On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 16-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
Friendship, Fun, And Fierce Opinions
We start with a laugh-out-loud hangover debrief, then pivot into a sharp, empathetic breakdown of the Love Is Blind reunion—calling out awkward AI-sounding lines, unrealistic body expectations, and the way job titles can mask the truth about class and respect. It’s messy, honest, and kinder than the internet’s comment section.
From there, we shift into joy and nostalgia. We map out Emily's Comic-Con game plan—VIP passes, a Brendan Fraser moment, Legends of the Hidden Temple shirts—and talk about why fandoms matter when you’re building new memories after loss. It’s part shopping list, part love letter to the 90s, and a reminder that shared rituals make grief gentler to carry.
The heart of the episode is a candid conversation about ADHD and executive function. We unpack how everyday tasks can feel impossible, the power of gratitude journaling to shift mood, and realistic coping strategies that actually help: cleaning support to break shame cycles, music on burned-out days, and permission to choose tiny wins. Then we go deep on SNAP benefits and food access, disagreeing without disconnecting. One of us argues for healthier guardrails; the other defends dignity of choice and the realities of food deserts. No slogans, no shouting—just lived experience and public health context meeting personal values.
If you’re here for entertainment with substance—hangovers, reality TV, Comic-Con plans, ADHD truths, and a respectful policy debate—you’re our people. Tap follow, share with a friend who loves Love Is Blind and big-hearted arguments, and leave a review telling us where you stand on snacks and support.
Welcome back to Honor Best Behavior, the podcast where best behavior is more of a suggestion than a rule.
SPEAKER_01:If you came here for calm, composed, and classy, you just turn want to turn back now.
SPEAKER_02:But if you're into chaos, charm, and questionable life choices, congratulations. You found your people.
SPEAKER_01:We're talking about life, love, and all the weird stuff in between. You know, the things you text your best friend about at midnight?
SPEAKER_02:I actually don't know anything about that because I I sleep at midnight. Number one, I'm in sleep at midnight. And number two, if I never text anyone at midnight, I might think about texting them and then think that I text them, but I actually never did. Remember when I texted you and you're like, no, I nope. I don't remember because I never got it. You'll be like, Are you alive? I'm like, yeah, I texted you last night. Oh no, I just thought about texting you. Exactly. So buckle up, pour yourself something strong, coffee, martini. Definitely not doing that again. Nope. Or some emotional support, Diet Coke, and let's get into it.
SPEAKER_01:Because today we're definitely not going to be on our best behavior.
SPEAKER_02:So after last week, we went to Boston's and had some martinis. And after having a glass or two of wine here. One lot. Okay, so one bottle of wine between the two of us. Two, so that was two big pour, one glass each. Then we went to Boston's. We sure did. We had each two martinis. I had two lemon drops. You had one lemon drop and one espresso. Mistake. Then we had, then I ordered shots when you went to the bathroom.
SPEAKER_01:It wasn't me. I went to the bathroom and I'm walking into the bathroom and I hear you go, can we get two gummy bear shots? They were so yummy. They were so good. And we did, we sipped on them. I don't shoot them. Yeah, I enjoy the flavor. Especially the fruity ones. Like if I'm doing like a shot of tequila or a shot of whiskey, which in my age I do not do, but if I were, I would down those right away. Whereas those types, I need like a water moccasin or something. I gotta sip them.
SPEAKER_02:And same with martinis, like right? You sip them. Oh, those are. I am feeling like I'm just sipping, having some fun the next day. And you don't have to work the next day. Yeah. The notchos were disappointment, which I didn't have to work. That's why I knew I could kind of let loose. But anyway, so then we got back home. We had to listen to the Taylor Swift album because it's only 40 minutes. And we were talking about it when we were there. And they were playing it. Yes, and Mac Dog came with because he wanted to eat. So he was our designated driver. So that was 100% safe. And then I came back home and I had him one more drink and then I was dead. I puked, I pooped, I lost five pounds, I think, when I weighed myself the next day.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't puke. Like when I went home, I like I was like, okay, I feel good. I watched the Love is Blind reunion. Yes, I went that's next on my list. So I've only watched it a little tipsy, so I Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Not me. I watched it soberly.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if I fully remember it or not. I do remember a lot of it. Um, but the next day, I was like, oh, in the morning, I kind of feel funky, kind of not. And it was like towards the afternoon, I was like, I feel like crap. So it my hangover did not hit me until two o'clock. And I was like, I gotta go home.
SPEAKER_02:I was definitely drunk during the night because I woke up not feeling good, took ibuprofen, like went back to sleep on the couch just because I was hot and had a headache, and then I just felt like tired and slow. Yeah. And then I felt so thirsty.
SPEAKER_01:I hate that.
SPEAKER_02:And I just wanted a fountain sprite.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you were smart. You went to McDonald's.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't ever go there.
SPEAKER_01:McDonald's breakfast is my cure for a hangover. And I was like, I'm I'm not hungover. I don't need it. It'll be fine. I don't think I felt better until I had McDonald's that Friday. Or what was it? Was that a Wednesday night? That was a Wednesday night. So that Friday morning is when I got McDonald's again, and then I felt better.
SPEAKER_02:I know. And I don't usually like McDonald's. And like I was like, what sounds good and nothing sounded good, but that hash brown, and I love their sausage burritos. Hit hit.
SPEAKER_01:No, their the sausage looks like rabbit poop.
SPEAKER_02:No, it doesn't. I am definitely a professional in knowing what rabbit poop looks like, and it is not close resemblance.
SPEAKER_01:You know what looked I don't know what gross meat. What really looked gross, like I don't eat ground meat. I don't like any ground meat whatsoever. It's gross unless it's like in a casing, in a dumpling where it's not loose, I'm fine. I I won't eat it.
SPEAKER_02:I don't like your meat loose.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, I don't. It's absolutely disgusting to me. It needs to be wrapped up and cased. Sure does. Wrap that fucker up. Um, but in school, our school lunches, the taco meat always looked like poop to me.
SPEAKER_02:I don't ever remember eating school tacos.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I never did because they didn't have chicken. Um my my I my senior year, I lived off of French fries and cheese sauce.
SPEAKER_02:I love the pizza. Oh, the that's those soy hamburgers. I know you don't like ground meat, but they are fucking good. I miss, I like I want to eat one now.
SPEAKER_01:You can order like high school.
SPEAKER_02:It's not the same. It's not the same. I'm telling you, the school lunches aren't what they were.
SPEAKER_01:No, they have definitely worsened. Worsened. I yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if he's gonna do much. I know, I'm hopeful. All right, reunion. Yes. So this I'll tell you, I'll start and then you can kick in when things sound familiar. Your boy Jordan was funny.
SPEAKER_01:I still really enjoy him.
SPEAKER_02:He was I I laughed and I actually liked him more on the reunion than I ever did.
