days and avoid doomscroll spirals.
Not everything we watched was easy. The Diddy documentary sparked anger and hard questions about power, PR, and the cycle of abuse, pushing us to be sharper about media literacy and the kinds of true crime we consume. We trade notes on current reads—from twisty suburban thrillers to an autobiography by a diagnosed sociopath—and why stretching our perspective matters. Music ties it all together: Taylor for catharsis, 2010s playlists for memory lane, and holiday tracks that make a living room glow.
We close with what feels urgent: a plainspoken call for empathy in a noisy, divided time. Stay in your lane, choose words you can live with, and remember that grace scales only when practiced daily. If you need a reset that mixes laughter, culture, and a nudge toward kindness, press play and settle in. If it resonates, share it with a friend, hit follow, and leave a quick review—whose winter could you lighten with a little warmth today?
All right, we're back. Told you we'd be back real soon. This is On Our Best Behavior, the podcast where Emily and I sit down with microphones and pretend we have a plan. I'm Kelly. I'm Emily. And today we're basically doing a winter recap, slash, cultural audit, slash, what are we even doing with our life's check-in? Yeah, good question. We're talking about what we did all winter, the fun stuff. You know, winter actually hasn't even officially started. People who say they love fall love fall and it's their favorite season. This is fall until December 21st when the days start to get longer.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. Yeah, I was born on the day with the shortest amount of daylight.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. That's why that's why December 22nd is my favorite day. The days start getting longer. Oh. All right. So what we did all winter or fall. And the stuff we don't fully remember because winter is just one long beige blur. Well, here it's been pretty white. We're talking about what we're watching, what we're reading, what we're listening to, and what we're doing. And by doing, we mean aggressively resting, hibernating, overcommunicating, that's not true, and pretending we're well-rounded adults. Pretending. Expect hot takes, expect strong opinions about the shows we swore we'd stop watching, expect book talk that turns into therapy, and expect at least one moment where we overshare and immediately regret it. Nope, we never do. We don't regret it, we leave it anyway. This episode is cozy, chaotic, mildly inappropriate. Let's be real, very inappropriate, and absolutely not for productivity purposes. So grab a drink, hide from your responsibilities, and settle in. This is honor best behavior. And winter didn't break us, but it definitely humbled us. Let's go. Winter broke me. It's not even winter. And I fell down the motherfucking stairs this morning. You do on the ice, and I landed on my back. Are you gonna put some salt on that? Okay, so it's a dangerous thing. This is what I do. This is what I do. Okay. So I fall on the ice. Yep. So number one. With your chicken in your in your arms. So I do let my chicken sleep in the house while it's dark for long periods of time because then she doesn't squawk. She loves to be in the house. She comes in the house at night. She just hangs out. She eats her food. She drinks her water. She sits in her window. She goes to bed. She's got a poop shelf blanket. I just dump it out every day. Perfect. It's fine. It works. She's sweet. She wakes up in the morning with me. I feed her. I water her. She clucks around until it's time to go outside. Perfect. Time to go outside this morning. I see that it is icy. I see the ice. I say, Kelly, it's very icy. Be careful. I got my little cute chicken in my hand, and I'm doing the little shuffle, trying to not slip. I fucking that feeling of when you know you're going down. Yeah, and you can know there is nothing you can do to save yourself. It's just whatever the fuck happens is happening. That was me. I was so worried about my little bird. She just flew out of my arms into safety while I cracked right onto my back. Oh. My elbow. And for I somehow, I don't know if I I don't know. You're gonna have a bird. My opposite it it it hurts. You're gonna you're gonna stiff old grandma already.
SPEAKER_00:It's like when you get into a car accident and you're like, at first you're like, oh, I'm fine, and then the next day you're like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_01:So I was like, do I just go back to bed? And I'm like, no, because it's gonna be worse tomorrow and worse even the next day before it starts to feel better. Yeah, that's true. So I laid on the ice and I cried. And this is what I do, this is what makes me feel better. Okay. I sit there as I lay on the ground crying at 6, 10 a.m. Yep. Nobody's outside, just me and my chicken. And uh I think, motherfucking hey, do I have to do everything around here? No one can fucking shovel, no one can fucking put salt down.
SPEAKER_00:Why the fuck do we even have an ice square pack? That would have been vibrant, too.
SPEAKER_01:So then I feel a little bit better. I get up, I assess the damage, I can move. I can break. My chicken's fine. She's looking at me like, what the fuck happened to you? I scoop her up, I put her back in her coop outside with the rest of her flock, and I come inside and I I check on members of my family.
