On Our Best Behavior

Two Women, Too Many Opinions, and One Drip Stick

Kelli Szurek & Maccoy Overlie Season 4 Episode 27

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When Kelli's son Mac ditches the podcast for summer fun, she brings in the "slightly unhinged" Emily as guest co-host for an episode that careens between book recommendations, serious social commentary, and hilarious tangents.

The conversation opens with a deep dive into psychological thrillers, including "Phantom Limb" by Lucinda Berry—a novelist who draws from her experience as a child trauma psychologist. This leads to a fascinating discussion about childhood resilience and the profound impacts of early trauma. The hosts explore the complexities of mental health conditions like OCD and autism, offering thoughtful perspectives on how neurological differences affect both those diagnosed and their loved ones.

In a standout segment, Kelli delivers a passionate PSA about birth control misconceptions, emphasizing that "pulling out is Russian roulette" and that condoms, vasectomies, and tubal ligation all count as legitimate birth control methods. The conversation shifts to the complex topic of elective abortion, with both hosts expressing concerns about how political polarization has created dangerous conditions for healthcare workers.

The episode lightens up with a hilarious breakdown of newly announced Minnesota State Fair foods (mostly disappointments), debates about the meaning of "doozy," and a surprisingly practical discussion about a post-intimacy hygiene product called the "drip stick." Throughout it all, Kelli and Emily's chemistry shines as they navigate both heavy topics and lighthearted banter with equal authenticity.

Whether you're looking for book recommendations, candid conversations about reproductive health, or just want to hear two friends dissect bizarre fair foods with brutal honesty, this episode delivers with warmth, humor, and zero filter. Listen now and join the conversation by sharing your thoughts on these topics!


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Speaker 1:

Hey, hey, welcome back to On Our Best Behavior, the podcast where we try to keep it classy but usually end up in chaos. I'm your host, kelly, and guess what? Mac has officially ditched me for the summer. I guess teenage boys have better things to do than hang with their mom, rude, but I am not alone. Joining me today is my fabulous, hilarious and possibly slightly unhinged special go special guest co-host emily slightly unhinged emily's here to help me hold it together or completely derail this episode.

Speaker 1:

We'll see how it goes. We've got hot takes, weird stories and maybe even a little wisdom. No promises, buckle up, friends. This is gonna be a good one. All right, em. What's been up since we last did an episode together?

Speaker 2:

Oh, reading Saving Noah yeah, which was one of the heaviest books I've ever read. I started watching Downton Abbey for the first time.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I don't like historical, anything you don't like period, anything, so period pieces or anything.

Speaker 2:

It's very much like gilded age and I'm obsessed.

Speaker 1:

It's so good um, how come you never watched it before I?

Speaker 2:

didn't really I don't. I honestly don't know. I it came out in what I think like 2010. I never really paid attention to it. I, I think you know, back in 2010,. That was a long time ago.

Speaker 1:

You had better things to do.

Speaker 2:

I did. I mean I was at the bar partying and like things like that and like there wasn't really streaming services.

Speaker 1:

So it wasn't. There's been Netflix for a long time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I don't think I had it back then, I think.

Speaker 1:

I've been a Netflix member since like 2002. My sister used to do the mail-in one yeah, I did that too before you could stream, and then once you could stream it was a game changer.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no, I mean now that now that I can stream, that's all I can do, and when the internet's out I lose my mind.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, that's right, how long was your internet out? A whole weekend, a whole Friday, saturday.

Speaker 2:

Sunday yeah, oh, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was like a whole. Well, I guess you can still use like your did you use?

Speaker 2:

your phone as a hotspot. I did OK To hook my iPad up for a little bit and stuff like that, and then I was like, well, I'll just read, have music and podcasts on, but it was. I was like this is what my life was like a long time ago.

Speaker 1:

Did they refund you at all? I always think it's really ridiculous when they don't, because that's a long time and prime time it was a whole outage for CenturyLink.

Speaker 2:

So my coworker had the same issue in Maple Grove. I don't pay for that, so I don't know. Yeah, my she. It was. My coworker had an issue in Maple Grove. Her in-laws had an issue like it was a whole century link issue, so gross yeah, all right.

Speaker 1:

So you, you got to read saving noah. I did. Oh, and then I wanted to tell you quick about downtown abby that wendy was telling me today that in two days she finished the women by christian hannah and I'm like oh, that historical fiction bitch, I can't read that it has been one of the top books the last two years.