SPEAKER_01:I think he is a very classy stand-up guy from what he has shown. I've seen him in like post-reunion interviews with Megan and so he won't say a bad word about her. Neither one of them. Neither one of them. They are both so respectful, and it made me like Megan more because I was not really a big fan. And I just, yeah, I think he's just a very well-rounded dude. He just seems cool. I don't know. I just I like his, I've always liked his vibe. And like I still think he's cute. I know you think it's weird, but I think he's cute. Like, give me dark hair and tattoos.
SPEAKER_02:I think his teeth looked whiter at the reunion.
SPEAKER_01:Probably, probably.
SPEAKER_02:So I know you probably listened to the the show last week, Jordan. So thanks for getting those teeth whitened up. It was totally us. And uh, spoiler, you called it, Megan had a baby with another dude. Yeah, months after the show.
SPEAKER_01:So the show was taped about two years ago. So they did Minneapolis and Denver back to back. Okay. Um, or kind of overlapping. So Minneapolis was two years ago, and then Denver was like back to back and stuff. So, from my understanding, the weddings took place in April-ish of 24. Okay. So my guess is they broke up April-ish of 24, and then she said she met this guy, Paul, in like July. So then she said they got pregnant three months later. Then I was doing the math, and I'm like, okay, so she had a summer baby, which he looked about like two, three months old. Yeah, he was a few months old. So it made the timeline made sense to me. I know there's people on the internet that are like, the timelines don't make sense. And I'm like, these reality shows are all so far behind from where we are in right now. Like, I watch Sister Wives. Sister Wives is like a year and a half, two years behind.
SPEAKER_02:It's that's what's crazy to me is how they can keep their they have to keep their life so private. And like her amount of NDAs they have to sign is insane. Yeah. Okay. There was really okay, so I'm trying to remember. Joe is a douchebag. Oh, he sucks. He was always a douchebag. I didn't really like Madison either, but like she did try to like communicate with him.
SPEAKER_01:Just admit it that you were not attracted to her because she was a little bit thicker. Like it was very obvious. No, she's beautiful. Like, I am a curvy girl and I will be like, she always is not fat. No, she's not any fat.
SPEAKER_02:But again, her body type is a little bit more curvy. Correct. It's not fat.
SPEAKER_01:No, but men like him, I'm going to stereotype. I'm going to stereotype white men like him have a thing for stick-thin, non-curved women. Like Casey, who is fucking fake is. Oh my god. And the amount of men that she's dated from that cast. She'll f fuck anything. Oh gosh. Eskimo sisters, you're disgusting. I was appalled when she said that. That's nasty. Even if I was Eskimo sisters with that. Talk about we're not men. We keep mentioning. Men don't talk about that. Gross men will be like, oh, I hit that too. I guess. Um could you tell who I wasn't imitating imitating who? Oh, yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I try to block that part off. But men, some like nasty men will compare and be like, oh yeah, I'm paying for that too. I'm sure, especially in a setting like that. Correct. In like a big social bar setting or group setting like that, when you're drunk and shit, you never know what comes out of their mouth kind of thing. But she just got around. He.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Casey too. But Joe, too. He was Joe got around with everybody. He'll take whoever. He had zero taste. And he was drunk the whole season. No. What was- I hope he watched him. I wonder. Well, here's the thing. Like right at the reunion, he didn't seem to like be regretful about anything. And they had time to watch the episodes, I think. How do you not watch that and think, God, I'm a gross human being. And I gotta work on myself. Yeah, I need to make some changes. Or do you just think that's funny because you're gross?
SPEAKER_01:He thinks it's funny because he's gross. And then, um, who is the dark hair with glasses? The truck driver, what was his name? Oh, yeah. With Anton. Anton. That is a walking alcoholic if I've ever seen one. I don't think so. Are you kidding me? He was having a couple beers. He got home from night shift and they were wanting to do shots. And he's like, Yeah, I wind down with a few beers every night. Some people have a couple beers. That like adds up to a recipe of alcoholism. Like, if that is his natural habit of coming home every night and having not just one, but like multiple. Like, and the fact that he went through like a 12, I think it was like he went through like a 12-pack of white claws, she had two, and like over not even a weekend. He had one person. 12 white claws? He had one person over in the lobby of their apartment complex. That one friend. Yeah, they could have sat down and each had two or three white claws.
SPEAKER_02:Big deal. I just I don't know. I don't, I don't like how it looked. I think that she tried to paint that picture on him. She I and I did really appreciate when she liked when the mom was like, you know, alcohol, oh blah, blah, blah. And the daughter, Allie, was like, Mom, I drink alcohol. Yeah. You know, so I did really like that.
SPEAKER_01:She was he just kind of came off as like I I thought that they were a good couple. I did like him. I don't think she knew how to be honest.
SPEAKER_02:She was very reserved in a lot of ways. But I like that like she was honest about her flaws. Like, you know, that one when he was like, Is this how you are you messy like this? Is this how you are all the time?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I work full-time, I'm going to school, like this is how I am right now. And I and I totally appreciate that. I just think But he still accepted her.
SPEAKER_02:Like he didn't get pissed off at her about anything. Even when she would get pissy at him about, you know, that stupid friend that nobody knew, making a whatever blanket statement. He never like he just didn't get. I I like that he was even killed. And even for somebody who drinks a lot, he didn't change.
SPEAKER_01:He didn't get he wasn't Joe.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I mean, some people when they drink alcohol, it just changes who they are. They get mean, snaky, or they think they're the life of the party, or they're just not yeah, and he just seemed like fine. And he always loved her and he always accepted her. And I do her point of view, like in the pods, like she did say, like, I want to be a stay-at-home mom. You know, she was very open and transparent. Now, what I think Love is Blind does that is deceiving, is they called him like a transportation logistics something analysis driver.
SPEAKER_01:He's a fucking trucker, and that's okay. That's true.
SPEAKER_02:Truckers make great money, but that is so deceptive.
SPEAKER_01:But she also made it when with her talking to her friends and stuff, she made it seem like it was a his job was a bad thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And I it wasn't bougie enough.
SPEAKER_01:And I don't like that's what I don't like. Yeah, like having something like I I She knew he was a truck driver. We thought he was a logistics, whatever. A job is a job, and if it pays your bills and you're happy, that's all I care about. I don't care what you do, minus being a hooker and you know, all of that stuff. But if you want to sell dit picks, tit picks, whatever to make a little extra money.
SPEAKER_02:You're judging me for if I did that.
SPEAKER_01:If you were a hooker or a prostitute, I would judge you. Okay. Anything else, I really don't. Tit picks and feet picks, you're fine with that. I've thought about selling my feet picks when I need money.
SPEAKER_02:I mean I tell Mackie all the time I'm so lucky that the internet didn't exist when I was his age. Or only fans.
SPEAKER_01:You know, I and I really do think that's true because I still get really awkward. Um, come in!
