On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 16-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
Navigating Life's Chaos
Ever wondered what happens when two brutally honest friends with different viewpoints tackle everything from helicopter parenting to grief? Kelli welcomes Emily for a conversation that pulls zero punches while showcasing the beauty of friendship across perspectives.
The duo starts by calling out the alarming trend of twenty-somethings who still have their parents make doctor appointments and call in sick to work for them. As healthcare professionals, they share jaw-dropping stories of adult patients who look to mom before answering basic medical questions. "Cut the cord, stop enabling them," Emily declares, as Kelli recounts how she's fostering independence in her teenage son by having him handle his own medical appointments.
Their frustration extends to America's healthcare and insurance systems, which they colorfully describe as "the biggest fucking scam." From delayed cancer diagnoses to astronomical car insurance rates for teenage drivers, they highlight how these systems fail ordinary people while padding corporate profits.
In a refreshingly frank discussion about female sexuality, they challenge misconceptions about women's desire. "If you want your woman to want you, you gotta preheat the oven," Kelli explains, highlighting how emotional connection and non-sexual intimacy serve as essential foreplay for most women. Their candid advice offers a roadmap for healthier relationships and more fulfilling intimacy.
The conversation takes a poignant turn when Emily reflects on the one-year anniversary of her friend Patrick's death. "Grief is never linear for anybody," she shares, describing how emotions can blindside you when least expected. Their nuanced take on public grieving reveals a compassionate understanding that each person's grief journey looks different.
Between weighty topics, they share hilarious stories from their epic 12-hour adventure at the State Fair, complete with unexpected friendships with vendors and traditions honoring loved ones. Their ability to move between profound emotional depth and lighthearted humor showcases the podcast's unique appeal.
Ready for unfiltered conversation that makes you think, laugh, and maybe shed a tear? Subscribe now and join us next week when Maccoy brings his wild energy to the show!
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Welcome back to On Our Best Behavior, the podcast where we try to sound like responsible adults but deep down we're just two raccoons fighting over a bag of chips. I'm your host, Kelly, and today my guest is Emily. Emily is that friend who says I don't need Google, my brain is an encyclopedia, and then confidently tells you the capital of Canada is Toronto. She's fun, she's fearless and she's probably going to say something today that makes me question why you even invited her. Let's do this, Emily. Let's do it.
Speaker 2:I really don't know what the capital of. Is it Vancouver for Canada? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you told me it was not.
Speaker 2:It's not Toronto, but if you would not, it must be. I don't know. If you told me it was, I'd be like okay.
Speaker 1:I should know Now, when you're on, who Wants to Be a Millionaire. And they ask that question.
Speaker 2:I know it's not Toronto. Yeah. Process of elimination the 50-50. Yes, if it leads me with Toronto and another answer.
Speaker 1:then I know what the other answer is Is If it leaves me with Toronto and another answer then I know what the other answer is.
Speaker 2:Is that even on TV anymore? Yes, it is. Yes, it's like a 4 o'clock old people show. It's like dinner time for grandparents. I love trivia. I know my dad tried out for who Wants to Be a Millionaire one time, oh, he did. He kept trying to call to get on and he made it to second rounds one time.
Speaker 1:That's cool, but yeah, that was. Do you know anyone who's ever been the phone-a-friend?
Speaker 2:No, uh-uh, me either no.
Speaker 1:And I, honestly, I don't even answer my phone if I don't know the call, If I don't even have it saved in my contacts it just goes to voicemail.
Speaker 2:I ain't answering it.
Speaker 1:It doesn't even tell me that someone's calling me Same poor doctor's offices.
Speaker 2:They don't want to talk to you anyway.
Speaker 1:Well, that's true, they don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 2:I don't want to talk to them. You don't want to talk to them. That's why they have my chart. Yeah, just send me a message in my chart.
Speaker 1:Like, just stop trying to play in photo take. Yeah, I don't want to hear what you have to say. Just send me a message. I would rather need to learn how to read. No kidding, I'm really kind of scared, for we were talking about this generation, people who are like 20, 25 right now, and how like they will call in sick to work because they need a wellness day and sometimes they'll still have their mom call in sick for them.
Speaker 2:Yep, Like I am the boss that, okay, you need a mental health day. I get it. Yeah, I get that. I need a mental health day too. Okay, go for it. Be honest with me and tell me If someone's mother ever calls me or texts me and is like they're not coming in today. No, you're done. You're done Like grow up. We are all adults here, year no B1. And the parents that still call to schedule their doctor's appointments for a fully capable adult at 25 years old, or trying to get test results or something like that, and it's like legally they can't say anything if there's nothing signed. So stop trying to baby your adult.
Speaker 1:Cut the cord, stop enabling them. Oh my, get them off the titty. Yes, it happens all the time this generation the 23-year-old will come in and then they're like my mom's going to come with. Is that okay? Sure, and then I'll be like what brings you?
Speaker 2:in today. I would have been mortified if my mother came to a pap smear at 23 years old or it's like you know, a burp. Whatever Doesn't matter, I would be mortified if my mother went to the doctor with me at that age.
Speaker 1:And then I'll be like what brings you in today and they'll look at their mom and they're 23, 24, 26.
Speaker 2:Men are like that too. They'll look at their wife. Why am I here? I don't see men thankfully. Thankfully you don't.
Speaker 1:It just floors me. And then I'll start to ask them questions like are you sexually active? And then I'll start to ask them questions like are you sexually active? And they'll be like, no, have you ever had sex? And then they'll look at me like, oh, not in front of my mom. What do you think I'm going to ask? You're at the OBGYN for crying out loud oh my God, psa, if you're bleeding abnormally, we are questioning chlamydia, everything, chlamydia, everything. Chlamydia is the number one thing. With abnormal bleeding, you're going to get tested for chlamydia.
Speaker 2:So if you ever had sex, even if it was, five years ago.
Speaker 1:Maybe you've had chlamydia for five years.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And you just didn't know. So everyone you know the world wants to be like. I advocate for myself, then advocate for yourself.
Speaker 2:Then do it and stop having your mommy come into the room with you or like I just can't. I have a friend where she's constantly like I have to make this appointment for my husband, I have to tell the provider ahead of time this thing, because I know he won't say it and this, that and the other stuff, and I'm like there's no way I would do that. You are a grown ass adult that is almost 40 years old. Get your crap together. You should be able to be honest with a provider, no matter what, especially when you've been seeing for 10, 15 years. Come on, you are a grown adult. It drives me bonkers. I'm so glad I work with patients that, like their parents, have to be involved in their care.
Speaker 2:They're nonverbal a lot of the time and like the parents are the good advocate for them and like know their child and you know that's the interest in not being like I don't know. I don't know, I can't do it, I cannot do it.