Speaker 1:

I go that book got a lot of hype and she goes. I loved it. She goes the story. She's like it's not like a big mystery twist, but there's like a lot of little twists and I just didn't want to stop reading.

Speaker 2:

So when I went to Endometriosis the musical, a couple weeks ago I went with my co-worker and her daughter-in-law, which that musical was absolutely amazing, super funny, super funny, very real.

Speaker 2:

Like I got a little emotional towards the end because it was just like gaslighting, gaslighting, gaslighting. And finally someone listened and like that was me, with my whole diagnosis. I was gaslit for years of like, oh, it's nothing, this is nothing, you're fine, everything's fine. And then all of a sudden Dr Noyes was like no, this is what you have. And she was right, but she's a reader too, her daughter-in-law. So we were talking and she was saying we were talking about how much we both love Kristen Hanna and she's like you have to read the Women. And I was like it's on my list. She's like, no, you haven't read it. No, not yet it's the only one that I Okay.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I swear that you've read all of her books, nightingale the Great.

Speaker 2:

Alone Four Winds, even ones that aren't that popular. I've read them Homefront.

Speaker 1:

So why not the?

Speaker 2:

women. I've heard it's really intense. Okay so, but you know, nothing beats Saving Noah from an intense level.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go. Just go to that next and you'll be fine.

Speaker 2:

I told you when I finished saving Noah that I needed a like palate cleanser, and so I'm reading the Wedding People right now. It came out like last year and it's about this woman who goes to a hotel because she wants to kill herself but it turns out that she wasn't actually supposed to be at the hotel because this bride rented out the entire hotel. But her and the bride become friends and like. It's this whole laughter and like, realizing that there's more to life than like because she was going through a divorce and all of these things.

Speaker 1:

So it's actually really good yeah, that actually seems interesting and I like it. You know me, I like one genre yeah, no, this one.

Speaker 2:

I actually really like this one.

Speaker 1:

It was a book of the month that I got a couple years or last year so, since we're on the book kick, I let me tell you all the books I've read since we last recorded you read way more than I do because I listen, so I can do so many things at one time and I really like that makes me feel more like if I read, then I feel more like productive yeah, and like your brain is focused on something, yeah and I'm really good.

Speaker 1:

Like a lot of people say they can't listen because they can't like make their brain focus on that, and I really can hone in on like in my mind I can't so I read phantom limb.

Speaker 1:

phantom limb by lucinda berry yes, I've heard that's a really good one, so good. So it's about these twin girls who were born to a mother who neglected them, would leave them like in their crib for days oh, my gosh. Only ever fed them bread and formula and they, like, tried to make pasta one day when she was gone and started the apartment on fire. And that's how they got found.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know if they were four or five, but their teeth were all rotted out because they've only ever had formula and some bread here and there.

Speaker 2:

You know, there's an actual, like real life case right now about three kids being abandoned by their mother for about seven, eight years and the. I can't remember why they got caught, but mom would drop off food every week and that was it. And like when the police went into the house, there was feces everywhere, they were sleeping on pizza boxes. All of these things never fingernails never cut like hair, never washed, there's no running water. All of these things. She neglected all three of her children. I want to say about five to seven years. It was a long time. At least she fed them, but still them.

Speaker 1:

But still yeah, well, and then like, this is right, this is fake, so this is just a story. But it talks about how, like, she never let them use the toilet, so then they ended up discovering, like, because she wouldn't let them leave their room oh. So then they would like they found like some bucket or something to be able to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1:

And because they would sit in the potty train themselves, because their diapers would just be, they'd sit in it which is scary, because lucinda berry writes novels based off of her experience as a child trauma psychologist, but can you imagine the child abuse and neglect that you see? I can't. I can never work in that field it's fascinating for me to read, but I cannot imagine like number one. As a mom, I could not imagine ever treating a child like that.

Speaker 2:

I could never imagine being a child like that nope it, it is the worst form of inhumane punishment. Like it is, it is. Oh gosh, it's to think about is just gross, it's so gross, but at the same time it's still gross.

Speaker 1:

But then we were talking about um, how like the human species is like the weakest species ever. Yep, big giraffes will be born and they can like walk within minutes of being born. Yeah, they just get up and walk and and they you know the moms take care of them for like the minimum, and then they're like you're on your own, yeah, and I mean cats and dogs are so dependent too, we are so dependent and I don't know, weak, fragile, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

The human race isn't? I don't know if it's because we're so enabled, but in that situation, when you have to survive, these kids do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they really do. They become very resilient in the worst of times, but they also right.