SPEAKER_02:We're recording.
unknown:What's going on, guys?
SPEAKER_02:Hey, hey. Oh, hey, Mac, you want to come say hi to your old show that I've had to rope Emily into doing because you don't do it?
SPEAKER_01:No, you do do.
SPEAKER_00:I was butt at it last time. What's going on?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because you just sit there and don't talk into the microphone.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's beside the point.
SPEAKER_01:That's beside the point. Can I ask you a question? What? How's your new job?
SPEAKER_00:Um, yeah, it hasn't started yet.
SPEAKER_01:Not his fault. Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00:It should be finished now though, because we when I was at her her work, we did the rest of the thing.
SPEAKER_02:It doesn't matter. We're waiting on them to like paperwork and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, they have to like look.
SPEAKER_02:You have to if we're recording. So if you're gonna be in here and want to talk, you have to talk into the mic. So you in or you out.
SPEAKER_00:I'm in, but like they need to like their system hasn't gone through and looked in or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, like reviewed your paperwork and make sure he's like a US citizen and he's not lying about anything?
SPEAKER_02:I don't think so. I think they have everything. I think it's just the boss is not is on vacation until Saturday, and so it just kind of has delayed some things.
SPEAKER_01:Got it. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Because I think that we've done everything on our end. Or he's done everything on his end. So that's good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_02:He's already spending the money that he hasn't made with ideas of things he wants to buy.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, what are what do you want to buy? Talk in the mic.
SPEAKER_00:I want to buy like a car. Another car.
SPEAKER_01:You have one! I need another one. Why?
unknown:I need another one.
SPEAKER_01:What's wrong with the one that you have?
SPEAKER_00:Nothing's nothing's wrong with it. I just need like a you know, like a cooler car and a faster car.
SPEAKER_01:You're 16, almost 17. You don't need a cooler, faster car until you're older. No, I need yeah, I do need one. It's a good idea. It is the dumbest idea.
SPEAKER_00:Why?
SPEAKER_01:Because you're 17.
SPEAKER_02:Best time. What else do you have to spend your money on?
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. I'd wait until he is a little bit older. He's more likely to get pulled over now.
SPEAKER_02:Doesn't here's my opinion. I feel like if you're gonna buy this kind of stuff, now's the time where you have zero bills. Yes. And also, like that is a good investment because you you can sell it and get your money back and maybe even more.
SPEAKER_01:Cars are not, it depends on the type of car. But car like it are it I mean they're they are not in a lot of cars are not investment pieces.
SPEAKER_02:You're right. Well, this kind of car is.
SPEAKER_01:What are you looking at? Oh, okay. So like I got the mobile.
SPEAKER_00:Micro cars, but the main car is like a 2015 Mustang.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. 2015? I thought you were looking at like an old fox body. Alright, you can't be in here because you're not talking on the mic, so get out.
SPEAKER_00:I can't. But like Yeah, okay. But also, yeah, like I have another one, but I think it's like a year younger than like a couple years younger. I don't know. Some years younger. I don't know when it was made, but like, yeah, mainly a 2015. I think I feel it just what looks like.
SPEAKER_01:You guys are car people. I am not, so I get it. Like, even your father is a car person. I'm so not a car person. I'm like, as long as it takes me to point A to point B, that's not making two moments. I'm not making a profit off of it. I don't I don't think they are investment thing, like things like a you're not gonna get equity off of a car like you would on other things.
SPEAKER_02:I also disagree because my last car I traded it in, and I my payment is I got a newer car with 13 miles on it, and my car payment what and it's uh a hybrid. Yeah, and my car payment was a hundred dollars a month less a hundred dollars less a month.
SPEAKER_01:See, I'm at the point where I would rather not have a car payment at all.
SPEAKER_00:Was it like lower because you had no miles or something? Because what I owed on it and what it was worth put me in the in the green.
SPEAKER_02:She was in the positive. In the positive.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, okay, okay. I see.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, bye. How was your dinner? We didn't have you.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you're waiting for me. Oh, okay. Alright, bye.
SPEAKER_03:Alright, see ya.
SPEAKER_02:Alright. I'm trying. Oh, okay. Kate on Love is Blind reunion. So I uh I really admire her. You don't? Woof! No. Okay, tell me.
SPEAKER_01:She's the blonde one with the really bad weave, right? Weave. Like her hair extension.
SPEAKER_02:She was the one where Patrick told her that he loved her.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, oh, with the bad eyelashes.
SPEAKER_02:No, that's Annie.
SPEAKER_01:Annie, okay.
SPEAKER_02:No, Annie. Kate is the one who didn't have she didn't go to like Mexico or get married. She's the one that cried in the hotel room? No. She so she was the so in the pods, Patrick like picked her. And he told her that he loved her. And she didn't say it back. Okay. And then he ended up choosing Casey.
SPEAKER_01:Casey. Okay, yes.
SPEAKER_02:And then she was calling him out on the reunion because she's like, I don't understand how you told me you loved me, and then you chose to do it. I see I'm so bad at these names. Um anyway, so I just like her gen, she's like a genuine. Like, I feel like a lot of those girls, like, oh, he loves me. I love you too. Let's get married.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I think it's great that she's honest because I do think a lot of people that go on that show now go on it to go to Mexico and get the fame and get the whatever, so they'll say whatever it is to get engaged to go on further. And the fact that there were no weddings this time around made me nervous in that. Um, no, Casey and that whole scene drove me nuts when she was like, I could never be attracted to him, but then she wouldn't leave him alone.
SPEAKER_02:She was like kissing him on him, making out and she was like telling him it wasn't that, but then you fucking say it on the show, and the whole world is gonna see it.
SPEAKER_01:What was the other girl's name?
SPEAKER_02:With the other guy, not Nick, the other girl or guy, both the other couple, the black couple?
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm trying to think, like, not Morgan.
SPEAKER_02:Morgan. I don't even remember a Morgan.
SPEAKER_01:Morgan's the curvy girl.
SPEAKER_02:No, that's Madison.
SPEAKER_01:Madison, sorry. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:Can you tell it's been a week? Um, there was Annie and Nick, and she was the one with the bad eyelashes, who owns a salon. And he like in the mouth. He was like AI robots. And Kate even said that to him. She's like, all of your it's like you did chat GPT and was like, what are the best pickup lines to get a wife?
SPEAKER_01:And I was like, bingo. Yes, that is it. That is yes, so Annie is the one that I was like when she was like begging him to stay and stuff like that. I was like, No your worth, and no, no guy is worth talking. Like when he's clearly saying, I don't want this, and don't say yes, you do, have some self-respect for you.
SPEAKER_02:I don't even understand like the disconnect. I feel like they were fine, and then he's like, I want to break up.
