On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 16-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
Kryptid Confidential
What happens when the veil between worlds grows thin enough to glimpse what lurks beyond? Bob Dominguez, seasoned Bigfoot researcher and paranormal investigator, takes us on a mind-bending journey through the shadowy realm where cryptids and the supernatural converge.
Ever wondered why Bigfoot bodies are never found? According to wildlife biologist John Benderneagle, "If a Bigfoot doesn't want to be found, it's not going to be found." These elusive giants combine animal-level senses with human intelligence, vanishing into vast wilderness or—as some witnesses claim—stepping into interdimensional portals that swallow them whole.
The conversation ventures into electromagnetic phenomena that connect both paranormal activity and cryptid sightings. Bob shares his groundbreaking theory that Bigfoot may actually weaponize electromagnetic fields found along power line right-of-ways, intensifying fear in witnesses who encounter them. This could explain why people often flee in terror rather than documenting their experiences.
From the Mothman prophecies of Point Pleasant to government conspiracy theories involving MK-Ultra experiments, we explore how cryptid encounters might be manufactured, genuine, or something far stranger. The mysterious figure Indrid Cold—a "smiling man" in anachronistic clothing who appeared before tragedy struck—raises questions about entities that exist outside our normal understanding of reality.
Most fascinating are accounts suggesting Bigfoot and other cryptids might be more than flesh and blood. Native American wisdom holds these creatures as spiritual beings, while multiple witnesses report seeing them disappear into thin air or step through portals leading to arctic environments. Even psychics who help with paranormal cases often refuse to assist with alien encounters, believing these beings exist outside normal temporal constraints.
Whether you're a skeptic wanting to understand the psychology behind these phenomena or a believer seeking validation, this episode challenges everything you thought you knew about what lurks in the shadows. Subscribe now and join us as we venture beyond the boundaries of the known world—just remember to look behind you when searching for Bigfoot, because the one you see might just be the distraction.
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Welcome back to Honor Best Behavior. I'm your host, kelly, and today I've got a very special guest in the house. He's hairy, he's mysterious, he only comes out under a full moon. It's Robert Bigfoot. Bob Dominguez.
Speaker 2:Hey Cryptid Kelly AKA Kirby.
Speaker 1:Kirby.
Speaker 2:AKA. Was it nine upper no?
Speaker 1:Nine over.
Speaker 2:Nine over.
Speaker 1:Because I always go nine over the speed limit. For those of you who didn't listen to that, well, that was on your show, so people might not have heard it if they haven't been smart enough to get on the bandwagon there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's you've like. I think whenever we started talking you didn't have any nicknames. Now you got a bunch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we've been working on it. I don't know if any of them are going to stick, but we're going to try. Okay, we'll see. I should say we'll see. I'm not trying to make it stuff, because I'm Cryptid Kelly.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Right. So I figured that if that's going to be my nickname, I got to live up to it.
Speaker 2:I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're going to dive into paranormal versus cryptids, ghosts, schools, mothmen, maybe even Bob's distant cousins.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And yeah, so let's get into it. I guess here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm really excited to talk to you about this stuff, because I don't know. I mean, I think I know some but, I, usually am way off on what I think I know and what is true, and so I'm really excited to have an expert on the show like you so that you can kind of put me straight and tell me where I'm right and tell me where I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:Well, I wouldn't say I'm an expert, I was just saying.
Speaker 1:You're not.
Speaker 2:I've delved into lots of stuff. Yeah, we like in the in people in the Bigfoot field, we don't we try not to say that word Bigfoot expert, because we, because we're not, we haven't discovered it yet. So we can't be experts if this thing has not been, like, discovered by science yet. So but anyway, I'm sorry, I'm just getting technical on it.
Speaker 1:Sorry, you're getting real technical on it. My show is not that technical, it's just fun and funny okay. Right, we're just here for entertainment.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Any and all kinds. Okay, All right. So Bigfoot, I feel like, is the most known cryptid creature right, mm-hmm. And also known as Sasquatch Right Hairy creature tall 6 to 12 feet. 15 feet yeah, how tall do you think he could be?
Speaker 2:There's been some reports, like I was talking to a guy recently, matt matt parish, and he has the. The side of his house is like the easement from the from the ground to the very top of the, the roof he had. He has a video of of a bigfoot turning a corner around his house and his easement from the floor to the to the top of the roof is like 10 feet and this bigfoot's head was over that so, yeah, 10 to 12 feet, yeah, six to 15 feet tall yeah, that's, that's massive, that's
Speaker 2:massive so it's it's scary, but it's very intriguing to hear stories like that.
Speaker 1:So all right. So for the people who are skeptics of bigfoot, there's been so much footage of bigfoot captured, but how, how can we not prove it?
Speaker 2:prove it yeah that that I get that question more than any, than anything from anybody. Hey, bob, how come we haven't got like any footage there's? There's a couple of footage that I feel that's real. Number one is the Roger Patterson from 1967. That was on an 8mm film, so that one to me is authentic. You can't really alter it at all. There's another one called the Freeman footage and that was in, uh, the pacific northwest.
Speaker 1:that one I feel it's real which the pacific northwest is the most, um big footy. Whatever I can't, why can't I say it? It's like the most populated place where you would see bigfoot, that's that's.
Speaker 2:That's british columbia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, british columbia washington state, oregon, uh, northern that's what they say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, British Columbia, Washington State, Oregon, Northern California, all that area.
Speaker 1:It's really foresty.
Speaker 2:It's massive. It's massive. You could just throw a dart and go to an area and there's no people and there's no houses or any kind of construction.