Speaker 1:Mackie, when he went in for his 16-year-old well child check, I said here's the deal I'm staying in the lobby, yep, you can go back there by yourself. You can fill out your paperwork by yourself. It's confidential. You answer these questions honestly, how you feel, yep, and if you need me, I'm. It's confidential. You answer these questions honestly, how you feel, yep, and if you need me, I'm out here. Yep, and Prestrolo, sure shit comes out and I'm like is everything okay? Yeah, and I don't know. He just had like a few questions. Sure, for whatever he's like I'm not worried, but I just want to let you know.
Speaker 2:He's 16. He's got to start somewhere.
Speaker 1:That's the thing Like. If you send your child in there at 16, like time to be an adult. It's easier to be an adult at 23 than if you've never had to do it, and it's also easier now for them to call you, like okay.
Speaker 2:He said this at 16 years old, when legally they have to talk to you still, and not the second he turns 18.
Speaker 1:In women's health? That's not true, because a lot of times I'll say is this your phone number? You know, if we need to call you with any test results, is this your phone number that you want us to call you at? And a lot of times the mom will then pipe in and say call my phone number. And then I'm like are you okay with me telling your mom everything that happens?
Speaker 2:at your appointment today. So it's different than family practice Once you're 12.
Speaker 1:Yep, you are an adult. Interesting because reproductive health yeah, starts at such a young age yep and even things with like depression and mental health, and a lot of times like menstruation and mental health overlap a lot and so it they have to.
Speaker 2:I guess that, yeah, I didn't, but parents get very upset, but we're all entitled to our privacy and we can't control what the rules are, and like the the facts of the matter, of the whole situation, like for hippo loss, we can't control those. We have no control over that. And I'm sorry, if I break a hippo law, I lose job. Depending on the level of it, it's immediate fire, like there are no people, no grace, there is no grace period for that either. You are royally effed Like you have to follow that to a T and like you are being monitored by that stuff. It is scary and like when people just get so frustrated, it like not my problem, I can't do anything about it. And I need you to understand that your partner did not sign a form they've declined, because I know every time I go to the doctor they're like do you want to add anybody on? And I'm like, no, no one else is gonna know my business, but that's their problem, so don't get mad at me. No, when it's their problem, I just straight up.
Speaker 1:Tell people like it, it's the law. Yep, you can be mad, it's not going to change the outcome. So, yep, have a nice day. Bye, god, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord's at when I used to have to call people about narcotics and they would get so mad because they'd want more narcotics. I would just say it, I rules. I'd be like you can be mad at me, you can yell at me, you can swear. I hope that makes you feel better. Yep, but I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 2:Yep, and I can't write your prescription, nope, so sure you can come in and be seen or get no narcotics. Yep, have a nice day, have a good day. Oh god, health care. I get that the health care in this country is messed up in a lot of ways. There's a lot of things that I wish were different, and I don't think it should take 800 years of workup to try and figure out that someone has cancer.
Speaker 2:I look at what Patrick went through. First and foremost. He couldn't move his left arm for a year and a half before they were like, oh, maybe we should get an MRI. And then they scheduled it wrong and they needed it. He needed it with sedation and all of these things. We could have caught his cancer a lot earlier if they would have done something about it. The second he started having symptoms and not just being like, oh, go to the chiropractor, go to physical therapies. Like I physically can't move my arm, do you want me? Oh, it's just, it's, it's muscle, it's muscle like shit, like that pisses me off. I don't like that. My brain goes to worst case scenario in any situation, but I've seen enough where it is worst case scenario. That like yes, I understand, insurance requires x, y and z, but even then, like insurance companies are just for profit and it's complete we utter.
Speaker 1:We were just talking about even car insurance. Yep, even car insurance Every insurance.
Speaker 2:I think insurance is the biggest fucking scam.
Speaker 1:Oh it is. That's why they're all rich.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is so gross. It is so gross the amount of money I have spent in my 20 years of driving on car insurance that I've never had to use Ever On car insurance that I've never had to use ever. Psa if you have a 16 year old who just got a driver's license.
Speaker 1:Who's a boy and is on the be on is on the honor on a roll. Still going to cost you $800 every six months to add them on $100 a year.
Speaker 2:That's more than my rent.
Speaker 1:He could buy a new not a new whip, but he could buy a beater in a couple years with just insurance money yes, I think my insurance when I was a kid. Granted this was back in the dinosaur ages but it was like $80. I think mine was very low too.
Speaker 2:I mean, I drove a 94 Saturn with pop-up headlights. I did not drive a nice car, I love that and it had the automatic seatbelt thing on the door.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, I remember that. Yes, that was fancy.
Speaker 2:And it was just the bottom buckle yes, Couldn't fit anybody in it and it had a broken head gasket, a cracked head gasket that my dad didn't realize when he picked it out for me. And then I went to go get its first oil change and the guy was like did you know this? That's a huge thing.
Speaker 2:I still drove it around for a year, just putting oil in it when I needed to, had it, you know, parked it in the garage, like you know. It got me to and from, but that was like 50, 60 bucks a month and then I went after that to a 2005. After that to a 2005. This was in 2007 or 8. I bought a 2005 2006 dodge stratus loved that car.
Speaker 2:I remember that car. I missed that car. I loved that car, loved that car. Um, and my insurance only went up to like 130 a month, like and this is a young, brand new driver with a brand new spanking vehicle when you had insurance.
Speaker 1:Is this after you were driving around without it?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, when you decided to adult up, hey then that's when I was in my 20s and I was like I want to go out drinking and I don't want to pay for this insurance. Like I still think insurance is a scam, do I pay it every month? Yes, is it one of the bills that I hate to pay? Yes, abso-fucking-lutely, I can't stand it. It is gross, so gross. Yes.
Speaker 1:I don't my insurance. I pay like $140 a month and to add Mackie it's like three something now.
Speaker 2:And that's a brand new vehicle too, like you have a brand new vehicle. So how I have a clean ass record.
Speaker 1:Yes, the only thing I have on my record. Yeah, so I was a little pissed about this because I've never had a ticket.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a seatbelt ticket at age 17, which should have been off your record after like seven years. Five to seven years, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think I didn't get. No, I don't even have a speeding ticket. I had. I went through a stop sign.
Speaker 2:I rolled through a stop sign at 17. I got a ticket.
Speaker 1:I got pulled over at 17 for speeding, but I didn't get a ticket. Yeah, 18 the only thing. So then when? So I recently changed my insurance, yep, yep, and they said I'm like, I have a clean my, my insurance my record is totally clean and they're like oh, we see, you have a claim five years ago. From what? From somebody driving my car and backing into somebody and that dinged my insurance.