SPEAKER_01:Well, she was also royal hammered that one night. Oh, yeah, and she was yeah, she's just a little needy. She's so insecure. Yeah, you can just see it. And I feel bad for women that are like that insecure. Like, what has gone on in your life that makes you that insecure? But I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's tough. I think we've all been there insecurity-wise.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:We're just lucky it hasn't been on TV.
SPEAKER_01:Thank God. Comic-con. Oh, yeah. Twin Cities Comic-Con is this weekend. I'm exhausted even thinking about it. I've never gone. Okay. I don't know any, you know, you're talking to this is my first year going. It is three days Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Um does everybody go all the days, or you just pick what you want? Um, I mean, you we bought the VIP package for all three days. So it was like 160 bucks per person, so it was not that not that bad. Um, and so tomorrow we're getting there. I think the doors open at like noon from like noon to seven.
SPEAKER_02:Not super early.
SPEAKER_01:Not super early. Um, and then we're not meeting anybody tomorrow. So tomorrow will be like the day to shop, and like, because they have Sam has said like if you see something, grab it. It's not gonna be there later. It's not like the state fair where you can come back and they have multiples or whatever. It's you see it, you grab it kind of thing. Um, so we'll do that. And then on Saturday, we have to get there right at 10 because we're meeting Brendan Frazier right at 10.
SPEAKER_02:So we are what time do you have to get there and get in line?
SPEAKER_01:Probably ours is like a designated media uh like time photo time. Oh, nice. Yeah. So like we paid for, so we paid for like a group photo. So all four of us are splitting, so it'll be all four of us in one photo and we're all we're splitting the cost. Um, and then so we are and to our listeners, if you want a paid photo up with us, we gotcha. Hey.
unknown:Hello.
SPEAKER_02:Just schedule a day in time, we'll do a photo.
SPEAKER_01:I might even put some makeup on for you. Um, I might even wash my hair. Um, and so please pay the lady. Things I'll do for money. Actually, get ready for the day.
SPEAKER_02:Just don't be a prostitute.
SPEAKER_01:I will judge you. Um, so we are dressing up as the Lone Rangers, which is the band from the movie Airheads. So it's from the early 90s. Um, and it's a stupid funny movie. I watched it for the first time a couple weeks ago. So I'm wearing like massively ripped jeans. I have a Lone Rangers t-shirt that I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna put like eyeliner and black eyeshadow and stuff on. I'm gonna crimp my hair. Um, bought a bunch of like bracelets and chokers and earrings um for everybody. And then like we're gonna have like chains for like on our side, like wallet chains or whatever. Um, and then we're gonna wear lanyards that have like a VIP band member, yeah. Um, kind of thing. So we're gonna we're gonna dress up as that. So I mean, I I've never dressed up for anything like this before ever. I'm not a I want to dress up person. Like Renfare is like one thing I'm like, I've never gone.
SPEAKER_02:I think they call it Renfest.
SPEAKER_01:Renfest. Sorry. I was like, see God. There are certain people in my life that are gonna be so disappointed right now. Um, because I'm trying. I know, I know I'm not I'm not judging. My nerdiness. I'm glad that you're funny, not working well. Um, and so I've never gone, and the thought of dressing up in full gear makes me really self-conscious for some reason, and I don't know why. Um, so I've never done that, and so this is my first time ever. And then on Sunday, we are meeting the host of the Nickelodeon show from the 90s, The Legends of the Hidden Temple. Um you're gonna win a pack of nerds. Oh my god, don't even get me started. So I feel so bad for every child that was on that show in the 90s. I discovered that old episodes are on Paramount Plus. So one day I was doing my Legos and I plopped on a couple episodes. I felt so bad for the kids. The prizes were terrible. If you lose out of the first round, here's a pack of nerds. Nerds were like 50 cents in the 90s. Like, what the hell? And it wasn't even like a year's worth or like a hundred packs. One pack. One pack. One pack. And I was like, oh, these prizes are terrible. So we bought um costume, we bought shirts, like contestant shirts off Amazon. Yeah, so Ashley and I are the yellow um monkeys or orange monkeys, yeah, orange and yellow. Yes, I just coming back to me, yes. And Sam and Leah are the green iguanas, I think it is. Yeah. So we're gonna, and I'm just wearing it with jeans. Yeah. So, but we're gonna wear the shirt and then we're gonna do a photo together with him and everything like that. And then the three girls, I'm not meeting her because I had zero desire, and also it was getting to be really expensive. They're meeting Rosario Dawson as well.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, hang on. Is she Letty from Fast and Furious? I think so, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, yes. Um, see, I don't I know much of her stuff, but they are like big. I think she was in Well, tell me if there's anyone there I like. I don't, those are the only names that I know of. I know the Pink Power Ranger is gonna be there, so we're gonna try. Well, Patrick loved the pink power rangers. So we're gonna try and get a picture with her because they'll do like two. I have an idea.
SPEAKER_02:If you want to pay me, I'll get the costume off Amazon and you guys can take a picture with me.
SPEAKER_01:She's not in the costume. Oh, the actress. I'm like, who the fuck can tell? They're in a costume. He loved the actress. Um, he he thought she was very beautiful. Okay. Um of these.
SPEAKER_02:I'll have to Google that.
SPEAKER_01:I some of these people, you can um, like they'll be at tables, like meet and greet tables, and you can pay like 20 bucks to like do a selfie with them or something like that and get an autograph. It's all a money thing. It is such a money grab. I don't I was going through the list and I would feel like I don't know who 95% of these people like being like, oh yeah, you can pay me and get like oh Sam's meeting McFoley. He's the wrestler. Oh, I don't know who that is. So she has a picture from when she was little. Is she gonna get it signed? She was so cool. Yeah, and she wants to like get a picture of her holding it and stuff like that. I'm like, that stuff is really cool. Like, I'm I'm excited for all of that. I think I'm more excited about the shopping. And there are tattoo artists there. So, like when I was in Arizona for Arizona Bike Week, um in one of the big areas inside, they had a huge stage set up, and all these tattoo artists had their own station set up, and you could go up and meet an artist, look at like kind of their designs that they do, and um get like a smaller tattoo or whatever, you know. If they wanted to, if you wanted to do a two-hour tattoo, you could do it there and stuff like that. So they do something similar at Comic-Con. So I think that's the first thing that we're gonna do on Friday. Just check out tattoos is get a tattoo. Oh, do you guys know what you're gonna get? I think at least Sam, Leah, and I, I don't know if Ashley will do this or not, want to get black cats for Patrick.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. I remember you guys talking about that. I think you should all get Pink Power Ranger.
SPEAKER_01:I do not want a pink Power Ranger tattooed on me. I will do a black cat. But I do not want a Pink Power Ranger tattooed on me. I love Patrick and miss him more than life itself, but Or you guys should get little hearts that say Swifty. Oh my god. Or get a cake that says karma is a cake. Yeah. Like you did with the ice cream cake. Or do you get like a pink straw? As long as I get a pink straw, every time I get a pink straw at a bar, I get emotional.