Speaker 1:And you probably couldn't find the dart you threw, just like if you saw Bigfoot then you would lose them real fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's just a big, massive area. But yeah, you're correct on that area, it's very, very massive.
Speaker 1:And then do you remember the show Harry and the Hendersons.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Was that Bigfoot, or was that just the big ape?
Speaker 2:It was a Bigfoot, it was aendersons. Yes, was that Bigfoot, or was that?
Speaker 1:just the big ape. It was a Bigfoot. It was a Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I actually just recently showed that one to the boys and the boys loved that movie so much I can't remember if it was a movie or a show. It was a movie. It was a movie that came out and then they did a show with the original actor who played him, but it didn't last very long.
Speaker 1:Do you remember Elf?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Not my gosh, my memory is real bad today. Not Will Ferrell Elf, but like Elf A-L-F.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah, the alien one.
Speaker 1:He's also like an alien or like a cryptid creature, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he kind of resembles a Bigfoot a little bit in a way.
Speaker 1:But he's little.
Speaker 2:A small one, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a small one. When I was little, I always wanted to do you remember the movie Gremlins?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I always wanted that little gremlin. What was his name?
Speaker 2:Gizmo.
Speaker 1:Gizmo, I wanted him so bad.
Speaker 2:I was. So I wanted him, so bad I wanted him to be real. Yeah, he kind of resembles a very hairy Yoda.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you kind of think about it, A cuter yeah a cuter Also, do you remember in Star Wars, the Ewoks? I also wanted one of them, really bad.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I did. I love those characters. I'm a huge Star Wars fan.
Speaker 1:Do you remember? I'm just going down memory, see, my memory sucks. And then, once I open the door, it just keeps going, do you? Remember those little stuffed animals. They were called Chubbles.
Speaker 1:And they had these little light up eyes and they're light sensitive and so if something passes it or the light hits it right, it would be like it makes this. They're called chubbles, so it makes this chubble chitter noise and they kind of looked like Ewoks because they have little robes on. But they kind of reminded me of when my mom died. I had one and it would go off randomly and I'm sure it was the battery dying, but I thought I was just like, oh, it's my mom.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Cause it just gave me some peace.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you, you got a lot of paranormal stories that I didn't know that was that was definitely the batteries, that was not it wasn't like there was no batteries in there and it was just going off.
Speaker 1:I mean there was yeah yeah but so so my paranormal like what's really paranormal and what's like made up in my mind very questionable yeah, yeah, I mean uh you're agreeing, thanks no, I I mean it's.
Speaker 2:It's just like you know you have to because, like I've done both I've done paranormal and I've done cryptid stuff and so I sometimes I find like some of that stuff is kind of there's a thin line and they kind of cross over sometimes. And so, you know, I've interviewed so many people like in the paranormal and cryptid stuff. So you know, I try to hear people out completely and without judging them or just telling them like, oh you know, you're not telling me the truth or whatever. That didn't happen. So I'm kind of in that mode all the time. So if you want to, someone tells me a story. I just I want to hear it all completely.
Speaker 1:So you're really good about being open-minded, do you get a lot of skeptics that try to give you a hard time?
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot. I get family members at first. You know, I've had a lot of family members. I had some really close friends in high school who just disowned me because I got into Bigfoot stuff and they just didn't want to talk to me and I kind of felt like I was carrying them anyway. So I said, you know what, I don't really need them, so I'm good.
Speaker 1:A lot of those high school junior high friends. They're just, they're friends because they're there, right, and you see them every day. Yeah, okay, so Bigfoot. You know, my experience with Bigfoot is when I was a kid I had a power wheels and I'd put my brother in the back and he'd fall out and I had the Bigfoot one, which is like the monster truck, not the hairy creature, but what I was always super fascinated with was Locky, the Loch Ness monster, and now people seem to believe in Locky more than Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's a possibility because that lake is like super ancient and there's like I think there's parts of it that are deeper than some parts of the ocean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's super, super, super deep, because I think they've tried to go to the very bottom to try to find Lockheed and they can't go to the bottom because of the pressure.
Speaker 2:The pressure and there's so much sediment that just moves around and it limits them from actually seeing any, because I think a lot of stuff that they actually get on there is like sonar stuff. And there's like there's some really, unless there's like sonar stuff, and there's like there's some really, unless there's like a like a thousand schools of of fish like swimming together constantly, then you know, that's that's what you know. People say, oh, you know, it's a, it's, it's a, possibly a creature that's very, very large.
Speaker 1:So so if there's only one lochie in one lake, how has it survived this long? There's there's only one Lockheed in one lake. How has it survived this long?
Speaker 2:There's rumors saying that there's underwater caverns that lead into the ocean.
Speaker 1:Oh, so there could be more than one.
Speaker 2:Right, and so there's also stories about, and I get fascinated by it. But there's center of the earth there's caves that are so massive and there's environments down there that other creatures stay down there. It's just conjecture, to be honest with you, that I kind of like and I kind of I kind of delve into that sometimes and, uh, it's very, very amazing story and it's it's you know, you get, you get more questions than you get answers whenever, because it's it's hard to prove that you know well and like lucky.
Speaker 1:You know. They say that some reptiles survived like the dinosaur era, like my chickens, for example, are the closest living relative to a t-rex yeah so so locky, could it could be the same thing, right, like if locky was way down with his little locky family members. Maybe they survive yeah, there's.
Speaker 2:there's some fish that uh, I think it was. It's called the uh coelacanth. It's a peristaltic fish. It should have been like 30 million years ago and fishermen have caught it. They've actually thrown lines very, very low and they've caught it and they brought it up to the surface and then it died. It couldn't survive the elements.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the elements now, so it's like if they put us on pluto and we can't breathe gas.