SPEAKER_00:Are you awake? Anybody? No. Are you awake?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Then I get already. I'm like, all right, no one, no one's awake. No one fucking even cares or knows what I felt. Nothing. I could be dead. No one knows. No one cares. Yep. And uh Jackie goes to school and he sees you just. That's what I said. How would you feel if you just saw your dead mom out there on the ice? And uh, so I get in my car and then I'm like, fuck, I don't have my work badge. So then I go back inside doing doing the show. Well, no, I hadn't even left the drive. Okay, I just got all my shit in the car. And then I I'm checking, maybe someone's awake now. Anyone? Hello? Hello, are you awake? And somebody says, Here that I fell. Somebody says, Yeah. I say, I fell a card! I cried. And they say, Are you okay? And I say, No! And then I slam the door and I go to work.
SPEAKER_00:The tantrum that came with it is the best. I would have thrown the same tantrum. Are you okay? No! Bye!
SPEAKER_01:But then I also think I'm funny because I tell them, I laid there and cried and I was like, No, I'm fucking dying! And uh I tell them, like, and that made me feel better. Yeah. Oh, we're glad you felt better. So, anyway, when I told Mackie that I fell, he's texting me, Oh mom, I'm so sorry that happened to you. And he did come home and chopped up all the ice and and cleared the space, and we're gonna get some salt. I fall every year. And do you? Yes. And I tell myself every year, I'm not gonna fall because one of these days I'm gonna break a hip and I ain't gonna be able to get back.
SPEAKER_00:Irene died because she broke her hip. People do. This is what happens. She was also 85 with congestive heart failure and just decided to never walk again. So, but you know, I she broke her hip. That's what started the whole thing. So I get it.
SPEAKER_01:There's always right, it's like a crack in a glass. Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you just that broken hip, when you're especially when you're older, people just don't give a fuck. They're like, I'm done. I'm done.
SPEAKER_01:In my diet, um, the only thing that I strongly eat is Skittles. So I'm sure my bonus and diet do. Diet do and Skittles.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, mine's nerd gummy clusters, so I don't like those.
SPEAKER_01:I know I had an interesting nerd rope in my life one time, and that's right. Yep, yep, I get it.
SPEAKER_00:You can't do that, you can't do that anymore.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so yeah, so I fell earlier this fall. Yeah. Since it actually, I mean, technically with this recording, it's still fall. It's yeah, it's the 17th. So we're gonna be able to do that. I was blowing more leaves into my neighbor's yard and into the road and wherever else I could hide them. And I saw a rock and I was like, oh, I'm gonna throw this rock back into the bed of rocks where it goes. And the leaf blower portion was too heavy, and I asked, I just kettle fell in my front yard with that thing strapped on my back, and I just thought that didn't hurt. Like that was a slow motion tumble. Just down she blows.
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SPEAKER_01:And then I laid there for a little bit, like, I wonder how many people just saw that. And then I'm like, I think you know your neighbors really well. I hope it gave them a giggle because if I saw that, that's some funny fucking shit.
SPEAKER_00:That's so funny. I can just picture it now.
SPEAKER_01:Just boom boom. And I just kind of laid there, like, how many fucking times do I gotta tumble around in my yard? You think that thing's a ball pit or some shit? Oh, there's Kelly frolick leaning around on the ground again.
SPEAKER_00:Reminds me of when you say ball pit, it reminds me of the episode of Big Bang Theory when Sheldon plays in a ball pit and he's having a mental breakdown and he just pops up and he goes bazinga and then go draws back down, and Leonard's trying to find him, and then he just pops up in random places like bazinga, dives back down. In the ball pit. I remember that. I remember that.
SPEAKER_01:I remember that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that was a good episode.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. I want to talk about. So there was a day where there was like uh oh, the Inoka tree lighting, and I saw that they had this thing called like the artisan market at Mill City. Yep. Which is this cute little place I'd actually never been in there until it was adorable. So cute. So anyway, I had to text Emily like, what's the chance that you are free sometime today to go to this market? Because I saw these pictures online, they're so cool. And you're like, Well, I could go at three, and I'm like, that's fine, I can make that work because I had nothing going on that day. So anyway, we ended up like just randomly like popping in, yeah, checking it out, and it was so cute.
SPEAKER_00:They had like a cocktail stand you like hot chocolate, cocktails, like mimosas, everything. Yeah, the Grinch.
SPEAKER_01:I had a Grinch mimosa. I had some rum chata hot chocolate. Yeah. And uh they had food that looked good. We didn't have any food, but anyway, it was so cute. So you had your drink or your little counter plate, and then you just could walk around at all these like shops, and it's people like people actually make this stuff.