Speaker 2:What uh-huh? Oh, no, yeah oh no, I'm waiting because I had that little scrape at the in the parking ramp at work.
Speaker 1:That's right. It was just a paint scrape, I felt but you know they were like oh, that's gonna be six thousand dollars.
Speaker 2:I'm waiting for how much it's gonna. You know how much it's gonna go up in november. I'll find out when my insurance gets renewed. But even when I talked to the guy, he was like you know, tell me what happened. And I was like it's just a light paint scrape. He's like, yep, that's what the person said too. I was like I just feel bad, you know, and all these things.
Speaker 1:Thank you for being honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was like and I'm not going to get my car fixed, like my car's eight years old, like I'm not worried about it, you know, whatever, let it have any dinking crack, I don't care, and I know that little scrape. It's going to cost so much money to get fixed, month after month after month after month. Adulting sucks, super sucks.
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Speaker 1:All right, we're going to talk about Charlie Kirk, okay, so one of my favorite things about our friendship is that we are. I would like to think that we are both very open-minded, and we don't always probably even mostly agree politically or opinions in general, but we're really good at listening to each other and playing devil's advocate, and so I feel like on this topic we don't necessarily agree 100%, but we can understand where the other person is coming from.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so I know that you have had a hard time with not necessarily the hypocrisy of the situation is what I have a hard time with it.
Speaker 2:It took for him to die and what I. I don't think political violence is right in any way, shape or form, no matter what side of the aisle, percent, no matter what you believe in, I don't think political violence is the way to go. Any violence, any violence, any violence, any violence. School shootings, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, one thing. There's one exception I do believe in violence if you are young and being bullied in school, can I?
Speaker 2:punch a kid a little. Punch a kid a little If you need to hit a bitch. To say like don't fuck with me.
Speaker 1:Just to like pecking order. Set the boundary. Yeah, that's a set, a boundary thing, and it's okay when you're a kid, because you're not.
Speaker 2:But there's no consequence. As an adult, you're going to go to jail. Yes, as an adult, as you should Correct yeah, everyone's normal when you're a kid, you've got to punch a kid.
Speaker 2:So I hate to say not tolerating that violence, especially gun violence, to me is the scariest. I am not against guns in any way, shape or form, and you're super liberal, so that's correct. I am not against guns in any way, shape or form. I don't want guns to be taken away from people. I think there needs to be some sort of and I'm not the answer of what needs to change, but something needs to change because they should not have access to these guns and assault rifles. That, literally, a kid got a piece of a bullet in his carotid. It shattered so much that a kid, however many feet away, got a piece of a bullet in his carotid artery.
Speaker 1:Are we talking about the Minneapolis situation, yeah.
Speaker 2:Now he has to have major surgery in his carotid artery at nine years old because a shrapnel of a bullet. Those are war guns. In my world there's no. In my world there is no other purpose for them except for war, because when you're in war your intention is to kill. They should not have civilian access. Devil's advocate.
Speaker 1:If you own a gun for any reason, the only reason you should have it for is because, if you're going to use it, you shoot to kill, not to hurt. I and I, my my perspective is I don't want to just go to some school and shoot kids fuck, no right. But I want to be able to protect myself and my family, so that's where I will shoot. If I'm going to pull out my gun, it's not to threaten you, it's not to shoot you in the kneecap to slow you down. I'm going to shoot you to kill you.
Speaker 1:And that's where you don't kill me or my family, or my friends and I, or even somebody at the gas station who is maybe? Their life isn't at risk.
Speaker 2:And I can totally see that, respect that and understand that that's not what I would be comfortable with. But I'm also not comfortable touching a gun. Yeah, I've had a gun pointed at me for no reason, forgot about that, so I can't touch. I physically cannot touch guns. Since that incident I physically cannot touch a gun. I am not comfortable with it. I never I don't know if I ever will be Again I physically can't touch it and so for me my thought process is not to kill. I can respect and understand and see where you're coming from. You have a whole house to defend. You have a partner, you have a son, you have everything you have yourself to defend. Like I totally get that, so do you? You have yourself to defend.
Speaker 1:I guess I don't put myself in that high regard because you have had situations where you have felt unsafe in your house, yes, and you have had situations where you have felt unsafe in your house, yes, and you have questioned, yes, getting some kind of home defense.
Speaker 2:Now, I'm not saying that that's a firearm, or something else, but, yes, the question has come across my mind a few times. I'm not there yet because I'm still not comfortable, which I think is a very smart decision.
Speaker 1:Like you, need to be able to be comfortable, and I'm not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not any and I, prior to that incident, when I had that gun pointed at me at a stoplight for no reason whatsoever, I was comfortable. I would go to shooting ranges with my ex-boyfriend. I shot everything with my ex-boyfriend. You name it from start to finish.
Speaker 1:It's not like you've never touched a gun, rifles, ars rifles, revolvers, you name it.
Speaker 2:I shot it for years and like even I went to the range with Patrick, you know, a few times and I've shot a lot of his stuff. But there was something that changed in me and I'm like this should not be the reality that people are facing. I should not be sitting at a stoplight with my windows down in the middle of summer, listening to music, going home from work and having a car next to me hooting and hollering at me, trying to get my attention and I'm not paying attention to them because I don't need to and they get louder and I turn over and you have a gun pointed at me and then I sit there and look. My life is flashed before my eyes and I'm just waiting to see the bullet Sidebar, the bullet sidebar my face.
Speaker 1:This often crosses my mind. Especially this happened to 2020 era one yep 2021, and can you? So here's my thing. Like I always ask, like would you rather like be sick and know you're gonna die, or just be like living life and you die okay, like that's what happened to charlie kirk?
Speaker 2:right, he didn't know he was gonna die he just died.
Speaker 1:Yep, I'd rather know what's coming. So I can't even imagine just driving down the road and then boom. Then what then? Where then the the.
Speaker 2:I don't remember driving home that night for the most part I remember I stopped at target because I knew I'm not where I need to be. I remember buying like 150 worth of shit at target. That I I just I remember vaguely that and I remember coming home and being like, what did I just witness? And I mean I can't imagine the trauma Charlie Kirk's kids are going to go through for the rest of their lives, especially their three-year-old.
Speaker 1:Anyone who witnessed that, Anyone?
Speaker 2:his wife anybody. There's things online of how his wife is grieving and things like that and how she's put on a show and done all these social media things with his casket and his body and stuff like that and it's like okay, now I'm gonna branch off of that yeah.