Speaker 2:Yep, we would die so there's, it is a possibility, I think you know, just for them to find that that one fish think about.
Speaker 1:They discover new species of animals and bugs and in the ocean every day. There's so much unknown still.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kind of exciting, but it's kind of scary at the same time. Creepy, yeah.
Speaker 1:It creeps me out. That's why I don't like the ocean, because there's too many things in there that I don't even know what's going on. And sharks? Nope, don't do sharks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't like the ocean. I don't know, I hyperventilate in the ocean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I don't like it either. I don't like to go underwater and I don't like when there's weird, when there's things bigger than me in the water, even at the lake, if I feel like a fish, go by my foot, I'm done, I'm out. Yeah, give me a pool where I can see my feet, where there's no creatures, or shouldn't be in there.
Speaker 2:I think this is why I hover toward you so much, because we have. So we have some stuff that we have in common.
Speaker 1:We don't even know it, so I went on a cruise a few times, but the first time I ever did, I would have this reoccurring nightmare that a shark would jump up onto the cruise ship, like onto the like big landing and then, like you know, then it was like titanic where, like the boat was tipping over and everyone's like I'm like hanging on to not fall in, but yeah didn't happen you know, if I would, wouldn't, I wouldn't go on a cruise.
Speaker 2:But if I did, I'd probably do the same thing. I would treat the same thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's weird, you know it was, it was fine, it was fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
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Speaker 1:And was that a movie? Did they make a movie out of Mothman?
Speaker 2:Yes, it's called the Mothman Prophecies.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:And so this one is really, really fascinating. This one I think the original book is written by Stephen Keel and the movie's based on his book, and so he has a character in there that I'm very, very fascinated with. His name is Ingrid Cole, and so he is. They don't know if he's an alien, a trans, a changed dimensional person or being or something, or he is a part of the um the uh, men in black, and so supposedly he came. He came into west virginia, pleasant point, west virginia, before the mothman showed up, and so he's kind of tied into it.
Speaker 1:but there was like a big bridge, fatality right.
Speaker 2:And so they think that okay.
Speaker 1:They think like he survived that and came back as Mothman.
Speaker 2:No, what it was is that Ingrid Cole was telling people. He was warning people about it before it happened.
Speaker 1:Oh, hence prophecies, yes, okay.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing about the Mothman. So there's a theory. Like I said, it's conjecture, there's not any data for it. But the Point Pleasant is right between the CIA Langley. It's right close to the FBI, which was what's the FBI headquarters. It's Quantico Virginia.
Speaker 1:Quantico.
Speaker 2:And so then there's a bunch of stuff. So the theory on that one was that the government had put something in the water in Point Pleasant and it caused these people to see this Mothman, and so it was almost like there's a thing called mk ultra. I don't know if you've ever heard of that. Um, it's like a, like a mind control stuff.
Speaker 1:It was like, yeah, I kind of read about it and some of the stuff I was looking at, yeah, yeah, cia stuff, mk, ultra stuff, so there's, there's all that stuff.
Speaker 2:It's all kind of gathered together. So we don't know if people actually saw Mothman, or they were just drinking the water and they were seeing this stuff. And then they were seeing Ingrid Cole as well. But Ingrid Cole is also he's in other authors' books, other than Stephen Keels. So supposedly he's like a strange entity.
Speaker 2:They call him the smiling man, and so he was. He was wearing clothes that that looked out of his error, like he's wearing, like a shiny suit, and he was smiling and he was at. He was at a diner. He didn't know how to use, you know, uh, like a knife and a fork, so he's watching other people do it, so he would copy them and eat. So there's that guy's. Oh, I think I have like two episodes on on uh, ingrid cole. So I just I've been, in fact I've been fascinated. I'm supposed to get this guy named alan greenspan he's, he wrote a book about uh, prophecies and stuff like that and he has, um, ingrid cole and I'm trying to get him on on to our show, but he's really hard to get in touch with.
Speaker 1:I also think like prophecies and prophets are super fascinating.
Speaker 2:It is, it is, so I get intrigued with all that stuff too.
Speaker 1:So All right. So the next one that I want to talk to you about is the now I don't know how to say it chupacabra.
Speaker 2:You got it.
Speaker 1:I did Okay yeah that was perfect. So the little cryptid that I really like bunnies and so the jackalope is always a little cryptid that has my heart. Yeah, it's really cute, but you never hear anyone talk about the jackalopes art, yeah, but you never hear anyone talk about the jackalops.
Speaker 2:You see, like you see people who, who do these customs um yeah, taxidermy, yeah, taxidermy yeah yeah, and they like do that all the time and I've seen it before. But yeah, I don't think I've ever talked to anybody who's seen one. So but uh, chupacabra, the, that one is really, really fascinating as well. So I don't know the exact date, but supposedly it was first reported in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Puerto Rico, yep.
Speaker 2:And there's like a big US laboratory there. So, theory has that they were working on this inner species. They were combining species together and this chupacabra escaped from this laboratory and it was killing goats. That was the first thing it attacked with goats, but it was sucking their blood right.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was just draining all the blood out of their body. Because, then it got like this it was called like a vampire creature so that's what I was telling you off show.
Speaker 2:Chupa means suck yeah, and cabra means goat, so it's goat Spanish yes, well, it's yeah yeah, goat sucker, is that what you?
Speaker 1:said yep, but didn't it also attack cows and horses and other things? It?
Speaker 2:did it, did it, did go to the first thing, yeah, the first thing they got, they got reapported and it, like it, went viral did go to the first thing, yeah, the first thing they got. They got reapported and it, like it, went viral before viral was. Was good, you know so, but there's like viral was a disease. Not when it was, yes, not when it was a phenomenon I was trying to say that, but you you know what I was talking about.