SPEAKER_00:It's all that's what that's what con was like, and that's the shit that gets me. So I'm so glad your eyes light up, like ooh, I know. I'm so glad that you were with me, and you're like, mmm, I'm like, god damn it, it's terrible. Because like I just love small businesses, and that's all it is. It's just small businesses, it's homemade, handmade stuff. Like, people put the time and effort and energy into these products, and like and like stuff like people like it's like I don't know if it had to meet a certain criteria, but like it was quality product, like quality stuff, those necklaces that had like type pearls and stuff. Oh, I loved those. Yeah, it just yeah, it was so cute. They had so many different vendors that were just awesome, and the people are so nice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, everyone was super nice, always so nice, which I struggle with sometimes. I think people are rude and pushy and whatever. We are not in the Bahamas, but it wasn't like that at all.
SPEAKER_00:It was very it was very welcoming. The Bahamas drove me bonkers. I'm just saying people in general. I know, but that made you think of the Bahamas. It did when that guy was like, Oh, look at this ring, and I said, Oh no, I have too fat of fingers. Your standard size ring is not gonna fit me. He goes, just try it on, and I put it on, it doesn't even fit my pinky. He goes, Oh, it looks great. And I was like, Of course you would say that. It's three thousand dollars. No fucking thank you. I'm getting on a ship in two hours. And it's not real.
SPEAKER_01:God some of those places, like, that's not real. They really fuck with you. And so then incidentally, we were leaving the artists in market, and there was fucking llama alpacas. Oh my god, that was so cute! And I made Emily take a picture with me, and it was really fun. We even had to wait in line.
SPEAKER_00:They were so cute though, and like there were therapy llama alpacas. The people who trained them like just seemed like such great people. Like it just they were just patient and like just kind of like just cut cuddled up to you a little bit, and oh, they were so cute.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, the people were friendly, so willing to do a photo, and yeah, the animals were just like you could just tell they're very well behaved, very right there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Nature, like a fact.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say thing, but that's not right. And then I was gonna say being or soul.
SPEAKER_00:They're just like they're used to knowing that they are they, you know, to be a calming person's thing in someone's life, kind of thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I just never see therapy animals other than like dogs. Yeah. So to see like therapy. When I run into a therapy dog at work, oh, they're my favorite. This mor oh, I told you. So this morning, then so after I fell down on the ice, then I'm at work, and there's a three-legged husky running around inside the clinic building. And I'm like, I thought it was somebody's therapy dog. Yeah, and there was a lady there, she's like, It's not my dog, it was in here. And this is at like 6 30 in the morning, so no one's really there. No, no one's really there. And uh, so I tried to call the owner, I tried to text the owner and never responded. And so then they had to call security because this dog was so sweet, but like she was like so excited and like jumping up on everybody, and there's like a lot of people in that building. It's gonna make me cry. Doing like dialysis and therapy and rehab and stuff. So, I mean, they that the dog wouldn't mean to it's a safety hazard. Yeah, it's a speaking of fucking see, there you go. Can't have a dog running around, can't have a heater.
SPEAKER_00:Nope.
SPEAKER_01:So, anyway, I just had a very weird start to my day. So, anyway, something going on. Was not a therapy dog, but it was a very sweet dog. Oh, all right. Do you want to talk a little bit about what we are watching and listening to and reading? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Do you know what you're doing what you're doing? I watching um I'm really into Bob's burgers right now. Like, is it new ones or old? Um, well, I watched every episode from like season one through like six, and then I kind of stopped for years after that. Um, so I started the whole thing over. Comic-con kind of got me like really into it again because there's a bunch of Bob's burger stuff there. And so I started that up. What's the girl with the bunny ears? I always love her. Oh, Louise. Yeah, Louise. Louise. I love her. Um, and so I started watching it again. Um from like start to beginning. Start to start to finish. Um, so I think I'm on like season 11 or something like that now. Um, it's just like I like to have it in the background, like if I'm like reading or doing like diamond art, you know, all you know, just trying to keep my mind occupied and not doom scroll on my phone. Um and then also, I mean, sports. I just oh yeah, it's the wild sports season for you, yeah. The wild have been so good. We got Quinn Hughes, that was an amazing trade. I actually cheer for a team where the GM made an aggressive move and did something really well, and the bears are playing good. And the And they had a sh they had a shaky start. They lost twice to yes, but then they all of a sudden came, yep.