Speaker 1:So this is where I like I have watched a lot of charlie kirk this is where we're gonna disagree and I do feel like he is a very logical with his points. Like, I think a lot of people are emotional and a lot, lot of people, when they come up to talk to him, they're emotional about being transgender or being whatever their situation is and he'll just be logical about it and for me the logic is hard to ignore.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that I don't support this or that. I'm just saying the logic is hard to disagree on. Saying that I don't support this or that, I'm just saying the logic is hard to disagree on. But when I saw his wife speaking about his death, I felt like this is my own opinion and I don't work for the Tonight Show, so nobody can fire me.
Speaker 2:That's a whole other topic.
Speaker 1:But I felt like she was using the church yep as a crutch, yep as a platform, and a platform like if you don't have a church, now's the time to find a church. Okay, then she felt. Then she was threatening people. She was in, she has a agenda, she had an agenda.
Speaker 2:She's glam. She had an agenda.
Speaker 1:She's going to get revenge. That's not a Christian. Nope, that is not a Christian. The podcast is going to go on. Whatever fucking show they have scheduled in December is going to go on. Yep, no, all of that that you just hypocrisy.
Speaker 2:Yep, exactly, boom Right there. I completely agree, I completely. She had full glam she. It was so stage and everything. She had so much makeup on. So much makeup Nails I don't even know what she looks like. Did you see the picture of her hand over his body and like, well, manicured nails.
Speaker 1:I did not see his body.
Speaker 2:It was just like his hand or arm or something like that in a casket, but like well manicured nails. You know damn well she just got those nails done. It was such a publicity stunt. It was done in such poor taste. I thought it was gross.
Speaker 1:Everyone grieves different. I will give you that. And I have talked about this over and over again.
Speaker 2:Angry before sad 100% as someone who is on a grief journey for the very first time this past year. Everybody grieves different. You don't know what day to day is going to look like, but I think I can confidently say 95 of women who saw their husband die the way that he died would not be wanting to stand on a podium, at a podium in full glam, 24 hours later saying what she was saying I can understand being angry and wanting to get up on that podium and just kind of being numb, but look human and not look.
Speaker 1:And she did seem like she wanted to break down a couple of times and reel it in Sure. But this is where I just struggle with organized religion?
Speaker 2:Yep, I do too, and you know I, I didn't like Charlie Kirk, I didn't like the things he said, didn't like you know him saying that you know and these are quote, unquote because I can't remember the exact quotes but he you know it's like one out of five women have been sexually assaulted and he's like that's a lie. That's not true. He has been on tape saying that he thinks that's a lie. It's way less than that and I'm like I disagree with that, I do disagree with.
Speaker 2:I disagree with that. He thinks that martin luther king jr and that whole thing was bullshit and all these things. And then he said something about the civil war should have never happened. And there was a lot of things that I have heard him.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of opinion. I haven't seen a lot.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm I'm not like a huge charlie person right, but the things that I have heard him say like because I'll watch. He was really good at debating people. I can't remember the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1:Yes, but he would be like, yeah, be like a bunch of people and, hey, let's talk about this topic. What do you want to talk about? Bring it up, bring it to the mic.
Speaker 2:I watched a lot of those yeah, me too and I found them interesting in the fact of like OK, yes, you are bringing some facts, but you're also taking that fact and you're turning it into opinion and you're saying, well, I don't believe that fact, but he would say I don't believe that because ABC, and then that's what that, and you know.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing. And then so if he would say I don't believe that or I don't agree with that, and then he would provide logic. Ok, and sometimes this is what I really admired about Charlie Kirk Sometimes he would lose the debate and he would say you got me.
Speaker 2:He would admit defeat, which does not happen often in those types of conversations. For me, there are some topics that I will stand on and you know this about me. There are some topics I will take a bullet for and stand up for and women's rights, women, sexual abuse and things like that, and LBGTQIA plus rights. You know, sexual abuse and things like that and LBGTQIA plus rights. All of those things there's to me in my head and this is the stubbornness in me, but the way I see it is, there is no logic other than to support it. That's just how it is.
Speaker 2:And because he didn't agree with it, I can't get on board with anybody like that. Like I have such a hard time with that because it hits so close to home for me in many levels. We're talking sexual abuse levels, we're talking LGBTQIA plus levels, we're talking women's rights levels Like there's so many of those things that hit so close to home to me. That is not a political belief, it is not an opinion, it is immoral and that is a part of my moral compass that I can't not support and I have a hard time. I almost refuse to see the other side because it is that close to me.
Speaker 1:Do you know any other LGBTQ plus other than someone in your family?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, a lot. Okay, yep, I work with a few. Okay, I personally feel like everyone, except for the one person that I know. Personally, I feel like a lot. Now this is going to be a real. I feel like there's a lot of mental health with transgender.
Speaker 1:We've talked about this and I'm not saying that I don't have mental health issues Right, and that most people, most people, do have mental health issues, but I think that a lot of people that I see that are transgender and you're referring like when they come into the clinic or something like when I kind of your main exposure, that's my main exposure. Okay, there's definitely things not in place, correct?
Speaker 2:I think for me, seeing is believing with your family member with our equal person that we know and I think a lot of that, to be honest with you, comes from a history of sexual abuse. Yeah, I. So that's one thing, like when he has said, oh, I don't believe it's one in five, I'm like I believe it's more than one in five.
Speaker 1:I really Because it depends on like what is your definition of sexual abuse. I have had different experiences of sexual abuse with different people In my lifetime, same, same. So I'm only one person out of one woman out of however many.
Speaker 2:Right, I think it's more than that. I think you know and I was talking to someone. Was I talking to you about this or I can't remember exactly who I was talking to. Maybe it was my new therapist. But, like, my experience with sexual trauma that I had and sexual abuse that I had in my early 20s made me think and feel that the only way a man is going to love me is if I have sex with them. The only way a man is going to want to be with me is if I have sex with them, and it was a pattern for years. I would anybody. It was like I want them to love me. Okay, I'll spread my legs right now.
Speaker 2:I'll do whatever they want me to do, because that's what was ingrained in me with the second person I ever slept with, and it was abusive, it was coercion.
Speaker 1:But that's normal to you because it's all you know.
Speaker 2:Correct, and it has taken me this long to get out of that and be like no, this is not normal, this is not healthy. And I think women are so scared. Men too Men have gone through are so scared. Men too. Men have gone through it too, I guarantee you. Oh yeah, they just don't talk like women do.
Speaker 2:It is such a taboo topic to talk about, but I think people forget. Sexual coercion is a form of sexual abuse. That's coercion being forced to do something, being talked into doing something Like if you don't do this, you don't love me. That into doing something like if you don't do this, you don't love me.
Speaker 1:Like that was. That was my thing. It was. If you don't do this, then I'm not going to be with you and, like all of these threats and bullshit, you're my wife.