Speaker 2:So I did but uh, so there's. There's been like a lot of reports in like East Texas or not East Texas, south Texas of these chupacabras. But to me, I've seen footage of this stuff and pictures of it and it just looks like coyotes, like in mange.
Speaker 1:It says it can look reptilian scaly skin, large red eyes, dog-like with fangs and claws.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no one's actually like they've.
Speaker 1:No footage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's footage of it, but, like I was telling you, it's mostly like coyotes or dogs that have really, really bad mange. Oh yeah, they don't have any skin. I mean not skin, but hair.
Speaker 1:They just look like scaly a little bit, yeah, so hair, and they just look like scaly a little bit, yeah. So well, how in the world would livestock blood get drained without it being like some kind of vampire thing, because there's no like huge gash yeah it like cut a main artery.
Speaker 2:Yeah I don't, I don't think there's. I mean, the only only thing I can think of that can do that is a bat yeah, a A bat can do that.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was Mothman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, could be.
Speaker 1:Doesn't have big fangs like a bat, though Just big wings.
Speaker 2:He made it down to Puerto Rico to go on vacation or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe he's like oh, I wonder how many more people I can throw off.
Speaker 2:You were so funny yesterday.
Speaker 1:All right, so Puerto Ricoxico and texas, which is where you live. So right that's good. Oh, and it does say that misidentification, such as dogs or coyotes, with mange all right some people think that it's an undiscovered species of carnivore or a large flightless bat which would make sense right if it's a bloodsucker yeah, but there's some people think it's extraterrestrial it could be, it could be.
Speaker 2:And then, uh like, there's a lot of theories of, like aliens dropping off bigfoots. There's a lot of alien, you know, theories of them dropping off other creatures as well.
Speaker 1:So I mean yeah, yeah, so me and mac we were having a conversation about bigfoot and aliens and one of the questions wasfoot and aliens and one of the questions was well, this one wasn't one of the questions, but this is one of the questions I've been wanting to ask you that I always forget and I just remembered it. So why doesn't Bigfoot want to be found?
Speaker 2:You know what? I had this conversation with John Benderneagle. He's already passed. He passed a couple couple years ago. But he was a wildlife biologist for British Columbia University and he's got one of the best books that anybody could ever read if they want to start talking about or thinking about Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:But I cornered him somewhere at this Bigfoot conference and I asked him why can't we find a Bigfoot? And he goes. Well, bob, he says you have to think like a deer has very high senses of smell, sight and hearing. A Bigfoot is the same way, but it's got a big brain and so if it doesn't want to be found, it's not going to be found, because if you come into an area and he knows that you're coming, he can smell you coming, he's gone and he's always you know. He told me that and then I asked him this question. I said how come we can never find a body? He says well, he goes.
Speaker 2:I know there's grizzly bears. I know there's grizzly bears and there's black bears. He goes. But I've been all over the woods I've never seen bones, but I know ravens and vultures and falcons and coyotes and wolves and stuff. So that's what he told me and I go. Man, that really made sense. So he's, you know, he told me that and he's, you know, he's studied and he's he's interviewed hundreds and hundreds and thousands of people. So, you know, I I really liked talking to him because, you know, here I was just a nobody and I was asking him questions and I was telling him, like you know, my ideas, and he'd pull out a pad and a pen and he started writing down what I was saying. Now, granted, he probably never used it, but it just made me feel good that he was doing that.
Speaker 1:You know I do that a lot, Like when you're talking. I'll start jotting down notes because I'm like, oh, that's a good idea. I got to hang on to that for another time, so it must be something about you that you radiate.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but thank you. That's one of the highest compliments I could, and getting it from you, I oh, stop.
Speaker 1:Okay, so back to the.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot thing.
Speaker 1:I can't let you be stroking my ego too much, because then I just get on my high horse and then my family gets mad at me that I think I'm so special. So anyway so Bigfoot with nobody seeing him and his remains not being there. So the debate Mackie and I were having is could it be because there is some extraterrestrial component to Bigfoot?
Speaker 2:Yes, they could be. What do you think? I'm asking what you think about that. What I think is that I've talked to Choctaw natives. I've talked to see Choctaw and there was another one. I can't think of it right now but I've talked to Native American people and so they believe it's spiritual and they also believe in aliens as well.
Speaker 2:So whenever I first started with a group, their ideal or their kind of pounding to you that Bigfoot is flesh and blood, and so once I left that group and I started doing stuff on my own, started interviewing other people, then you kind of run into the realm. I was telling you earlier that paranormal and Bigfoot kind of run almost a real thin line, because I've been in the woods hundreds of times and I've run into stuff that I cannot explain. I don't know if it's paranormal, I don't know if it's explain, I don't know if it's paranormal, I don't know if it's UFO, I don't know if it's Bigfoot, but I've had weird, weird things happen to me and I just think that there's a thin line between Bigfoots, possibly aliens, or maybe supernatural or paranormal stuff. So I was telling you before I think there's theories on Bigfoots that can do infrasound, where they can paralyze a deer or a person or whatever. That's in theory. And then there's EMF. I've talked to you about that as well In paranormal the government, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there's theories that whenever ghosts manifest, they give off EMF. So that's the theory for that.
Speaker 1:Ghosts give off EMF. Is that like leftover energy kind of thing?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's almost like say, for example, you have a haunted house and then there's a power line coming in from the, from the power pole to your house then, or maybe even like a um electrical box so that gives off EMF.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the word I was trying to think of yes.
Speaker 2:So there's, there's that, so there's, there's all these things, so there's that, so there's all these things. And so everybody reacts. Similar with EMF and also infrasound. So people get headaches, they get nauseated, they get fearful, they get lightheaded.