SPEAKER_02:You don't want a tattoo of it? A pink straw.
SPEAKER_01:How would they do that? Like with a cup with full of rumming coke? With a pink straw.
SPEAKER_02:Think about people who get fruit. Fruit is really hard to tattoo because it's so like textured. And like if you draw a picture of it, right, it's very one-dimensional. Correct. So to make it look like very 3D and texture and they're it's hard to tattoo that.
SPEAKER_01:I couldn't even imagine. No. So that's why I just do line work, it's easier.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Now I do want to talk about some politics stuff, but I'm gonna save it for the end because in case people hate listening to that, then they can just shut it off early. Okay. What are you reading? Nothing new. Nothing.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't opened anything new yet. I did you finish the nightingale? Weren't you reading that last time? No, I was reading um I was listed in Charlie Sheen's book. Oh yeah. Did you finish it? No. Okay. No, I must be so good. I have not been. I just am in like a mental funk.
SPEAKER_02:So what are you doing? You watching TV? Rotting, and I hate it. But what do you do when you rot?
SPEAKER_01:Scroll on my phone. Oh, that kind of rot. I hate it. I hate it, but like work has been so insanely much mentally lately, the last couple of weeks, that my brain is just fried by the end of the day that I can't even like focus to read. I tried the other night to read, and I was Like two pages, I'm done. I I just it's just nothing nothing new. I can't even like listen on my drives right now. It's like I just have to have music on because I can't focus my brain. I can't wait to just like done. I I am. I can't wait until I get some ADHD testing. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Do you have that scheduled?
SPEAKER_01:No, because my insurance is changing at the first of the year. To worse? Or you just don't know what's in network? I'm going with the plan where 98% of the provider, it's more expensive, but if it's just for me, it's not that bad. Um that I'm going with the plan that 98% are in network. It's we're going from Medica to Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Minnesota. Um, so my premium is doubling, which I mean it's so you won't have so much like out-of-pocket deductible shit to pay for. Correct. And like I was saying to someone the other day, I was like, it sounds really shitty and spoiled that my premiums haven't been over$60 in over 10 years. And now they're going up. If I do this plan, it's going up to$122. And I'm like, that's really not that much, but like I know a lot of people are having it a lot worse.
SPEAKER_02:Mine, you know, for I pay for me and Mackie, and mine only went up$10. I'm just keeping the same. Nothing's really changed, it's just$10 more. Yeah. Paycheck.
SPEAKER_01:That's normal. I mean, and I know we switched provider carriers because I I have to think because Medico is just gonna like astronomically go up. Go up. And the amount percentage-wise that my employer pays has changed has stayed the same.
SPEAKER_02:So which I think is I'm really when they show us like you pay this and your employer pays that, and then I think about what a big company I work for. Do you know how much money that is? It's a lot. I'm glad I don't have to pay what they pay. They pay way more. And I am very appreciative.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm like, okay, I will pay. I think all in all, between my medical and like all my life insurances and things like that, like some extra disability stuff and that I've included in there, I think my check rate is going up 50, 60 bucks. Your check rate is doctor. It's like 60, 70 bucks, which I don't it's not terrible because it's all pre-taxed. Yeah, you don't even ever it's not like you see it go away. Not really, though. You don't really see a huge difference because I'm not paying for anybody but me. If I was paying for a big family or something, I would notice a big difference.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's nuts. When I was a kid, I feel like insurance was like so good. Like I remember my mom my mom and dad, we had really good insurance. My dad had really good insurance, and so speaking of insurance, today I hate going to the pharmacy. Yep. And Mackie had to refill his meds. So I was like, hey Mac, your meds are ready. Go pick them up at the pharmacy. I'm like, they're gonna, that's gonna be five to ten dollars. Do you need money? He's like, I got it. And I was like, you know what? I am take I am letting this kid be a young grown man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he goes to his orthodontist alone. By himself, yeah. I mean, that's huge. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But anyway, so Mackie's ADHD meds used to be, I used to, at my old job, I paid like 75 bucks a month. Because you only get, you know, it's only a 30-day supply. And now it's five bucks.
SPEAKER_01:That's fantastic.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Like right there is worth it every month.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And like my for any approved generics, it's 10 bucks. And any like higher is five, yeah. Higher generics and stuff like that. I think the most would be like 60 bucks, which I still don't think is that bad. No, and a lot of times my medications are less than the ten dollar.
SPEAKER_02:That's what's nice about being on common generic meds.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02:And birth control pills free. Mine is anyway.
SPEAKER_01:I nope, mine's not because mine's not considered birth control.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, that's considered a hormone. I consider mine an acne med.
SPEAKER_01:I consider mine making my endometriosis not so hellish. Hellish. I like that word. What about your sleep study? I see my sleep specialist next Tuesday. Alright. So we'll see how that goes. Okay. I don't know. I'm just a walking mess. Mentally and physically, I am just a disaster. You're not.
SPEAKER_02:You're not, though.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like I am.
SPEAKER_02:You keep it all, you you're good. They tell this to people a lot, like my blood pressure's gonna be so high. And I'm like, well, clearly you deal with it better than you think because it's great.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I watch a lot of fucking TikTok and then I go to bed.
SPEAKER_02:See? And that's like so I will this happens to me. I'll be like so be like, somebody sent you a TikTok. Somebody sent you a TikTok, and then I don't ever go on TikTok and then I feel bad. Like Mac tonight told me, he's like, oh hey mom, remember that thing I told you you want for Christmas? I sent it to you on TikTok a long time ago. I forgot. And I'm like, well, I don't look at TikTok. So if you don't tell me that you sent me something, I forget.
SPEAKER_01:See, that's why I just like save the videos and text them to you because Sam's the same way. She's like, I don't know, I know, I don't know. And my sister too. So I'm like, you guys are the lucky ones that never got into it. Like, I really didn't know it.
SPEAKER_02:I did, and then I noticed that problem developing really fast. Yeah, but I would rather read or watch TV.
SPEAKER_01:Also have a family. My I think a big part of it is my ADHD, where I get so much enjoyment out of it because it's so short, it's so quick, and like boom, boom, boom.
SPEAKER_02:It is, but then it's been three hours.
SPEAKER_01:But watching TV, you have to I have to fully focus and it's too much on my brain. Like I've still only watched that one episode of the Ed Geek.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, sad. And that's good. Yeah. Like it's not that it's slow.
SPEAKER_01:It it yeah, and but my brain gets so sidetracked so easily. It does not shut off. Like, I my my psychiatrist was like, I can't diagnose you, but I think it's very clear. But in order to give you meds, I was like, Yep, I will go through the testing. I probably have needed to do this my entire life, and I've just lived 37 years without taking care of it. And I just feel like the older I get, the less I want to tolerate it, and the more I want to change some habits that are like physically.