Speaker 2:You're going to do what I that's exactly, that's exact, that's sexual coercion yes, like it is, I'm going to coerce you into doing this. I don't care, and it's mental manipulation. And when you're such a young age like I was, I was 20 years old. And even when you're such a young age like I was, I was 20 years old.
Speaker 1:And even when you're not young, sometimes just if you're vulnerable or lonely.
Speaker 2:I think about like women who got married at such a young age and then they get divorced. And I think you know like for you coming out of that terrible relationship and then figuring out oh this is what a healthy relationship looks like, this is what a healthy sexual relationship with my partner looks like. Like it's okay if we don't have sex tonight, you're still going to like me and love me the next morning.
Speaker 1:And respect me as a human. We're going to respect each other.
Speaker 2:Yes, Like that I've not been used to ever. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1:You know so clinically, I see so many people that say I have no libido. Correct, I have low libido. Yep, and I'll ask them when's the last time your husband held your hand or? Your partner When's the last time your partner did something nice for you? When's the last time they did the dishes without you asking them? When's the last time they just went out of their way to help with the household, help with the kids, help with whatever? Yep, when's the last time they were flirty with you?
Speaker 2:When's the last time they said you, when's the last time you kind of walked by and patted my ass a little bit In a not a sexual way, but in? A sweet way, in a sweet way of like oh. Or scratch my back a little Like oh, I kind of love you.
Speaker 1:Just rub my leg. Tell me like I appreciate you.
Speaker 2:I see what?
Speaker 1:because that is foreplay for women. We are not men. We don't just get blood flow to the dick. Nope, I know I'm hot, I know you're hot. Yep, looking at you doesn't give me a boner. No, sorry, sorry, doesn't, doesn't wet my whistle, not you. But I'm saying, like, looking at men doesn't give me a boner, doesn't make juice drip down my legs.
Speaker 2:I mean, we've talked about this. The best kind of porn is lady on lady porn.
Speaker 1:It is Like we've talked about this Girls are sexy, girls are sexy, but it turns us on. I think I can speak for 99% of straight women. Yep, if you preheat? The oven.
Speaker 2:Especially ones with children in a marriage and no, Anybody. Well, I'm single ladies.
Speaker 1:You. I'm single. Ladies, you know what we think, that I think when we're 20, 18, 25, 30. Yeah, we think that, depending on your sexual experience, I remember the first handful of times I had sex, I thought penetration was an orgasm because it sure was for them, yep. So what's wrong with me? Because it's so emotional for us and it's so visual for them. And I'm not saying, guys, that it's not emotional for you at all. No, I'm just putting this all in a bucket. But if you want your woman to want you, you gotta preheat the oven, you gotta be sweet, you gotta be kind you gotta be gentle, you gotta help.
Speaker 2:I want to see you, or like for me, if I'm dating someone, appreciate you like, I want you to be like, I want to see you, I want you to come over, or I want this or like make me feel wanted, make me feel wanted that is the biggest thing that I appreciate. I spell out now make me feel wanted as a human being, make me feel wanted like and also play a little hard to get, because we want what we can't have and when you're just always and then I'm when you're always trolling that dick like yeah I'm getting it's
Speaker 2:yours, whenever you want I like the challenge a little bit of like oh, bring it on.
Speaker 1:So, guys, that's my advice for you if you want us to be horny, then make us horny. Yeah, do something, do something we're sorry that we're not wired the same way you are.
Speaker 2:We're not sorry there's a reason why we're not wired the same. There's a huge reason for it. But, like just I, you know, as someone who has been single for a long time because I've been working through a lot of this stuff and this sexual trauma that I've experienced and things like that I am exhausted being the only one doing the dishes, being the only one cleaning, being the only one doing laundry, being the only one getting groceries, being the only one this, that and the other stuff. And it would be an immense difference if I came home and someone else put the dishes in the dishwasher or someone else cleaned the litter box and cleaned up the litter and all of these things. It would be an immense help. And I'm at a point in my life where I'm like that is not a priority. Right now. I'll let the dishes pile up in my sink, frankly, because I've been doing it for 20 years by myself and I'm fucking sick of it.
Speaker 1:I'm freaking over it. I used to be like super obsessive, compulsive about like this mental list in my mind I have to do the dishes, I have to do a load of laundry, I have to clean the bathroom tonight, I have to clean my bedroom the next night, I have to clean the living room the next night. I have to vacuum, I have to dust, I have to blah blah no let it go because it's gonna be there tomorrow and the next week. And guess what, if you do it, still going to get dirty.
Speaker 2:I was just talking to one of my coworkers today. She has had the most trauma in one year that I think anybody could have. Her husband has stage four melanoma oh my God. He's had it for years, but it's she's like I know one day it's going to kill him. So so she understood that and she's been dealing with that for a few years after that. Like she's been dealing with that since, basically since I started there four years ago. And now her brother passed away unexpectedly this year. Her mother-in-law passed away unexpectedly this year. Her dad got this weird infection in his brain, passed away.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh Went on hospice passed away a couple weeks ago. Not even a week after her dad passed away, her mom had a 12-hour back surgery. Her mom is now in a transitional care unit taking care of her. I don't know how she is surviving. I don't know how she is getting up every morning, and when I was talking to her today.
Speaker 2:Autopilot. Yeah, she was like I'm numb and I was, you know, and I was telling her and I was like, yeah, I said grief is going to hit you when you least expect it. You don't understand that until you experience it. Correct, and I said, as my own grief journey, like the one year anniversary of Patrick's death, was this past Sunday, on the 14th, I didn't reach out to you.
Speaker 1:I was trying to give you some space. I saw you put something on Facebook that was.
Speaker 2:That was I just like oh, I hope she's not mad at me no, no, no, no, no, no, it was really. It was actually really sweet. So Saturday we had the fish fry at my sister's house and stuff. My parents didn't go, they were sick and I have to say it was great, it was wonderful. So john's parents were there and then it was just the rest of us how was?
Speaker 2:his ear, um his skin graft on his leg popped open so he now can only weigh carry like five pounds and and stuff. So he's he's had it. He's had it rough it's getting better. My little cripple I know he, he's a 40 year old cripple.
Speaker 1:I feel so bad I know that your sister's listening, so that's why she, she laughs.
Speaker 2:But so you know, and so he's like frustrated because he can't do much and kelly's doing everything. And you know it came out when he took natalie camping, like they were like putting a tent together and it's on his thigh and he was like oh crap it looked like they like carved like a piece of cheese out of his leg.
Speaker 1:It's a line, it's just a line. It's not like a big no, because it's for the back of his ear kind of thing.
Speaker 2:But so when we were talking and John's parents were there, so we were talking about things and the issues with my parents right now and frustrations and stuff like that, and Kathy was like, oh, don't let it weigh on you, just being sweet, because my sister's in-laws are the best people in the entire world.