Speaker 1:What does it stand for? Whatever it's called?
Speaker 2:Electric magnetic field. Okay, okay, yeah, that makes sense. So there's, so there's, there's, there's like, uh, like whenever I do, whenever I first started doing bigfoot stuff, kelly, um, I noticed that there's a lot of sightings by electrical right-of-ways and I don't know if you know what. So, and then there's gas right-of-ways as well. So there's like a clear cut through a county.
Speaker 1:With a lot of residual energy.
Speaker 2:So there is, and so there's a lot of sightings near these, and then sometimes, whenever you want to find a Bigfoot, you go find one of those and you always find, like footprints, hair broken trees, hair broken trees we call them tree stacks or wood stacks where supposedly there's like a teepee of sticks just stuck together, and so we'd always had that theory that it's a way of Bigfoots communicating with other Bigfoots. So in this area you have EMF, and so it's always been my theory that Bigfoots use this as a weapon, like they weaponize it. So if you're going down this electrical gas right away and you see a Bigfoot, your fear is intensified completely, and I've heard stories of people just running out screaming.
Speaker 1:Or they don't stop, they just push the gas like oh my gosh. I just saw something crazy and I don't want to see anymore.
Speaker 2:So that's, that's the theory on that stuff. So, uh, I was pushed. I've been pushing that since I think the last two years. I've been, uh, kind of been one of those people that said, saying, hey, this is what I think, because I've done ghost stuff and I've done cryptid stuff.
Speaker 1:And they kind of marry each other sometimes. So if they found Bigfoot fur when they study that, what do they determine it is?
Speaker 2:So that's a really good question. So I've done some research in Paris, texas, and there was this barbed wire fence that we had always thought that these bigfoots were crossing onto this guy's property. And I had a friend of mine, uh, he had a contact at depaul university and, uh, so we would gather these hairs and send it to this guy. We didn't tell him what it was, we just sent, sent it to him. He wanted, he wanted study, you know, extra studies, extra, extra practice. So we sent it to him and then he, uh like, responded back to us and said how are you collecting this? Are you using your hands? And at first we were. And then he says, okay, well, it's, it's human contaminated, it has human cells on it.
Speaker 2:So then we started collecting it with like, with like tweezers, and then we would put it and then send it to him. And he says it's still human contaminated. What do you? What do you use? Are you using gloves? Use, like, like a envelope. And I go, okay, so we use tweezers, we use gloves, we put it in like a envelope, we sent it to him. He says this is still human contaminated. What is the deal? So we finally told him what it was it's Bigfoot hair and he just stopped communicating with us.
Speaker 1:So every time we he stopped communicating with you because he didn't like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So he was. He got scared and he didn't want to be, he didn't want to be part of it. So, um, so, whatever we were collecting, it had human DNA in it.
Speaker 1:I don't know why, but it did so maybe it's a hybrid, like a human with an alien. It could be, I mean that could be bestiality if it's a human and an animal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause I I had, I've had stories of I've talked to people. Oh, yeah, you told me about that big penis one, I think the lady who saw that, yeah, there's, there's another one that has like a big penis in it as well I think we're the only podcast that talks about bigfoot penis. That's fine. So you want to. You want to hear that one really quick yeah yeah, okay, tell it.
Speaker 1:So there was.
Speaker 2:We want to hear about penis, for sure so there was this story of this lady uh, you know it's, it's on this, uh, bigfoot group. I, you know it's on there, but I can't really use you know her name or whatever, because it belongs to them that's fine, but but I was I was yeah, I was a part of that and like, uh, in a investigation.
Speaker 2:So it was this lady in Paris, texas. Her and her boyfriend were going down this road, and so now that road is covered with a lake down like a man-made lake. And so they were going down this road and his truck broke down. He didn't have a spare, so he had to walk into town to go get help or go get a tow or whatever. So she said I'm staying here. So she slept in the front seat and while she was asleep she said this thing came to her window, the driver's side window, grabbed her ankle and tried to pull her out and I said what was it? And she described everything. She described its nipples, its belly button and its penis, and she said it had hair everywhere.
Speaker 2:Three most important body parts yes, and so she said it probably lasted for like 30 seconds, but she said it felt like forever.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, 30 seconds in that, whatever environment, that would feel like a long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she said this thing was aroused and it was. It was trying to pull her through this this car window or this this truck window, and she had like a. This was like in the 60s, so she had this like old coke. Was she on lsd though? Uh, she was. You know, there was reports of her being on on drugs before. Okay, so there is that okay, and so she got this coke bottle and started hitting its hand with that story yeah, she started hitting with you know, you know, started hitting its its hand with it, uh, with this coke bottle.
Speaker 2:And she said, uh, these two other big footsteps stepped out of the woods and they were. She said they were both female. One of them was like pregnant, they had, they had breasts and the and One of them was pregnant. They had breasts and the one that was pregnant was yelling at the one male grabbing her.
Speaker 3:Like ah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like screaming at her and so he stopped and all three of them just walked into the woods. So we did interview her, probably about 20 years ago, and we had six questions that were all redundant. We asked her like 300 questions but six of them were. All was exactly how. She said the abrasions on her ankle and they said that she was hysterical and all this stuff. And then when we did the Freedom of Information Act with the local PD, they lost the file.
Speaker 1:Convenient.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that one was pretty intense to do that one because that's probably the most physical contact I've ever taken on a Bigfoot sighting report.