SPEAKER_01:And everyone else started losing and they started winning.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, and then the wolves have been playing really well, they've been fun to watch. So I just yeah, there's usually the wolves or the wild or football on, like most of the time for me. It's just sports are always kind of what I have on most. Yeah. What about you? Do you watch like college football and basketball? Um, I'll do college football, depending on the team. Like, I'll always if the gophers are on, I'll I'll turn them on and stuff like that. And then like I've watched a few like Boise State games. Um, Notre Dame, I've watched a few times, just not as big into it. Yeah. But if it's on or if it's on, I'll turn if there's a team where I'm like, oh yeah, I know that team and I'll watch it, but not like religiously. Yeah. So where I pay money to make sure I can watch the game like I do with the Bears. Football, yes. And baseball.
SPEAKER_01:Baseball.
SPEAKER_00:Which that's over now, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, baseball spring training. Yeah, spring training will be in March. So I'm watching, so Mackie and I like binged when Stranger Things came out on right after Thanksgiving. And, you know, gosh, there was really a big gap in between last season and this season. And so I we didn't like rewatch the last episode of the last season. I'm like, I think like let's just watch the recap and I'll remember. And I really like struggled. Like, I'm like, what's that guy's gonna be in the street? It's been like what two years? Who was that? I'm like, I don't remember, I didn't remember Robin. She just looked so different to me. I couldn't remember Luke's name. I was just trying to remember like some of the stuff that was going on or had happened or where they had picked up from. Um, but Mac did a good job. He remembered a lot of stuff, but some stuff we had to Google. But anyway, they released three episodes, and of course, the third one you just wanted to watch the next one so bad, and it doesn't come out until I think Christmas Day. Oh, that's annoying. That's how they get you. So Mix, so we are excited. That's like a show that we really like. It's a not my typical show. Do you watch Stranger Things? No, I've never seen it. I'm not a sci-fi person, but the storyline is so so was so intriguing. It's kind of got you know, it's kind of gone off the deep end a little bit, but still fine. I can still handle that. And the character development is so good. Okay. It takes place in like the 80s, and like the nostalgia for me is a hundred. Okay. I just love like the way they dress, the music they listen to, the things they're into, uh, Pyrex in the background, the de the decor of the houses and the way the houses were set up, wallpaper. Like oh yeah. I just love the cars they drove. Like, I just love all that kind of stuff. So there's just so many details in that show that I appreciate.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I gotta ask you if you've seen something.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Diddy documentary. Yes. Oh my God, I did that. But I did watch that. I binged that in one night. Oh, I Sam and I now have a thing of what would Fitty do? Like, seriously, what would he do? And we're like, let's do it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, tell me a situation where it's a what would Fitty do situation.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I don't like you. What would Fitty do? Release a documentary on you because you fucking suck as a human being. You're a shitty person. What would Fitty do? Release a documentary that goes worldwide.
SPEAKER_01:So, what did you think when they talked to the jur, like some of the jurors?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I was pissed. Pissed, absolutely pissed. The girl juror that they interviewed, first of all, none of the jurors were sequestered. They all got to go home and have exposure to social media every night. And the that that to me is just irreprehensible. Like it that's disgusting. That's not how you have a safe and fair trial, especially when celebrities involved. Yeah. The chick that they interviewed clearly was a fan. Look at her face and the way she talks, and she's like, Oh, I know.
SPEAKER_01:Are you being judgy right now?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I am. I will be judgy.
SPEAKER_01:I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't calling me out for it.
SPEAKER_00:I was wondering if that's what I was hearing. Okay. I will be judgy about this. Okay. But you clearly can tell she was a fan. And the way she was like, I've seen him make that face. I'm making the band before. Bitch, making a band was 25 years ago. How the hell do you remember a face he made on 25 years ago if you're not a fan of him? Like, come the fuck on. And then to not believe someone because they're so emotional. Do you understand abuse? And then that guy, when he was like, Well, he would beat her up and then she would just be with him, and he, you know, she loved clearly that was love. And I'm like, do you not understand the cycle of abuse?
SPEAKER_01:I want to see this guy's relationship history.
SPEAKER_00:Like, do you not understand the cycle of abuse? The cycle of manipulation and the shit this man held over her head for years, and this facade you have to put on to act happy in public.
SPEAKER_01:And they people need to remember like how old was she when this happened to her?
SPEAKER_00:Correct.
SPEAKER_01:We've talked about this so many times. What you think is love, what you think a relationship is when you're 20 versus when you're and when you're being promised the world of a career that you've always dreamed of, the manipulation that that goes through.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm sorry, never once would I think that woman, the way he beat her up, the way he beat Cassie up. We've all seen the video. That she knows it's not love, but she's trapped. She is physically trapped and cannot get out. She tried to run away. That's what happened. That is the cycle of abuse that she went through. And she's not the only one. She's at this point, who the fuck knows what's gonna happen? Um, but I was so pissed off when I saw those two. I was like, all of this is disgusting. Every single fucking thing. And we all know he fucking killed Tupac or had Tupac killed. Oh, I've known that for forever. I've got to be a good thing. The trial until next year. The trial is next year, so that'll be interesting.