Speaker 1:That family is just wonderful. I'm very lucky, John.
Speaker 2:I hope you know how lucky you are to have good parents. He does.
Speaker 1:And Kelly to have the best in-laws. Like that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:She knows. So Danelle and I were joking like oh, you two adopted two more daughters. You thought you had one son and then you adopted a daughter and OK, we'll add a third one in there.
Speaker 1:I need a parent. I don't have any parents. They will easily.
Speaker 2:And so when I was leaving, Kathy gave me a hug because we were talking about like, oh, we're going to do this on Sunday. I said I'm going to sit at home and cry on Sunday, Like I'm not going to do anything. And I just kind of disassociated, Like when we were leaving, Kathy gave me a hug and was like don't have the weight of the world on your shoulders, All these sweet things. And then John, my brother-in-law, looks at me and he goes good luck, tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you. And I was like, oh, because the Bears are playing the Lions and he goes. No, and I was like oh, that's so sweet.
Speaker 1:I was like that's very sweet.
Speaker 2:The only time I cried was Kathy texted me and she was on Sunday and she was like you don't have to respond, but I just want you to know that we're thinking about you and all these things. I bawled and I told my sister I was like your fucking mother-in-law made me cry. She's like yeah, she tends to do that with people, so it was just it was.
Speaker 1:I don't believe in young love, but you're Kelly and John.
Speaker 2:They are the definition of what young love looks like, what it should be, what it should be. They met right out of high school. I mean, they met in high school, senior year of high school.
Speaker 1:Same friend group. It's been together forever, like only people that have been together.
Speaker 2:She followed him to college, like she had gotten into one college. He went to college. She had gotten into one college, he was in another, and then they started dating. She's like, all right, I'm going to do this one year, which I always think. Don't do that.
Speaker 1:Huge mistake.
Speaker 2:My parents were so against it. They're like just stay where you're at. This is stupid, Don't do it. And Kelly's like F you, I'm doing it and it worked out for the longest time.
Speaker 1:A lot of people get married because they want to have babies and they were like we want to be married because we want to be together Seven years. It was a long. It was a decision-making process about if it was a good idea to have a baby or not.
Speaker 2:I mean they're type A people.
Speaker 1:So they did pros and cons list. I appreciate that they're type A people, so they did pros and cons list. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:I think that's great. And they got Natalie, they got me as a child, they got Emily, they got a mini Emmy.
Speaker 1:See, that's why you don't ever have to have kids, because it's kind of like you did.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and you'll find out next week when you hang out with her for a full day. No, I love her. I know I do too.
Speaker 1:She's the best because she's you, she is I love you.
Speaker 2:She discovered the pigeon, the games on iphone and um ipad, the game center where you can play games with each other via text message. Oh, I don't know this. I didn't. I only play my farm. I've done it a little bit.
Speaker 2:But like she was in the house and we're on the patio and she's playing with danelle, she's playing with miles, she's playing with austin, she's playing like just back and forth, like it's like cup pong, it's basket hoops and eight ball, all these old school games. Danelle's like I regret giving her my number because it won't stop. That's great, that's the way it should be. I, it's great. But so back to, like, the whole grief and everything like that.
Speaker 2:I was fine on Sunday and I've been fine since. But I'm going to tell you that Monday, before I woke up and I remember like sitting at my desk at home, working, and I'm like my head is in a cloud, I don't know who I am, I don't know what's going on. I had a complete meltdown, like I was crying, like my coworker said something and it pissed me off for no reason and I started crying and I like lost my shit and I texted her later that night like I owe you an apology for how I responded. She's like, no, you don't, and I was like, but I do, it's not okay.
Speaker 2:It's not okay through something, and I was like I still want to apologize, Like for some. Grief is never linear for anybody, so like I can't sit here and judge Charlie Kirk's wife, I want to and do. I think what she did is kind of weird. Yeah, it's not what I would do. She's mad, Correct.
Speaker 1:I would be pissed too, Like I'm going to be a real bitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I'm pissed and I want revenge.
Speaker 1:And I'm not going to. Yeah, you should shut down my husband. I'm fucking gunning you down.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, that's not right. No, it's not, that's like your reaction Correct and everybody's reaction.
Speaker 2:reaction is different. Like I would have been devastated to the point I can't get out of bed same. That's me, you know, but, and so I have to I have to remember that when it comes to that whole situation, like that part of it, it's fight or flight. You know and and you know, like my co-worker, she's like I'm numb and I was like you will be for a long time, at least a year I'm. I hate to tell you this. She's like I I'm. I'm sure it was like, especially with the amount it might be.
Speaker 2:It's different for everybody. The amount of trauma that she has experienced this year is unlike anything anybody else has ever experienced, and I was like every day I talked to her I'm like how are you? She's like I'm here and I'm like, yep, that's all you can do. Like, do you need to talk? Do you want to talk?
Speaker 1:yep and that's one event yeah, just give to vent.
Speaker 2:Today we spent like 15 minutes just bitching. I was like bring it on, I'll listen to it.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest thing that I've learned through grief is that a lot of people are scared to say anything or don't know what to say because they haven't experienced it.
Speaker 1:And when there's somebody who finally says, how are you really doing or what happened, that is kind of like a big wall down gateway of thank you because I need to talk about your, the emotions, and everyone sees you like when my mom died and then my dad died, people would look at me and just look away because they were uncomfortable and I don't blame them for that, because that used to be me. I didn't know what to do, what to say. I hated going to funerals because I felt awkward. But it's remember. It's not about you, nope. And it's not okay to like acknowledge that person's loss and their grief this sucks. It's okay to just be like you know what. And if they cry, they probably need to. If they don't cry and they want to talk about it, they need to yep, and it's okay to just be like, yeah, this, this sucks, I don't.
Speaker 2:If I'm saying something and like expressing my emotions and things like that, I don't always need someone to give me an answer. I don't need someone to be like, well, do this or you should do that, I don't need help in it, I just need to express it and we just need someone to listen. There are very few people I feel safe with and it's funny. I was talking to my new therapist about this last week and I said, right before the one year anniversary of Patrick's death, and I said I think one of the only reasons why, one of the reasons why this is so hard on me, is because Patrick was one of the only men I've ever felt safe with and loved by.
Speaker 1:And truly loved by, Not in a romantic way, but like, just in a like you said in a safe way, yeah. Safe way, trusting, could do anything, say anything, not be judged and just always be loved. And he loved me unconditionally and I mean I can even say I felt loved and seen and heard by him, and I didn't know him you knew, yeah, for a year and a half.
Speaker 2:Like I've known, him forever because that's the type of person he is, though he was so just open-armed and yep it was enchanting to me.