SPEAKER_02:Do you want to be dependent on meds?
SPEAKER_01:I am for some things already.
SPEAKER_02:No, I mean for that. Because I just want to tell you when Mackie first got diagnosed, which funny story, they told us it was gonna be two-day testing for like four hours each day, and they called me after like 45 minutes the first day, and they said, Okay, he's done. And I said, What about tomorrow? And they go, Nope, we don't need that. Yeah, because they knew right away. I and so anyway, they so then when he was when he got diagnosed, he also went to therapy, like to figure out how tools how to manage his ADHD. Because the goal is that by the time you are done with college, you don't need ADHD anymore, meds anymore, because you should know how to manage it.
SPEAKER_01:I've never been able to fully manage it. That is my I've lived my entire life with it, I guarantee you, and I've never fully managed it. And this is coming from someone who goes to therapy all the time. This is like a different kind of like cognitive therapy, right? And like it this I I would like to not be so up and down with my motivations and things like that.
SPEAKER_02:Like, in that is such an ADHD thing of like having Could it be one of the other things that you have that you take meds for?
SPEAKER_01:Or do you feel like because you take meds for it, that doesn't I yeah, my like I can control my anxiety and depression. I can I have worked so hard on my coping skills with all of that, with therapy and psychiatry and everything like that, that I can push myself out of a depressive state pretty quickly. I can control my anxiety. I have like ways of doing that. Like, for example, my old therapist one time had told me, like, try writing down. Cause I was like, my attitude has just been terrible, absolutely awful lately. And she goes, write down three things a day that you're grateful for.
SPEAKER_02:I remember that.
SPEAKER_01:So I started doing it and I noticed a difference, and then I stopped doing it for a little while. And then just a couple weeks ago, I was like, my attitude is fucking terrible again. I need to start writing things down again. And I did, like, I went, I was like, I'm gonna buy myself a little notebook to like, you know, motivate me a little bit more, and it has helped so much again. Like, my attitude is not so bleak all the time or anything like that. Like, those parts of me I feel like I'm very self-aware about. It's the ADHD portion where taking a shower sounds like the biggest chore of my life. When you're like, oh yeah, I was in the shower. I'm like, I have zero desire to fucking shower. But it feels so nice and warm when it's cold out. And I know it's not.
SPEAKER_02:Like I logically know it's not. I do feel like that about shaving. Oftentimes in the wintertime, I'm like, nah, I don't care.
SPEAKER_01:Same. But like just daily life tasks are so hard for my brain to do because in my brain, it is like that is such a big issue. So I'll let shit pile up and pile up. Like I'll let my recycling pile up. That's why you got a cleaning lady. Partially, yes. Because it would, it would really weigh on you. It would. And I would feel so guilty and so shitty and things like that. And I'm like, if this is one thing I can do to help me, and I get I I feel more motivated afterwards. I only do it once a month now.
SPEAKER_02:And that's all you need because you're a single person and they just get all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Every time I do the litter box, I always vacuum it and things like that. Like I'm bit it takes me way longer to build up a lifestyle habit than the average person. Okay. And to change something.
SPEAKER_02:I can see that in McCoy too. So it's making a lot of sense to me because a lot I'll be like, I don't get it. I'll be like, why are you so lazy? Why are you so unmotivated? I wish I was like, why don't you think? You know?
SPEAKER_01:And he's just like, I I I trust like I I you know, I'm like, yeah, should I do these dishes that are standing in the sink? Yep, I should. It's a lot of fucking work in my mind. And then when I do it, it takes me a minute. And like then I get mad at myself, and it's like this whole thing all over. Why did I procrastinate? But then you do it again and again and again. Every time. And I think part of it too is like healing my inner child a little bit because growing up, I always say my mom was like Danny Tanner on steroids. And so for the longest time, like I was like, I'm gonna be a rebel, it's my place. I'm not gonna fucking keep it clean like she did. But I like a clean space, I like a clean house.
SPEAKER_02:It was the same. Like when you just said that, I was like, that was my mom. And guess what? I don't give a fuck because my mom spent her whole life cleaning.
SPEAKER_01:We wouldn't do things on the weekends because my mom was like, I have laundry to do, I have toilets to clean. I'm like, so we can't go to Target for an hour.
SPEAKER_02:No, that was my mom, too. She'd sit down and have a I'd be like, What are you doing? She's like, I'm having a smoke break. And then I'd be like, Well, then I'm gonna have a break. She's like, No, you don't need a break. You don't smoke.
SPEAKER_01:We had chores every day after school and like all of these things.
SPEAKER_02:And as kids should. Which I don't disagree with. I was a Cinderella, but it was it was like, Oh, every night after dinner, Kelly, clear the table, do the dishes.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, before dinner, make sure that all we would have to go around every bedroom, grab the loose hangers, bring them down to the laundry room, vacuum, fold clothes, like everything. And I get it, kids should pitch in. I fully understand that. But the way she went about it was in a very like psychotic controlling way.
SPEAKER_02:My mom would, if she found one dirty dish, she would take them all out and make you rewash all of them.
SPEAKER_01:Which is hilarious. My mom would kind of do that too. But my mom nowadays is terrible at doing dishes. And don't they have a dishwasher? Yes. Yeah, we had a dishwasher too. Do you know how many times she's like hand washed my dishes at like events? Oh, and then I go home and have to re-hand wash it. Oh, I see like the things that you brought to the yeah. Because she's like, Oh, I'll wash it. I'm like, no, I'll bring it home. She's like, no, no, I'll do it. And then she does it, and I'm like, I have to redo it anyway.
SPEAKER_02:Well, at least it's less sturdy. Okay, a couple things. So I just want to talk about these two couple of political things. Um, so I want to talk about number one. Did you hear about the 20-week FMLA? Oh, yeah. Okay.
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SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Do you know how they're paying for it? Mm-hmm. So everybody is getting taxed approximately 40 cents a paycheck.
SPEAKER_01:I would pay 40 cents a paycheck to have a woman be able to stay home for 20 weeks. It's not just women, it's anybody. I mean, it's so Oh, yeah, it's men too. Paternity leave and stuff like that. Yeah. That's that's okay. Here's I think it's amazing. I will pay 40 cents. Yeah. Again, what do you know how much money of our federal taxes actually goes to like SNAP benefits? Not that much. Well, I don't believe in SNAP benefits.
SPEAKER_02:So, and I'm not saying I don't believe in help with food. Like, I think WIC is a really great program. Now I know that WIC, do you know what WIC is? I think that WIC shouldn't just be for kids, right? Pregnant women, nursing women, and kids. Right. And I think that SNAP or or or food stamps or what however you want to look at it, food assistance. When I'm on Amazon and I see what is SNAP qualified, I want to vomit. To me. Because it does not, I just and I a lot of places you can buy cigarettes with Snap, and I that's where I struggle.