SPEAKER_01:And if he didn't kill Pac, he got Pac killed. He had hired the guy and you fucking got Biggie killed too. Yeah, it's fucked.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, fucking for sure. I the the um guy that kind of confessed to it, I can't remember his name, he's in jail. Right now, his trial is next year. And so that I'm gonna watch that closely because he's gonna tell the whole thing, and we know he fucking hired someone to kill Pac. And he uh purposely, intentionally had Biggie where Biggie was at to get Biggie killed. Like this man is the most abusive, narcissistic, manipulative jackass, and he has uh blinded his sons. He has got daughters, yeah. But he's his sons think this behavior is okay. Of course they do. Like all support. Their dad's P. Diddy, they only see what they want to see. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:They the whole thing I You either see what you want to see or like refuse to be a part of it at all.
SPEAKER_00:Just I oh my god, I it was so revolting the things that he did to women. I just love that Fiddie is like Fuck this. He's like, I obtained it illegal, I obtained it legally. Here it is. Here it is. I mean, if you don't want to if seeing isn't believing, and then when he's like, Oh, you want that five grand you were for that one girl, he's like, You want that five grand? Oh, by the way, I'll you know, help you with this if you if you help me with this, like the fucking manipulation right there, and the fact that he was like, Oh, we'll get away with this, we'll get away with this. No, you fucking didn't. You should have gotten worse, but these jurors clearly were influenced. And then did you hear the part where like his lawyers and stuff would be talking to the social media people of like coercing them into saying different things than what was the reality to make him have a better PR image? For sure, and that's how, and when these jurors That's why the media gets in the way, correct. And especially when these jurors are not sequestered, they're going home and they're seeing the shit that these social media people are being paid to say, and then their brain is being washed.
SPEAKER_01:It's all fucking bullshit. That's what's scary about the world, right? We only know what the media wants us to know.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly, exactly, unless someone becomes a whistleblower and then you can really figure it out. That's scary though.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, that documentary was fucked up. I was watching a lot of unsolved mysteries, but I have to stop watching that show. Why? Because I really want them to solve the mystery. And they do then I forget they never fucking solve it.
SPEAKER_00:We never know how it ends. No, you should just watch 48 hours or dateline because there's usually a ri a resolution. Yeah, resolution. I mean, I watch a lot of fucking Dateline. I know.
SPEAKER_01:I love to, but I want you know, I I like the the setup for the Unsolved Mysteries and they like interview so many people, and then if you know anything, have you ever watched Kokenda? I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00:Um, so he was on Annie, he's a detective from Colorado, and he relives all a lot of his like arrests and murders and things like that he that he's had to solve. And so he talks about the crime from it start to finish of like this is what happened, this is kind of figured out, and then they like if they've solved it or not. And he does such a really good telling of each of these stories. Like he was a detective forever, and he's famous for going, my my no no no. Like what? Just like in like a mm-mm-mm-oh, okay kind of way of like we knew that was bad, so he yeah, he's an old man that's he just yes, he he's got good stuff.
SPEAKER_01:He's intriguing to watch, yeah. And then, of course, I watched the Taylor Swift docuseries, the first two.
SPEAKER_00:Waiting for all of them to come out so I can binge them all in one day.
SPEAKER_01:Don't you see spoilers like so many reels and blips?
SPEAKER_00:I just scroll right past him, scroll right past him. All right, what are you reading? Um, She's Not Sorry by Mary Kubica. I think that's I read that, yeah. Yeah, you read it. I'm only like a hundred and some odd pages into it. I really like it. Um, and then I started today at work listening to an audiobook called Sociopath. So it's an it's an autobiography uh written by a woman who is diagnosed as a sociopath. Um, so it's not in prison? Nope. I guess not all sociopaths murders, but no, but not a lot of potential. Yeah, but like, and so right now it I'm just in like the first few chapters talking about like her childhood and stuff like that, but it talks about like how she's been able to go through life being a sociopath and like navigating it in certain ways of like I know I should feel something, but I don't feel something, and you know, all of these things.
SPEAKER_01:So do people know she's a sociopath?