Speaker 1:And do people usually see more than one Bigfoot at a time?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Okay, I guess I didn't think that I always just thought it was a solo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, usually if you see one and they want to get you out of an area, you should always look behind you, because there's probably more, because it's probably trying to trying to get you out of this area, yeah, the family. So, uh, I've had multiple people tell me that that they've seen multiple bigfoots, and there was one, I think, my, our friend has anyone seen a baby bigfoot?
Speaker 2:yeah, there was. Uh, there was one. Was that a baby one? No, that wasn't a baby, it was a younger bigfoot. There was a story that my friend matt on his show, was talking about. Uh, this lady was in I forgot what state it was, but she was she was in a camper, her husband had gone in like in the town to go work or find work and, uh, she went out. She heard crying and she went out of her, her camper and went down to the creek and it was this. There was this little bigfoot. It was bleeding and it was hurt and it was like it looked like. She said it looked like a, like a compound fracture, a bone sticking out blood coming out and she said that this she could fear some.
Speaker 2:she could feel someone running behind her and she got down and this Bigfoot jumped right over her, jumped right over her and then his, his, her description was that she could see its penis and its balls. And so we kind of said, we kind of called that one the teabagger.
Speaker 1:I hope she had her mouth closed when she looked up.
Speaker 2:So this, this Bigfoot, jumped over her, grabbed the baby, scooped up the baby and took off running.
Speaker 1:Was there any blood left behind? Because then they could have put that on a slide.
Speaker 2:I believe so, but I don't think I don so, but I don't think she went back.
Speaker 1:Too freaked out. That's what happens. Everyone gets scared and then you can't find it.
Speaker 2:Yep, so those are some interesting stories, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is fun, though I don't want to have to have a story like that, but wow, okay, another folklore creature, the, the jersey devil. So what's the legend of jersey devil?
Speaker 2:you know, I don't. I don't know it per se like completely, but I do know there was. It was from a, the dutch immigrants and the I can't remember, I think the lady's name was raiding chicken coops, destroying crops and killing animals.
Speaker 1:I'm not a fan. Yeah, I think I think the lady's name was Leeds Raiding chicken coops, destroying crops and killing animals. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the family is. I think they're called the Leeds.
Speaker 1:Yep, the Leeds.
Speaker 2:I can't think of her first name, but she had 12 kids.
Speaker 1:She had 12 kids and then she cursed her body for being Overwhelmed by her 13th child, cursed it to be a devil yes, and supposedly it came out and it was born deformed born deformed and then flew away, supposedly yes, so that was in 1735 yes, so it's, it's, it's been all over.
Speaker 2:there's people who I've never seen any footage of any Jersey Devil, but I am so intrigued with it.
Speaker 3:That area of Jersey.
Speaker 2:It's like there's so much paranormal stuff happened there. It's just crazy.
Speaker 1:I think that if I had 13 kids, I would probably have lost my mind and needed to go to the psych ward. So you know, there's that Maybe with her 13th child her uterus also came out and that's what she thought was the devil Probably.
Speaker 2:yeah, that's pretty bad right.
Speaker 1:Do people see it? It looks like sightings are pretty rare. Yeah, it's been some time since livestock killings, but nothing really, nothing really recent 1909 um there were some sightings back then south jersey and philadelphia and it led to when they saw the jersey devil. It led to school closures, worker absences and vigilante groups trying to hunt this thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that area was I could be wrong here. I think it was like a high Protestant group maybe, so they were strongly believed in demonic stuff and they took it seriously back then.
Speaker 1:Some people think it was a sandhill crane or a kangaroo yeah, yeah, I've heard that story too, yeah that's interesting that I never heard of that at all. So that one is super interesting to me now in my in my time for, um, this is more of an urban legend, but slenderman I remember when mccoy was little he was really into slenderman and, um, I remember having to like have a really serious talk with him about it because you know, they came up with a movie.
Speaker 1:There was, I think, a video game and these girls like didn't they kill themselves for slenderman?
Speaker 2:They killed somebody.
Speaker 1:They killed somebody. Yeah, creepy, so Slenderman? Yes, very tallizing individuals, especially preys on children associated with forest and abandoned areas with abilities to teleport.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, there's this show called Paranormal Caught on Camera.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've ever watched that.
Speaker 2:It's on Travel Network and there is an episode of some kids that were in I forgot what state it was, but they were looking for Slenderman and they found a doll that was wrapped in plastic up in a tree. And then the guy turns the camera and I don't know how much this is AI or whatever, but you could see a tall person with no face and they just take off running, so I forget what it's called. It's like whenever you think about something so much and it conjures itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it says Slender man controls humans, known as proxies, does that make sense. Yeah, but with Slender man, like, right, no-transcript. There's the internet and there's the viral spread, right. And then that inspires there's fan fiction and people get obsessed with it more so than they could back then, right, because we didn't have the technology that we have now.
Speaker 2:Right, they call it creepypasta.
Speaker 1:For real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they call it creepypasta where they're, like I was telling you they.
Speaker 1:Where they get in your mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never heard of that, like there's another word for it. I can't think of it right now. It's, um, I just can't think of it where you, you conjure something in your own mind and then it becomes reality like you manifest it yeah, almost that, that way okay, so I've heard.
Speaker 2:I've heard many people like people tell me that people have always told me that because you know you're going to see what you want to see. Yeah, and people see like, like I was telling you earlier, people see orbs or they see shadow people or they see full body aberrations or they will, like, see mist. It just depends on. You know, my mom was always against me going out to go do bigfoot stuff. She was always against it. And she to go do Bigfoot stuff, she was always against it. And she had to pray for me, like before I left, all the time and she says you know I don't want you doing this, but I can't stop you.
Speaker 1:Has she come around now or is she still like a skeptical and doesn't like it?