Speaker 1:When that song came on, I was like this is my. It's just so weird, life is so weird like how that happened.
Speaker 2:Experience now. I mean the last time I was on the podcast was talking about how disappointed I was we were haters. And now I'm like, oh, I've seen this and I've seen that. No, the Enchanted has to do with the Taylor Swift song and, like Patrick Dempsey, and I was like so many things oh, my God, this is yeah, it's mind blowing. It is so weird.
Speaker 1:Like it's not on my mind. And like I have to text Emily and I was like funny.
Speaker 2:you say that because I just thought about that and then I was like wait, Patrick Dempsey was in the movie, Like so it just I sympathize with how she's reacting. Charlie Kirk's wife is how she's reacting to things in a way, because I can fully say we don't know what we would do. Correct, and no two griefs that people deal with are alike.
Speaker 1:I just hate when people use religion as a crutch. I will say that forever and ever and ever, and when it's a hypocrisy, and when it's a yeah, I believe in God, I believe in heaven.
Speaker 2:I believe in going there, I believe in a higher power. I believe I'm going to hell.
Speaker 1:I have this whole idea of what happens to me when I die and I'm good with that. It makes me feel okay with dying.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing is. I want to feel comfortable dying and okay with it.
Speaker 1:I don't need to share that with anybody, or preach it to anybody or tell anybody else they need to believe this Baptized in a dirty-ass lake. What happened to the holy beautiful?
Speaker 2:water in the little church. Yes, what happened to the little basin?
Speaker 1:when you're a baby and the cute dress you got to wear.
Speaker 2:Oh my, I was such a cute little baby when I got baptized.
Speaker 1:Oh, my baptism. I don't know what you look like as a baby, but as a toddler you look like a little. Sandy Hicks, I was I was.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, I know, oh girl, you're a mom. I know I was, but I was so cute, I said to my sister in the.
Speaker 2:So there's these. I was cleaning a couple of weeks ago when I was off for like two weeks of work. I was deep cleaning my house and I cleaned my dresser and, mind you, my dresser was just a landing zone of shit for the last five years that I've lived there. And when we were cleaning out my grandma Irene's house, I found this trifold picture frame of my sisters and I and Danelle was probably in middle school, kelly was about fourth grade, I was three, like it was not concurrent with where we are in an age range at all and it wasn't in birth order either.
Speaker 2:Like I sent this to my sister and Kelly was like it bothers me so much it's not in birth order she didn't know, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she didn't know or care it, it was.
Speaker 2:Irene. I could write a whole book on Irene. We should, we should write a book.
Speaker 1:We don't have enough time to talk about what we're reading or what we're watching, but we could write a book.
Speaker 2:We could write a book About so many things, about so many things, we could quit our day job.
Speaker 1:Oh things, but we have to quit our day job.
Speaker 2:Oh can we? No, I do like my day job most of the time. You can just work remote. I know the other. Yes, not me, bye, no. The other day, the other day, I was like, oh, I like my job, but 6 15 I'm wide awake but I don't have to log in for a couple hours. What do I do? And I was talking to a friend of mine and he was like, well, don't you have to go into the office? And I was like not today, okay so I'm gonna reel you in.
Speaker 1:We're gonna finish the trifold picture, because then we are gonna talk about the state fair. Oh yes, before we're out of time, one hour and I'm gonna cut everything off thanks for listening.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the trifold picture I found it and I was like I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do with this, and my sister was like, if you don't want it, I'll take it. So on Saturday, when we were at the house of the fish, she had it on display. Did she change the birth order? No, she did not. Actually, I thought she would have, but I was looking at my picture, was it?
Speaker 1:favorite to least favorite.
Speaker 2:No, I was last, you were. No, I was last.
Speaker 1:You were. So you were birth order and not the favorite. I know you were the favorite.
Speaker 2:I was the favorite, especially for those two. My mom's parents, oh yeah for sure. But I was looking at it and I was like, oh, I had chipmunk cheeks at three years old. I had bags under my eyes at three years old. You, poor child. I looked at that and I was like I don't feel so bad about my chipmunk cheeks and the bags under my eyes and my sister's like I never noticed that and I sent her a picture and I circled. It was a picture of me and Jen from a couple months ago and I circled, I said bags, the same Chipmunk cheeks, and I was like at age three, it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm almost 40.
Speaker 1:I know you are not almost 40. As somebody who is over 40. Hang on, we got too loud. You are not almost 40. As somebody who is over 40. Shut the fuck up, I would love to be under 40. You bitch, I know I know State fair, state fair. Okay, I was shut the fuck up. I would love to be under 40. Ya bitch, I know State Fair. I was just telling Wendy, were you there when I bought my shirt, my t-shirt? I bought the t-shirt, the blue one with the new logo on it.
Speaker 2:You didn't really buy much. You bought the fuckadoodledoo and the nuts Fuck a doodle do. Oh, you bought the fuck a doodle do. Fuck a doodle do. Shirt and the nuts and the nuts.
Speaker 1:And the sunflower seeds and the banana chips. Yep, that's what you bought, that's what I bought, but I was just telling so. Anyway, I wore my State Fair shirt on Monday. It didn't work and I had some appointments and I got multiple comments, multiple compliments on my shirt.
Speaker 2:The new style is really good. A lot of people like it.
Speaker 1:And so I was just like you know, and it was both people love the State Fair right we love the. State Fair. But anyway, I was just telling Wendy about that. Like I got that shirt, I got a lot of compliments on it and I said, and I just have to say, like Emily and I always have a good time at the State Fair, but this year was the best and it wasn't anything that happened. It was just like the weather was perfect. We were there the perfect amount of time.
Speaker 2:Trav and Tay got engaged.
Speaker 1:Yes, we celebrated that. It wasn't super, it didn't feel super busy. It was busy enough, but there wasn't lines. We didn't even do everything we wanted to do, but it was enough.
Speaker 2:We know we have to go earlier next year. Year apparently we do. 12 hours was not enough, but like we had so much fun and we met nice people teaching john, we met this guy so every year we go to the men's club.
Speaker 1:Somebody was just telling me this year they're like oh my gosh, this year we discovered the midway men's club and I I'm like, oh, I know all about that place.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I called it the Gentleman's Club. The next day, when I went to the Lincoln Park concert with two friends, I was like, oh yeah, we were at the Gentleman's Club and they're like what, there's a strip club at the same fair, because I was with two guys and they were like what, where's that?
Speaker 1:What's this secret we don't know about? That's great.
Speaker 2:So we were at the Midway Men's Club. We always go every year to have a Coors Light in honor of Lynn.