Speaker 1:

They don't know how to love Nope. They don't know how to care. They don't know how to socialize, they don't. They don't know how to live.

Speaker 2:

And that's the thing too, and that's what's scary about all of it, is how resilient they are, but at the end of the day, just being a human being, they don't know how to just do normal things, so know how to just do normal things.

Speaker 1:

so this book goes on to talk about how they pretty much need each other okay to survive, yeah, oh, especially there are they twins.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a whole other connection that I mean we can't speak on by any means, but yeah and the mom would like let men in their room for money okay, oh yeah, so it talks, about how they deal with that I'm gonna. I'm gonna need a while before I can read that yeah so just a heads up.

Speaker 1:

I mean, what's trigger?

Speaker 1:

trigger warning okay, this is an old book, also movie. Uh, have you ever heard of this? Because I didn't turtles all the way down, no, okay. So this girl this is not like a thriller at all, but this girl has OCD, okay, um, and it just kind of go. So I ended up wanting to watch the.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how I even found the book, but sometimes I like mental health situations. So, anyway, this girl, her dad dies, she already had OCD then he really did well with helping her with her OCD and her mom always like, struggled to understand it. Okay, uh, so it's kind of talking about, talking about and showing like how she deals with things and she's got a best friend who is very aware and supportive of her disorder, yeah, and then, like they can there's like one another, an adventure that happens and like whatever a guy that comes along and it's just very interesting to see how her diagnosis and she's very aware of it uh, how it affects her life, those are such and how it affects everyone around her life yeah, those types of books, documentaries, things like that.

Speaker 2:

It's so fascinating, like I am so engulfed in like mental health and how important it is and having things like OCD or even anxiety, depression, and how it can just affect your daily life every single day and it does, it consumes this girl. Yeah, I mean as someone who struggles with anxiety and depression. There are times where it just consumes me and I can't think about anything else except for the bad stuff. And I I know OCD is really scary and this.

Speaker 1:

It also really shines a light on how she has OCD and so that's all she can focus on. Is her OCD right? And then the people in her life. They understand that and they support that. But there's a point in the story where they try to show her like you are so selfish because all you can think about is the things that you're obsessively composed about.

Speaker 2:

It's almost. You know. I sometimes see autism being a similar thing, where you know they can't under. You know autistic people struggle with social cues and having a filter and things like that.

Speaker 2:

And if you're with someone who is autistic, you know some people that I know are married to an autistic person and it can get so frustrating but like it's their autism and it's like they say things that are hurtful but their intention is not to be hurtful. It's just they can't filter it, like they physically don't know how they're not deliberately being mean and in the tone that they say it in, not intentionally to be in a wrong tone or whatever the case may be. And as someone who doesn't have autism has very little experience with it, my immediate brain is like why are they treating this person like this? Why are they treating their loved one like this? And I have to sit back and think like their brain does not work the way that someone else's brain is, and I have to remember that, like when I'm hearing these stories and stuff, I'm just like oh they're so mean.

Speaker 2:

How do you put up with it? That's my immediate thought and I'm like wait, no, okay. No, they are a human.

Speaker 1:

Their brain works in a different way than mine and I have to remember that that is tough and people don't walk around with a sign that says like I have ocd, yeah, I have autism, yep, I have personality disorder, yeah, so you don't. You don't know.

Speaker 2:

Invisible diseases are so real and they have such a stigma, because just because you physically can't see that there's something going on, doesn't mean that there's not something going on however, like I mean this in the kindest kind, most kind way Stereotypes are a stereotype for a reason.

Speaker 1:

So if somebody is rude, like, you just think they're rude, and then if you find out like it's because they have A, b or C, yep, Then it's like, oh well, all people, like all people that have that are rude, yep, yeah, even though that's not the intention.

Speaker 2:

That's not the intention.

Speaker 1:

It's hard to over, even though that's not the intention that's not the intention.

Speaker 2:

It's hard to over, it's hard for that to be overcame. Yeah, especially when we have like a neurotypical mindset. You know, I think that's part of it too is having a neurotypical mindset. You're always like, well, you can get over that, or you know you can not be that way and it's like I can, can they? I genuinely don't think they can. I, I genuinely don't think they can. I don't think their brain allows them to have the skills to be better in certain aspects.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's the thing. Like brains are, so everyone's brain is different so complex, and different people can utilize different parts of their brain and not others, and there's just so much. It's so complex.

Speaker 2:

Like I can never use the creativity or artistic side of my brain.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you can. You build Legos. You craft Following directions. Use the creativity or artistic side of my brain. Yes, you can you build legos. Can you craft following directions? I can't do that. I don't have the patience for it.