Speaker 2:No, she's actually a big supporter of the podcast, so she listens. She's actually called into the podcast like numerous times and she knows I'm doing a show and she'll call Mom, I'm doing the podcast. Yeah, and I'll keep it recording and I go. Mom, you're on the show, she goes hey.
Speaker 1:She knows, though right, because she knows you're doing the show, and so she knows she's calling and she knows you're going to answer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's actually been on like a episode, so she's got a lot of paranormal stuff. Oh, thank you, she's got a lot. She's got a lot of paranormal.
Speaker 1:You'll have to tell me which one that is. I don't know if I haven't listened to it yet or if I just didn't know. If I don't remember, I'll send it to you. It so the shadow people.
Speaker 2:I really didn't know a lot about that, but they accompany strong feelings of intense dread or fear and they are the explanation for sleep paralysis to be a part of a paranormal group and there was some people in the group that would always lean toward demonic and there was a lot of other people who didn't. So there was always a fight between shadow people, whether it was demonic or not. I have a tendency to believe there is energies in people's houses, or if someone dies pretty bad in an area, there's energy there.
Speaker 2:It's always stored, and so whether dark entities kind of get drawn to that and then hang out there, it's possible. That's just my theory. And then there's energies of people who's passed on and they're just not ready to go yet and sometimes they're there, and so sometimes those lines get crossed, uh, like if, like, for example, someone, if someone commits suicide into an area and it's, there's a lot of energy there possible. It's possible where you can get demonic um entities attracted to it, and so. But I'm, you know, I'm completely open to lots of stuff. So I try to give people, uh, whenever I was a researcher and investigator, I try to give people all the options that was available for them. So, uh, I would always keep an open mind on, on trying to get them help and try to try to sue them as much as possible I feel like in the world we live in right, there's good people and there's bad people so I definitely believe in good spirits and bad spirits.
Speaker 1:So I mean, why would it be any difference? And just like, if you want to go back to biblical times, right, and if you want to go back to biblical times, right, and if you want to go back to angels and demons, and I mean, it's in the Bible that it was there. So it just kind of depends on what you believe in and what you want to believe. And, like you said, people can see and believe whatever they want to see and believe and that's fine. But it is fascinating to hear people's beliefs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stephen had a really. Steven had a really cause, like he was in Oklahoma city recently and he had a.
Speaker 2:he had a very interesting story. He said that, uh, he was, he was driving into town, he was in this real small town and he was driving into Walmart to go get some stuff to like to make breakfast. And he called me whenever it happened. Uh, and he was driving in town and he said he saw this vehicle. It was a two lane road, it was a vehicle passing him and he said it was an older chevy, like 50 something vehicle. He says real noticeable, because it was really nice. And he said the guy that was driving in there was, uh, he was dressed like in a suit and he was like smiling, driving the opposite way. And so he goes oh, look at that car, it's a really nice car. And so he goes oh, look at that car, it's a really nice car.
Speaker 2:And so he sees him passing. He looks at the mirror, the rear view mirror, and there's no vehicle there and there's no way it could have turned off. Anyway. He goes there was no turn off anywhere. So he says he goes, I'm freaking out right now. I said, okay, well, I go, he probably died on that road, whoever it was, and he was happy with that vehicle. So I go. We got to research that, we got to look up the newspaper, the local newspaper, to see if anybody passed there. Maybe we can come across this guy. So he had that recently so he was telling me about it and sometimes he and I will have these things happen to each other. We'll kind of consult one another and kind of get ideas off of it and stuff.
Speaker 1:Beetlejuice when I was a kid, but I never realized. The whole premise of the movie was the fact that they lived in that house, they were coming home, they died on that bridge and then I never understood all that. And then they were ghosts in their own house. And then, when I got older and I watched it again, I was like what?
Speaker 2:That is a classic movie. I love that movie a lot.
Speaker 1:I don't like that. They remade it, but anyway, I loved it as a kid and yeah, I just remember like getting older and being like I never knew that's what was going on. I just thought why are these people in their house?
Speaker 2:yeah.
Speaker 1:I miss the big picture yeah, that's actually.
Speaker 2:they follow, like all the theories on whether you know you get stuck in the house and you can't leave. It's interesting, okay.
Speaker 1:So the other thing I wanted to talk to you about was I'm trying not to watch the clock, robert, but I do Aliens. So me and Mackie were having this conversation when we were talking about Bigfoot and if he was extraterrestrial or not. But do you think that there's I don't want to say people, but creatures I don't even know the right word entities from other planets among us?
Speaker 2:You know, I think you know, I've talked to a couple. You know I've always believed that that's the first thing. I've always believed that there's entities from other planets. And then I've talked to, like many, many psychics and like some psychics can help paranormal stuff or demonic stuff. But I've heard two of them say if it's alien stuff, I can't help you, sorry, you just you just can't, you can't win there.
Speaker 2:So if you move, they'll find you. If you, if you uh move to a different state, they'll find you. If you try to hide somewhere else, they'll like find you, no matter what.
Speaker 1:So is it something like they know? The psychic people know about it, but they are too scared to say anything because they don't want to be like I think.
Speaker 2:I think there's issues I think there's issues with like time time and whether you try to help them. They can like reverse time and they haven't said that. But I've heard them say you know, you, just you can't, can't mess with them because they're almost like interdimensional. So if you, if you try to resolve it, they can change it where you didn't even like resolve it, if that even makes sense yeah, well, because, like right, maybe they're light years away yeah, so, or if it's, it could be people that are from the future coming back to check on us.
Speaker 2:Could be that you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I never thought of that, but because, yeah, they always are like, oh yeah, that's light years away, we're looking into the future. We're looking into the past or whatever, when you're looking at other planets.