SPEAKER_00:Okay, she hasn't like yeah, I think she got like clinically diagnosed and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:So like she's it's not a secret, like in her family group or whatever. No, uh-uh. I was gonna say something like that. What are you reading? I am reading this book right now in it's called Before Us. Mm-hmm. And it's about this lady. It's actually about two different stories, and I just started it too. I had just finished a book that was called so I finished a book called My Husband Across the Street or something like that. Okay. Yeah, I saw that one. That was very interesting because it was this lady, um, like they live in like a townhouse community, and a really old man lived there, died, and then his grandson inherited the property. Oh, sure, and then ended up marrying the lady that lives across the street, and they just end up like not living together. They just keep their own separate places. It's like an ideal situation for me. Honestly, without the murder, yeah, and so um, yeah. So then, like, whatever the daughter has a baby, and then there's this other lady that lives in the community, and she like just keeps coming over to help and help and help, and the husband is like really freaked out by her, and she's like super sus of him, and then stuff kind of starts happening. So it wasn't it was good, it was good. Uh now I'm reading this book. Yeah, it's called Before Us, and so it's about uh the two different ladies in two different situations. One's in a situation where she's like a trust fund baby, and she feels like her husband before they got married, he was like a really great guy, and then since they got married, like he's been having an affair and he's just been a real big dickhead, and so she I don't think there was a prenup, which is so stupid to me, but she feels like he's trying to divorce her and like shove her out and take everything. And then there's another lady who has got like a really uh she like is a mom and she's got kids, but she like feels nothing for her kids, and oh so anyway, it's like somehow these two stories are gonna write align somehow. Okay. Um, so it's interesting so far. But yeah, that book I read my husband across the street. That was good, huh? Interesting. Yeah, when you start a new book, I feel like I really don't know what to say about it because I'm still trying to figure out what's going on.
SPEAKER_00:It's only a 300 page book, but I'm only 100 pages in and these types of these types of books, the yeah, the I'm not um she's not sorry, but it's like a little like only 300 and some odd pages, and so I don't feel like I really get into it until like page 200, 250. Like it's still just developing the plot right now. Yeah, it's starting to get a little creepy. Like, I'm excited to go home and read it again tonight. Um, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Did you know that Frida McFadden like wears a wig and glasses? She's a doctor. I know that, but I didn't know that she altered her uh appearance to not be recognized. I knew and she tried to hide it from her colleagues.
SPEAKER_00:Could you imagine if people patients knew her real people knew her real name and stuff? They would like and where she would. Because you can Google any doctors.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, I know I did know that. I get that. I just didn't know that I didn't know. She was still practicing and I didn't know. I mean, I guess it never really looked that hard. I just thought, like, it's not right or I love Freedom when she's like, that's not a bad wig.
SPEAKER_00:Which I mean, I think that's intentional. Yeah. I think that's really intentional. And like I've heard that she sometimes will do like nose prosthetic a little bit to kind of really alter it. Okay. Which I totally get. I get it. I totally get. I heard that she's a brain surgeon or a neurosurgeon of some type, but I don't know because I know neurosurgeons and I don't think any of them have time to write a novel.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I just don't I don't think she's like a neurosurgeon. I just think she does something with she's gotta do something with the brain. But she had said, like, right, she could retire off of or just be a writer. But she's like, I worked so hard for this degree. She only works like one day a week as a doctor now.
SPEAKER_00:But she wants to keep her skills up and everything, which her credentials and everything. I think that's totally commendable.
SPEAKER_01:What are you listening to?
SPEAKER_00:Music-wise? Yeah, oh god. I mean, I always Taylor's always an option. And then, well, after the Diddy documentary, I listened to a lot of Eminem and Fiddy and You were like, yeah, power, power, I was on it. Um, and then I just so I'm always on Spotify, and then I recently rediscovered my Apple music that I have. Yeah. And I was like, oh shit, this is some good songs from like the 2010s that like when I used to buy music like for like an iPod or something.
SPEAKER_01:Was it like your library you had? Yeah, I forgot that.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, I forgot I had this album, and a lot of it is like the good, like mid-2000s country that I really, really liked, like Kip Moore and things like that.
SPEAKER_01:Like, so yeah, that's not I like older. I mean, I do too.
SPEAKER_00:I love 80s and 90s country too, and like early 2000s, but like there's certain songs and artists from like bring shabby pens that just like still just because that's when I would go to concerts all the time. Now I just don't. So for like 10 years, I was always going to these country concerts and stuff, and I'm like fucking too old. But it's too late, it's too whatever. I want to go to bed.
SPEAKER_01:I'm still listening to Life of a Showgirl. Oh, yeah, and I'm listening to Christmas music.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I do. When you came over and we had Christmas music, yeah, Kelly came over to my house and helped me put up my Christmas tree.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, and Hank was so happy with his tree screen.
SPEAKER_00:He loves laying under the tree, loves it.