Speaker 2:

it's the one time it shuts my add off, but we'll see.

Speaker 1:

I follow directions mackie is good at that too, like if you give him very specific like building furniture and things like that and mackie's really good at that.

Speaker 1:

Like we need to do that together because I have the logical brain and he has the or maybe it's he has the like he can see things from a different way than I can see them, if that makes sense. Yeah, okay, have you read this one, the surrogate mother, by frida frida mcfadden? No, I have it, though. Good, I just finished it and, and it's good, okay, but same situation where this lady, oh, no, no, no, no, this is the next book. So anyway, yeah, it's good, you can kind of Clearly somebody wants to get pregnant and they can't.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and then kind of Okay.

Speaker 1:

Somebody ends up being a surrogate for them, and then it's a Frida twist. So something happens.

Speaker 2:

It. I mean, I love a good Frida story.

Speaker 1:

And Frida never fails, in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

You haven't read the Third Housewife. I haven't.

Speaker 1:

But I don't count that because it's a sequel.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's part of a series and it just it was. Yeah, it was disappointing.

Speaker 1:

But did you know that Frida McFadden is a doctor? She's a neurosurgeon. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:

Somebody just told me at work this week all bad.

Speaker 1:

Somebody just told me at work this week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's an, I think, neurosurgeon. Yeah, some kind of in new york, yeah. So I wonder if frida's got it. Frida mcfadden's cannot be her real name, like she wouldn't have this.

Speaker 1:

She looks like a frida. Have you seen what she looks like?

Speaker 2:

yeah, she does. She's got like short black brown hair, dark brown hair with glasses, and stuff like that, and she also looks like a neural something or another. Yeah, yeah, as someone who works with a lot of neurologists, she kind of does have that look, you know, I've been told by some people that I work with, like you, have to be a little neurotic and crazy to be a neurologist.

Speaker 1:

I always say that about surgeons Like you. Have to be a little psycho to cut people open.

Speaker 2:

You have to be narcissistic to be a surgeon, Like that is 100% it and I'm like, okay, if Frida writes the twisted messed up stuff that she does, that explains how she is a neurosurgeon, or I want to say it's neurosurgeon.

Speaker 1:

And I also wonder, like I mean clearly like the stories that she writes aren't what she deals with as a doctor, but I'm sure, like some of the brain stuff that she writes about, oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

OK, so the last book that I've read that I just finished is called Imaginary Strangers. This is another one of my favorite writers, minka Kent. Have you ever heard of her? She writes really good books. No, uh-uh. So this book is about a woman who is a sociopath, who had a traumatic childhood. Her mom tried to auction off her virginity oh my God. And then, when she refused to do it because she was like 17, the mom's like well, you can have half of the money, so whatever. So like, really fucked up. Childhood made her a sociopath.

Speaker 1:

Now she she gets married to this like super successful doctor. Yeah, has two kids of her own, vows to never be a bad mom, never treat them poorly. Even though she struggles with love she has like the acting down pat yep big twist.

Speaker 2:

Yep, she's terrified of her mom, because her mom is still alive interesting so she's always afraid her mom is gonna find her oh, like she, her mom doesn't know that she where she lives, or anything like that.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

All right, so I got some heavy topics, uh-oh. First of all, lightheartedly but serious, this is my PSA for the podcast. Okay, vasectomy, condoms and having your tubes tied counts as birth control, sure, does People say all the time. When I say, do you use any method of birth control, they say no. I'm like, do you use condoms? Oh, yeah, sometimes, or every time. Every time, do you use any method of birth control? No, condoms? Well, no, I don't need to. My husband had a vasectomy. Oh my gosh. Do you use any method of birth control? No, why? Why would I need birth control? Well, you're only 38? Yeah, but I had my tubes tied five years ago. That that's birth control. That is your birth control method.

Speaker 2:

People is not just control method. People, Birth control is not just a pill. We need to know.

Speaker 1:

It's not just an IUD. Not just a pill, when you tell me when I say, what method of birth control do you use, and you say, oh, he pulls out and jizzes on my tummy. That is not an effective birth control.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I just it's a scary time for people to not understand that it's scary.

Speaker 1:

Birth control is a method. This generation is scary.

Speaker 2:

It is a method. A method To prevent babies. Yeah, not a pill implant or pulling out.