Speaker 1:So backstory is that back in the day before, the state fair was like big on drinks. Social media Big on drinks, right Like they had beer. That was it back, even 10 years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they didn't have fancy cocktails.
Speaker 1:And my mom only liked Coors Light, and so the Midway Men's Club was the only place that really had Coors Light. So it was always like, when she saw that place, every time we looped around, she had to stop you, drop her off with her scooter and then you come back and pick her up Exactly.
Speaker 2:So we always have a beer there in memory. It's an honor of her. And the guy that served us was a mix of cheech and chong. I looked at you and I said I don't even know who we call him.
Speaker 1:I said, is he cheech or chong? And you're like I don't know you're.
Speaker 2:You're a mix of both, and we ordered two small coolers lights. It was not, course, light that he gave us.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the hell. And I'll tell you, we were already both, like, kind of, at our brink of drinking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we were like, because we pace ourselves, it's like one every hour or two.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like we don't go hard.
Speaker 1:We're going to eat, we're going to have a soda, we're going to have some water.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, we were really good about pacing ourselves until we got to Midway Men's Club, because she shouldn't chomp, don't follow this. I almost did, so we get there and we order two small Coors Lights Guaranteed, he did not give us Coors Light.
Speaker 1:It was either.
Speaker 2:McGolden or Kona. It was not Kona. It was not Kona either, it was McGolden Light. So we drink those and we're like, okay, we're great, we're done. And this guy wanted to keep talking to us. Like, okay, we're great, we're done. And this guy wanted to keep talking to us. He knew that we were a social group that we'd like to talk, and he's just chit-chatting with us.
Speaker 1:Clearly, we were talking about great things and he was intrigued by our conversation.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what we were talking about. He told us about his band and all these things.
Speaker 1:Then I realized it was just about his band and then I felt good, because I don't Get the creep vibe Correct.
Speaker 2:I did not get the creep vibe vibes from him and he was pouring free drinks Correct and so even.
Speaker 1:I'm like I can't have a free drink, I can't have any more drinks. I still have to go to here, here, here here, here, and have a drink. I don't have that capacity for the drinks.
Speaker 2:Yes, so he's like you're fine, you're fine. He's like this is how we drink. Beer that he poured us was a different color and we're like we weren't we weren't drinking Coors before and I'm like this is Coors and then so he's done with work and he just like comes and sits down with us and he's just bsing with us and I looked at him and I was like you remind me of Cheech and Chong and he's like yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I gave him a hit of my vape and he was so excited you gave us free drinks, like you can have some of this.
Speaker 2:And he's like really, yeah, he was like a 55 year old man who, like probably never married, had no kids, but like just live in life live in life, but never gave the creep vibe or anything like we went to the ballpark after and after and we were sitting down. I'm like he did not give me the creeps or the ick at all, he was just a chill dude. We were both like did you get the?
Speaker 1:ick no.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Like nothing and I was scared Like at first, I'm going to get the ick. Yes, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2:No, he was just chill and like he was so stoned out of his mind I mean, but at the okay, so at the Midway Men's Club, it's all volunteers. Yeah, it's all volunteers. They don't get paid anything, it's all donations. He said he works because he gets free beers and gives free beers. I don't blame him. Next year we need to find Cheech and John yes, I don't even know his real name Do?
Speaker 1:you, johnny, or something I have?
Speaker 2:the look of a spand. So we did that. And that was 6 o'clock. Was this after you found Cock-a-doodle-doo?
Speaker 1:I don't know the timeline heavily.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1:I feel like it was after, because I feel like we were on our way down.
Speaker 2:I feel like you found the Cock-a-doodle-doo shirt and then we went to Midway. You found the Cock-a-doodle a fucking doodle I did. I was like, oh my god, you're like I need that. That's the name of Wolverine. It was great. And then we went. The very last things we did we went over to. So we hit up a lot of shit because we went to OPA. We always go to OPA. Oh, that was a good one. Opa was fun.
Speaker 1:OPA's good, it was so busy. And then we went to RC Mike Poot.
Speaker 2:We saw Mike Poot for a little bit, and then we went over to Shell, yep Shell, which it's not Shell anymore it's not. Is it Shell that Ice cream now? I don't think it's Shell.
Speaker 1:I thought it was Shell with the frosty topper. I thought you're thinking of the Limey, because we saw Sherry. I forgot we saw Sherry. We saw at the old. I forgot we saw Sherry. Yeah, we saw.
Speaker 2:Sherry at the old Liony Lodge. It's not the Liony Lodge anymore, but I remember when we went over and we got the topper. They have the topper still, but that's Well, you got it.
Speaker 1:so I don't know. We shared that.
Speaker 2:The frozen ice cream. Oh, but I don't think it's Shell anymore, I think selling the shell sangria.
Speaker 1:They so they sell that, but they mix, they have other things, because he's got my car oh that's. Is it okay if I go and say hi to my dad?
Speaker 2:so go to his house quick.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, honey, have fun. Drive safe if you want to go see him.
Speaker 2:I'm glad he loves. He should love his dad. I'm glad he you want to go see him. I'm glad he loves. He should love his dad. I'm glad he does like to go see his dad.
Speaker 1:I wish that his dad and I could be civil and whatever, but it's just an awkward situation. He's gross.
Speaker 2:At the very end I got emotional because we stopped at the jewelry stand where I bought that dinosaur necklace. That was one of the last things I like showed pat it was. It was emotional. And then we were at the um shell music stand and that was when, you know, I saw patrick for the last time, or when I heard patrick was going on hostage. It was a whole. It was a whole emotional thing at the end but we were wasted. I don't understand. I keep telling people I'm, I was there for 12 hours. I've told families I'm like I don't know how we went from fine to not and what was the point?
Speaker 1:I do. We had a lot of wine, we had a lot of drinks, we had a lot of food, but we were also there for 12 hours. I don't even know how many drinks we had, probably 12. But I had a drink an hour. I had probably about a drink an hour, but I also oh, I just opened up my backpack, yeah, and I still had money in there and I was like I didn't see, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:I ran out of money and you're like, oh, don't worry, I got you babe. And I was like I just ran out of cash, yeah I don't care, I know if I still have cash.
Speaker 1:I have cash.
Speaker 2:I don't care and I still have money, money, money, money money doesn't count.
Speaker 1:Girl math. All right, friends. That's a wrap on today's episode of On Our Best Behavior. Huge thanks to Emily for hanging out and keeping things hilarious. If you had fun with us today, don't forget to hit that like button, follow and subscribe, so you never miss an episode. We'll be back next week with McCoy, so brace yourself, because you know it's going to be a wild one. I yourself, because you know it's going to be a wild one. I don't know, I don't know. Thanks for listening. Until then, try to stay on your best behavior.