SPEAKER_01:Cigarettes and things like that and alcohol, like totally get, but for me, I don't care if they want to buy processed shit. It's none of my business because I buy processed shit. It if if my three dollars out of my federal whatever every paycheck goes to families that are are food insecure in the south or wherever that don't have access to fresh produce at all times.
SPEAKER_02:But you will you just come anyone on Snap in Minnesota can just go to the grocery store or get Amazon and they can get what they're talking about?
SPEAKER_01:Food insecurity is a really big thing.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so where do they go to get their junk?
SPEAKER_01:They will have to like go to Walmart and stuff, but it's but it's not good quality. Well, it's better than Doritos. But if they want Doritos, why can't they have Doritos? They're humans. So do they have zero money for food? If they quali I mean, if they qualify for SNAP benefits. Guess what? I don't want to spend my money on fucking groceries, but I have to. Okay, but they're also working single moms that have three jobs trying to make ends meet, living in a place that does not pay anybody more than five dollars or eight dollars or whatever the minimum wage in that county is an hour. So they're barely making enough to even survive.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Uh do you know anyone who received SNAP or did? Probably I can't remember. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be assistance and help. I'm just saying that I think a big problem with the government is the way it's distributed and how it's distributed.
SPEAKER_01:I personally would rather have my money going to SNAP benefits than funding wars and giving money to other countries for no reason. 100%. And that's but that's what's happening.
SPEAKER_02:So you're doing both. I mean, well, you're not doing because that's cut off. So right now that's but we don't have any say.
SPEAKER_01:But like I don't have any issue in SNAP benefits whatsoever because I want people to eat. I don't give a fuck what they're eating. I want them to eat and not die of starvation or going in and making things worse for their lives by having to rob a place to get food. That is reality. Like I don't think so. It is. As someone who has a public health degree who has done all of the research, I will tell you 100% that is the reality in a lot of areas, in a lot of really rural areas. We are very lucky in Minnesota to not have as much of that. But you go to the southern states, it is awful. Okay. Well, I'm talking about Minnesota. But our SNAP benefits are federal funded.
SPEAKER_02:I know, but I'm just talking about Minnesota. Okay. So I'm not, I mean, yeah, whatever how it's funded and like it comes out of everyone pays for it. I'm just talking about us here. So sorry. No. That's I'm only yeah. So you I said the same thing already.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, like even in Minnesota though, we have small towns and limited access to things. Like, I I would rather them go to bed not hungry than I I don't care. It's not my fucking business what they do with it. I don't agree with the cigarettes, I don't agree, you know, there's things like that. Fully don't agree. I don't like cigarettes in general. Like, yeah, totally get that. But at the end of the day, if like 1% of my federal taxes, every paycheck, are going to SNAP benefits, it's not my fucking business who what they get from it. As long as they're fed and they're not going to bed hungry, I don't care. It's not my business to judge. I'm not sure if I hit a passionate subject. I'm not in the business to judge what other people do because if someone Unless you're a prostitute. That is a whole different ballgame where STDs and all that's. I'm trying to make it light because you're getting heavy. It is very as a public health person, like that is my one of my biggest passions in life. And like what is pissing me off the most is these billionaires and millionaires sitting up there with their fucking Rolex watches and their Jaguars are making fucking decisions for people who don't have two pennies to rub together. They have no idea what it's like to be poor. They have no idea what it's like to only have 25 cents in their account and what the fuck am I gonna do because I have no food at home. That's happened to me. When I lived at my apartment in Coon Rapids, there was one time I had like a dollar to my name, and I remember being like, okay, I have spaghetti noodles and parmesan cheese. What the fuck am I gonna do? That was what I ate for two days because that's all I had.
SPEAKER_02:Did you maybe make some other bad decisions of why you did couldn't pay for a couple of meals?
SPEAKER_01:I was definitely living out of my means in that way, but there are people that don't do that. There are people that literally have money for rent and a child, and that's it.
SPEAKER_02:I do agree with that statement. Once again, one of my problems with it is that it's not distributed properly and it's doesn't have enough guidelines on it. So I I wish I could get so I've known people who have SNAP benefits. The amount of money they get a month, it's like$800. That's a lot I don't need. Not my problem. That's a choice.
SPEAKER_01:Not all the time.
SPEAKER_02:Not all the time. How much percent of the time do you think it's a choice? People who have 10 kids. I see it. People who have four, I I I think this is I think four plus kids is a lot. I don't know how people afford that, house them, clothe them.
SPEAKER_01:I could get into a whole other topic topic about it because I think about, you know, I think about abortion and how many women are forced now to carry babies that they were raped and they it was a raped baby that they didn't want. And here's the thing with that is you're pro-life until the baby comes out of the womb and you're like, oh, we're not taking care of the baby anymore. They didn't want that kid, they wanted to abort it, but your state told them they couldn't. So now they're stuck with this child, and then shit like that happens. Why don't they adopt their baby out? Do you know how expensive adoption is? Not if you're the adopter outer. Yes, it is. Even if I but do you know what it do you know the foster system and how fucked up the foster system? No, but I'm talking about babies. People want babies. Do you know how many babies are still in the foster system right now? Like a lot. There are the the adoption system is not an easy here's my kid, someone's gonna take it. That's that's not what it is. It's you put them up for adoption, they go into a foster system, or you put them up for adoption, you give them a family. The family has to pay a fucking hundred grand in all these fucking fees to get a goddamn child, which I think is robbery.
SPEAKER_02:Probably the process needs to be revised.
SPEAKER_01:The whole thing does. Yeah. Again, it's not as easy as just saying I'm gonna give my baby up for adoption. No, I understand that you know what it's like to have a child and the emotions and things like that it brings out of you. Did I want this child? No. Am I going to look at my child a certain way because I was it was brought into this world based off of rape? Maybe. That's a fucking psychological toll on someone too. So I or incest. Like, do you know how fucking much medical issues an incest baby comes with?
SPEAKER_02:So this is where I want to circle back real quick because we got 10 minutes and I still have one more topic I want to brush on. Okay. In okay, so number one, do you know how many health issues? That's because these people are getting free money for Doritos and ramen noodles, and now they've got a that stuff's not good for anyone's brain. It causes cancer, it causes obesity, which causes diabetes, which causes high blood pressure. So that there's my uh my circle back on the on the snap and why I think that if you're gonna be given benefits, it should be beneficial food. So you not that's gonna cost everyone more money in the long run.