Speaker 2:I mean there's there's been like people who've talked. I've talked to some people that think they've seen Bigfoots step into a portal.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know and I interviewed one guy that he said that he saw a Bigfoot like in Oklahoma and then when it crossed the road it stepped into a portal and the portal was like Arctic and it stepped in the portal and just disappeared.
Speaker 1:And the portal disappeared too.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So then I've interviewed people that said, you know, hey, this Bigfoot stepped into the woods and the woods swallowed it up. I go well, what do you mean swallowed it up? He says, well, these trees were skinny and I should have been able to see it, like through these trees, and I couldn't. It just stepped into the woods and it just disappeared. But he goes, but I could hear it, I could see it moving trees, but I couldn't see it. So I've had that. I mean, I've had that, and it's just like you know, when you try to find answers, you get more questions.
Speaker 1:Max here because we're going to do a. Would you rather now?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:We're doing a would you rather. Yeah, I thought you'd want to maybe do your old bit. Okay, I don't have one, though I do, so I'm going to ask the question, but first I want you to say hi to everybody and reintroduce yourself to the podcast.
Speaker 3:Hi, my name is Mac Dog McCoy, whatever you want to call me. I haven't been here for like a month, maybe two, but I guess I'm here, for my part, I guess.
Speaker 1:All right. So we're talking about Bigfoot and paranormal. So here's the would you rather for you and Robert, and I know what it is and I honestly don't know what I would pick.
Speaker 1:So I'm excited to see what you guys say. Would you rather spend the night in a haunted asylum or ghost, you're talking the microphone so like an old asylum, so like attacking the microphone, so like an old asylum, so like an old, abandoned like mental hospital? Okay, all right. So would you rather spend the night in a haunted asylum or go searching for Bigfoot in the woods alone?
Speaker 3:Oh, dude, I don't know, that's hard.
Speaker 1:So you used to be obsessed with wanting to spend the night in abandoned buildings and not being scared.
Speaker 3:I know If I were to do it with someone it'd be fun, but you have to do it alone. I have to do either one of them alone. Yes, I'll hunt for Bigfoot then.
Speaker 1:Bigfoot. Bob, are you hunting for Bigfoot?
Speaker 2:I've done that. I've done Bigfoot in the woods by myself. I've done it, but here, so I've done it. But you know, here's the thing about I'd rather do paranormal stuff, because then you would have a roof over your head.
Speaker 1:See, I thought about that too. But what if you get an intense headache?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just take some Tylenol.
Speaker 1:I know you can't hear it. You would just bring a bunch of Tylenol and ibuprofen with you in case you got sick, just move to a different room.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course. So when I was thinking of my answer, like first, I was like, well, I'd go in the woods because I love to be outside and I feel like pretty much, if you don't bother things, they're not going to bother you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But then I thought like, oh, if I spent the night inside, at least I would have a roof over my head and shelter, Right, but there could be rats and snakes and icky water and bacteria, or the snake at the car show. Why don't you tell the story? So I hate snakes. This is you know. This is what we do.
Speaker 1:Sidebar so we were walking around at this place the other day and I hate snakes and all of a sudden I saw this lady. She had this huge snake on her and I was like climbing up, mackie, I was like it was so funny and then I'm like don't, I don't want to go back by that lady with the snake, and it was getting dark so then you couldn't see and then we were like walking. He's like mom, there's a snake. And I'm like I just gotten mad because you just do it to piss me off it was funny, though you punched me because you're like mad, or something I did.
Speaker 1:Punch you yeah I don't. I don't like snakes either, I don't know, no, okay, do you want to say goodbye?
Speaker 3:yeah, see you later, I don't know when soon see you back in september, september okay, maybe depends on how you feel I guess I mean I, I would always do a podcast well, you want to come back?
Speaker 1:yeah, I guess yeah well, you're welcome anytime, it is your show all right, all right, bye, get out of here. Shut the door.
Speaker 2:No, don't let them in here so I, I was just gonna say, like I used to do a lot of Bigfoot stuff in the woods by myself with other people and we would get separated and say, Bob, you know you go to this creek and we'll go over here. So I used to do it all the time and so whenever I joined this paranormal group, the lady that was running it, she says I need someone to go to the attic by themselves, and I go, I'll do it. I raise my hand, I'll do it. I need someone to go to the attic by themselves and I go, I'll do it. I raise my hand, I'll do it. Bob, are you sure? I said Kendall, I've been in creek beds and, like you know areas all by myself in the woods.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just went to the attic.
Speaker 1:In the woods.
Speaker 2:No, it was a haunted house. Oh, in a haunted house.
Speaker 1:I thought you were in the woods. I'm sorry, what don't I know about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I've done stuff in the woods and then, like, whenever I was doing paranormal stuff at this house, we're investigating this house. She says I need someone to go to the attic. I said, okay, I'll go, I'll do it. She goes are you sure I go? Yeah?
Speaker 1:I've been in the woods. Mackie would pick. What did he say he would. I don't even know what he said that he wanted. I think he wanted to do the asylum no, I think he said the woods because he wouldn't do the asylum by himself oh, I see okay alright, I think that's it alright so huge.
Speaker 1:Thank you, no problem, and thanks for not disappearing back into the woods mid-episode. Don't forget to follow On Our Best Behavior on Instagram, facebook and TikTok. Just search On Our Best Behavior. And hey, if you saw a ghost while listening or think your neighbor might be a chupacabra, what's it called?
Speaker 2:Chupacabra.
Speaker 1:Chupacabra, I can't say that Send us a DM immediately. We want to hear all about it. Until next time, stay curious, stay weird and try not to be on your best behavior.