SPEAKER_01:And I was feeling proud of myself because I feel like Hank came out and he usually doesn't when I'm so he was social.
SPEAKER_00:He sat on my lap. I think it's because I was on the couch. Okay. So he could come up to me and sit on my lap and like be like, okay, yeah, this is my safe spot. Because if we're at the kitchen table and stuff, he can't come up and he doesn't cuddle on my lap at the kitchen table, but on the couch he does. Yeah. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:All right. The last thing I I want to I know it's at 30 minutes, and uh, and this is never a quick conversation, but I want to try to make it a little quick. I just want to talk about Bondi Beach. Oh my god, it's awful. Did you have you watched any of the videos? No, I don't want to. But so this so if you don't know about it, it was like a Hanukkah celebration in Australia, and a father and a son decided to go shoot up the celebration. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Killing 16 people.
SPEAKER_01:Killed a guy, so Jewish people. So, right, so the target is Jews. And number and number two, like, okay, they killed little kids, terrible. They killed a lot of like people, terrible. They killed a guy who fucking survived Auschwitz. How how fucking sick of irony is that that you I don't understand how people just say, like, I hate Jews and we're gonna kill them all. We're just people in the world. Right, right. Any group, any group, but yeah, I hate blacks, I hate whites, I hate this, I hate that, I hate.
SPEAKER_00:I don't understand where the gun violence comes into play. Like, you may not like someone for whatever reason. Keep that to yourself.
SPEAKER_01:Why why do you feel so strongly that you think that they need to die? And the only commonality that you know about them or anything about them is that they're Jewish. You don't know, they could be like the nicest person, they could have donated you an organ and saved your life. I mean, there's so many I so I don't understand the thought process, and I think it's mental illness. Um I always go back to that. It has to be. There's no way you can do that with a sound mind.
SPEAKER_00:I think there's some sort of indoctrination that comes with it too. I don't know if I don't know what that word means it being like coerced into believing something, like brainwashed or like a cult situation. Yeah, and so I think I don't know if this is fully true or not. I I could be completely incorrect when I say this, so I'm being very open about that, but I read something where they were strong Christians for a long time and then converted to Muslim, and that is when the hatred started because of everything that's going on between Israel and um Gaza and things like that, and like so it's all of that, like I it all has to come into play, but like hate is not like nothing violence is not the answer for any of it, and that now is not especially now is not the time to point fingers or anything like that. It's like you whether this is accurate or not, did they seek out to become hateful, spiteful people? Like, I I don't were they because people were like, oh, they were totally normal. You know, I watched an interview of someone that worked with the kid, like, you know, all these things, and it just I the one thing I appreciate about all of this is how transparent the Australian media has been of what they have shown and what they have talked about. They are not sugarcoating any of it, they are showing everything. I saw videos of the dad being taken down by a Muslim man and like trying to just get him down to the ground. Um and then the Do you mean a Jewish man? No, he was Muslim. Oh, but I thought you said he was being taken down by a dad that was shooting, yeah, another Muslim came up and fought the gun out of his hand. Oh, he did. Unarmed.
SPEAKER_01:But don't I thought so he wasn't part of the no, it was just the father-son.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, um, so the unarmed and took an AR or a big rifle out of this guy's hands. Um, and then you can see in the videos um the police actually killing the dad, um, and then injury the injuring the son and the son getting taken down and things like that. Like they've just been very open and transparent about this is the shit that not hiding anything, not hiding any of it. We're not lying about anything. This is exactly what happened, and it's fucked up. And it is very chilling to watch those videos, but it also is it helped me open my eyes of like the reality of like all of this and the things that these kids might fear in high school. Like, we were talking about these, there've been these random threats online to all these different high schools throughout the twin cities right now. This day is we're gonna target this high school, this day we're gonna target this high school, so they're having you know, whether it's true or not, they're still having to close down these schools and put the fear of God in these kids for no fucking reason. It just when I see those, I'm like, this is the shit that these kids have seen. I thankfully have never seen anything like that. I experienced one lockdown in high school and that was it. Um, but like this is normal for kids these days now, and that is the thing that is scary to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so one thing I really want to say, and this is probably the last podcast episode of this year, is I know I especially uh can be, you know, make a I I think I'm funny, I I try to make jokes, I have some dry humor, but at the end of the day, what I want you to know is I think this this world, we might not like who the president is, and we might not be happy with if it's Republican in office or Democrat in office, but when I see people protesting, and Democrats are calling Republicans right-handed trolls and fascists and name-calling, and they're throwing hate, and and same thing, the Republican Party is doing that to the Democratic Party, and Muslims are doing that to the Jews, and there's just like ISIS doing that to the Somali community here, and what I just want everyone to think about is it's one thing to be like funny with your friends um or at your own house, but at the end of the day, like be kind, be treated the way you want to be treated, and remember like we're all humans, and just because we're Christian or Jewish or Muslim or whatever, we're still people, and that one thing doesn't define us, and we should all be so proud to be part of a country where we can be ourselves and believe in what we want to believe in, but just be kind and respect everybody because us calling each other names and not being peaceful and not we need to we need to unite as a country, yeah, because clearly I think we need to unite as a world, like there's yeah, as a yeah, even as a world, but I'm just saying like this country right now is feels like in crisis, but instead of us hating each other, we need to band together. And you know, uh I hate to say this, but I feel like when 9-11 happened, I feel like the country really came together as one. For sure. And I don't know why it's so different now. I because we if we don't like our leaders, we should be better than that. Yeah, not sink to that level.