SPEAKER_01:I am fortunate enough to make a living wage. I deserve to eat Doritos, but someone who is not fortunate enough to make a living wage does not deserve to eat Doritos. Yeah. So it's okay for me to become obese and have diabetes because I choose to eat that shitty stuff, but it's not okay for someone who cannot afford to make a living wage. Yes, because that's fucked up. That is your choose.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, number one, you chose your path. So did you? Okay, all right, let's spin it this way. Should everyone get to go on a lavish vacation, whether that they could work or couldn't work, or deserve this, or that's the same thing as have eaten a bag of Doritos.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not comparing the same thing. Nobody needs Doritos, nobody needs a vacation. I don't give a fuck what they buy. They need to eat. Like, I think you need to understand a little bit more of how difficult these situations are, these families that are in like they work their ass off. Think about right now, the people who are furloughed from the government because it is shut down, they would need snap benefits for a little while because they're not making any money. They have busted their ass to work where they're working, but so but because the government shut down, you're saying they don't deserve if they needed SNAP benefits and they qualified for it for whatever reason, they wouldn't deserve to eat Doritos or anything like that. Yeah, Doritos are not a necessity.
SPEAKER_02:I don't that I I wholeheartedly disagree with that. And I honestly don't even think Doritos are really a food. I mean that's what I'm saying. I just want people to be healthier. Like I think I I understand where you're coming from, and I'm not saying I'm 100% right or this is 100% the way it should be. I'm just saying I think things need to be re-looked at. And um, now I totally lost my train of thought. I'm not trying to make you mad, and I'm not saying you don't deserve Doritos. I'm just saying I think the way that maybe some changes could be made is everybody needs to look at how they're eating. And I feel like if we could help people, because even okay, you and me, we make decent money. We we can take care of ourselves, we don't get assistance for anything. And um my brain sucks.
SPEAKER_01:Do I agree that the the culture of food in this country is a shit show apsafucking lutely? And we Oh, so what I was saying is it is way more expensive to eat healthy than to eat junk.
SPEAKER_02:I I totally agree that that is back to your box of spaghetti noodles and parmesan cheese. I mean, I there was a time in my life where I ate ramen because that was really cheap. Not that I couldn't afford better or whatever, but it was just what do I want to spend my money on. Right. So I don't think it's fair that people, even like us, like let's be real, maybe it's some jealousy. I don't like the fact that I see somebody doing right, and this is this is super judgmental because I don't know everyone's story 100%. But I see a lot of what looks like different choices being made, but the person who maybe didn't make a smarter choice is getting rewarded.
SPEAKER_01:That's I look at it completely different. I don't see it like that. That's a better person than me. I don't see it that way. I I really don't, but I I I I I don't know how to explain why I don't look at it that way. I just I'm not here to judge anybody. Their story is their story, and if my four dollars every other every paycheck or whatever can help them live a life, great. I will gladly do that. I it's not my business. I I genuinely don't care what other people do. It it's not my monkey, not my circus.
SPEAKER_02:I I I even though you're contributing to it.
SPEAKER_01:Don't matter. I don't want to contribute to what I'm contributing right now, but I have no choice. So yeah, see?
SPEAKER_02:I would rather we need to be able to elect. Like, okay, you have to pick four things that your taxes go to. What do you want to choose?
SPEAKER_01:I would rather people that need food.
SPEAKER_02:I'm saying like the war situation. If nobody picks that, and I'm not saying that's right or wrong, I don't know anything about it, but you know, let's say oh well, out of the three categories we offered, only two got enough funding because it was pretty split. Well, then let's figure out, you know. I'm just saying that's what Congress is supposed to do. Supposed to do. I don't know what they're doing. They just sit there and say, we don't agree, so there's still not going to be any benefits. Yep. So right, that's a whole nother problem. So I didn't mean to go so deep on that. I just thought I, you know, and I'm not saying like you should and you shouldn't. I'm just saying I think that a lot of our systems need to be re-looked at. I'm not saying that's an easy thing to do or not do. And right, there's room for improvement in in everyone's life and everyone's choices and probably everything going on in the world.
SPEAKER_01:I guess part of it too is I look at the families that I see and the patients that I see. And a lot of those families benefit from SNAP and other benefits like that because one of their parents can't work full-time because they are their full-time caregiver, because they chose to have a child, but they were given a child with an extremely rare disease or whatever the case may be. That wasn't their choice. They wanted a happy, healthy baby. They are living a life that they did not choose, but they also still need to put food on the table and they still need to feed their family and keep a roof over their head. I look at it that way of like, okay, let me help you. How can I help you? I I genuinely don't have it in me to give a flying fuck about what people do behind closed doors because you don't know what's going on.
SPEAKER_02:What about what they do in front of the public?
SPEAKER_01:I think there's a lot of people out there that just are really inappropriate behavior and just act stupid and and make bad choices. Like I fully but that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not saying I can't judge anyone what they do at home. And I and I don't care people do at home. It is what I see in public that makes me question society. I guess I don't go out in public that much anymore. I don't go into stores, I do drive up for a lot of things. I mean, but just driving down the road, I see a lot of questionable things and in parking lots.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I guess I'm used to it. I've worked in downtown Minneapolis and St. Paul for a long time. I've seen it all. Like, I don't know. I just genuinely, in my brain, don't have it in me. I can barely care for myself some days that I don't have the energy to stress about what other people are doing because again, you don't know what they're going through. People hide things really fucking well.
SPEAKER_02:If everyone in this country put one cent in my Venmo, I would be a millionaire. You'd be more than that. So what I'm saying is paying taxes for everybody and not caring what they do about it.
SPEAKER_01:Like it's not for me to judge. That's I just I it's not for me to judge. I might just so you know, every time I say you be judgy, I'm calling your ass out. That's fine. But for me, it's not it's not for me to judge.
SPEAKER_02:Call me out on it. You know, well, that's one of the things I really appreciate about our friendship is we can be on pretty I can like, okay, I kind of see where you're coming from, but like I still like don't want to sway all that way. But I'm not saying you respect my opinion, but like we can still be friends and talk and talk, and that's what I love talking to.
SPEAKER_01:You can feel how you want to feel and you should. And I'm glad you don't back down. For me, it's what I'm educated in, what I'm experienced in. Like, I can't let I don't forget any of that. And and it, this is a whole area that I constantly, when I'm doom scrolling and shit like that, it's I'm researching all of this kind of shit. And why is this going on? And why is it this way? And why haven't we sworn in this um House of Representative from Arizona? Oh, because she'd be the 218th person to release the Epstein files. So Mike Johnson's like, we're not doing that.
SPEAKER_02:So I just think it's to the point where we also nobody under 100% understands like what happens. We only see what the media lets us see or what the internet lets us see. So I agree. All right, that's a wrap on today's episode of On Our Best Behavior.
SPEAKER_01:We covered love is blind, politics, snap benefits, basically all the things your mom told you to never bring up at the dinner table. And somehow we're still friends. Miracles do happen. We may not agree on everything, but we do agree on that love and snacks conquer all. Maybe wine too.
SPEAKER_02:Thanks for hanging out with us today. Go re-watch Love is Blind or argue about something weird with your friends in a loving way, of course.
SPEAKER_01:We'll see you next time, probably still, on our worst behavior. Bye. Bye.
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