SPEAKER_00:Right. I yeah, I don't have an answer. I just there's so much hate in this world, in this country, and it is emotionally and mentally draining sometimes. Um, a co-worker of mine, real quick, she went to Australia on her honeymoon. Um, and I ran it, I asked her, I was like, Did you guys go? She goes, Yeah, we spent a couple days on that beach. And I was like, Have you watched the video? She's like, It is the most bone-chilling thing to know that like I was at a place like that and this is what was happening. And I'm like, I can't even imagine. I cannot even imagine. Like, I'm still traumatized having a gun pointed at me in 2021. Like, I still physically cannot touch a gun. So, like, I cannot imagine the trauma that anybody is experiencing now from any of the shootings that have happened.
SPEAKER_01:That just shouldn't happen to anybody. Nobody should have to be in that situation.
SPEAKER_00:You should not have to be scared to go to a park and have a celebration. You should not have to be scared to walk into Walmart. Like, you should not have to be scared to just breathe without being fearful of being shot down randomly for no reason. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Just I just want you to think about when you're snarky to your coworkers or you get road rage or no. That's fine. As long as you're not say whatever you want to say to yourself in your car. You don't need to do gestures. I don't. That's fine. That's fine. We're all we are human. We are gonna get upset, we're gonna get rattled. But try to be try to treat people the way you want to be treated, and don't be a snarky asshole. Don't be a bitch. Don't talk about people behind their back. Yep. We're all gonna have shit. And if it doesn't involve you, stay in your goddamn lane. Oh my god, stay in your fucking lane.
SPEAKER_00:Nice, be nice, people. I just I've been saying that a lot lately is just stay in your fucking lane.
SPEAKER_01:And you know, it's just it's okay if your favorite color is blue and mine is purple. There's still a that's not a bad trait to have that your favorite color's not the same as mine. No, we don't want to be a country or a world where everyone is the same. That's the beauty of this world. Yep. So instead of hating the differences, embrace them and love and respect them and be appreciative that we can have so much diversity and learn it from one another and grow one another. Yeah. I respect your culture, respect my culture. I don't care. Yeah. But not everyone is perfect, and not everyone is a hundred percent right in what they think, feel, and believe. Yeah. And you just have to have empathy for others.
SPEAKER_00:Toxically empathy.
SPEAKER_01:Well, not that far. Is there anything that else that you want to say?
SPEAKER_00:No, I don't think so. Yeah, it's just it's a fucked up time that we're in. Feels really dark and heavy.
SPEAKER_01:But Austin. It's on the verge of a new year. And for some reason, people want to start new things in a positive. That's not happening. In a positive way. That's not happening. In a new year. So you know what? If we can be the change to one person, Emily, we helped.
SPEAKER_00:I appreciate your optimism.
SPEAKER_01:Usually it's you.
SPEAKER_00:I'm just a little cynical these days.
SPEAKER_01:All right, friends. That's gonna be a wrap on this episode of Honor Best Behavior, where we learned that Ice is undefeated, Kelly is not, and a random three-legged dog can absolutely steal the entire show at work. We laughed, we processed minor injuries, and reminded ourselves and maybe you that being kind costs nothing. Staying in your lane is free. And if you don't have anything nice to say, maybe just don't say anything at all. Revolutionary, we know. As this is probably our last episode of the year, we just want to say thank you for hanging out with us, laughing with us, and letting us overshare into your ears all year long. Be kind, be safe, enjoy your people while they're here, because one day they won't be. Hug your family, pet the dogs, especially the three legged husky ones, and take it easy on those icy sidewalks. From the two of us here at On Our Best Behavior, we wish you the happiest of holidays and the best new year yet. And chill to the next episode.
SPEAKER_00:Bye.
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