Speaker 1:

Or a shot, or a shot. Pulling out is not a method. That's Russian roulette. That is, that is, you're playing. That's russian roulette. That is, that is, you're playing with fire, russian roulette. Yep, because also psa for you people who don't know there's this thing called pre-cum. Yep, the pre-drip is really saturated and there are some with swimmers, strong swimmers. So if you think he pulled out in time, nope, he got some dribble in there, promise. How do you think mackie was born? No, just kidding. Just kidding, he was immaculate conception, okay. So what I really want to talk about? What about your sisters? Though they came first, they were immaculate conceptions too okay, never wow, I didn't know.

Speaker 1:

Your family was so holy. Jesus came down. Jesus came down. Jesus came down. You missed our sidebar conversation about Jesus. So what I want to talk about is elective abortion, Mm-hmm, Okay. So I had a situation come up and I'm going to be really vague about it and I was like I believe in elective abortion. I think that you should be able to have an abortion as long as you don't use it as a birth control method. If you have had 10 abortions and you don't care if you get pregnant again with a number 11, because you're just going to have an abortion, I don't think that's healthy.

Speaker 2:

That's irresponsible as a human being it is.

Speaker 1:

It is Now. If you something happened and you need to have one abortion, I get it. Two abortions, Shit happens, but after that you should really get it figured out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think there's also situational. Yeah, there's situational. There's miscarriages and things like that.

Speaker 1:

Like a DNC is an abortion and, in a way, it can be like against what you wanted, though, because that is from a miscarriage. You could have a dnc, yep, yep. So I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking about elective just elective, yeah, just elective okay, so I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1:

Do I want to be able to help people with a termination if they want one? I do do. But I'm so scared with the political world because the things that happened in Brooklyn Park and Champlain People. I'm for the government. I'm not saying that I stand for what the government is now, that I do or that I don't. But the government is there for a reason and I think it's great that we live in the United States and it's a free country. But I don't think it's okay that if you disagree with the government, you're going to go and shoot someone. You can just take matters into your own hands and decide I don't like what you stand for. I don't like what you stand for, I don't like what you did at work and I don't like your kid, so I'm going to come to your house and impose as a cop and kill all of you.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that that's fair, that that has to affect the decisions that we make in society to help people, because you feel like you're putting your life in danger, because if you do help, it could be public information, because your name is attached to said medical record and that's scary in and of itself. I mean, yeah, it shouldn't be this way, like that's my thing is. It shouldn't be this way. Whatever you want to do with your body is your choice. Do I personally believe if you have 10 abortions, do I think you need to do something better about your life and what you're doing? Yeah, I do, but I can't control that.

Speaker 1:

I'm not God, I don't get it. I can judge you, but it doesn't matter what I think.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and just you know, if I have different views than someone like it, it have different views than someone like it. The political world now has created such a divide that it's one way or another and it's love or hate. And if you're not on my side then I absolutely hate you. And like the agendas are so negative now and like when you had approached me with this topic a couple weeks ago, you know I think you're damned if you do, damned if you don't, and you know it could be the same thing with medications or vaccines or things like that, Like your name's attached to it too, and people are just absolutely insane, For real, unhinged, Unhinged.

Speaker 1:

For real. And it's getting worse. Not unhinged like us, for real unhinged. Unhinged For real. And it's getting worse. Not unhinged like us, for real unhinged.

Speaker 2:

They're not holding back anymore. I would say 5, 10, 15 years ago, unhinged people would hold back a little more. Now that type of behavior is more acceptable and more excused.

Speaker 1:

I would say Forgiven or excuses for it. Yep, I just something needs to change.

Speaker 2:

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I completely agree, and I'm not saying presidency wise, because this has happened regardless if it's a Republican president or a Democratic, it doesn't matter because somebody's always pissed right Correct. So how are you better and how are you political when both sides are doing the same thing?

Speaker 2:

yep, yeah, no, I, absolutely, and it's I. I find it frustrating that, like that, your name would be attached to and that that would be my concern. So if I was, if I had to be part of something like that, and I'm not saying I do or I don't, or I will or I won't.

Speaker 1:

But let's say somebody gets an elective termination, yeah, and they don't tell their partner because it's their body, it's their choice, yep. And then their partner finds out, finds some paper laying around and your name is on it. Printed on the patient plan, they decide that it's not their partner's fault. You did this, yep, you did this to their partner and to their baby.

Speaker 2:

And then they look you up. I mean, yeah, they make a decision, like you know what you killed my baby, I'm gonna kill yours.

Speaker 1:

And you just don't.

Speaker 2:

You can't trust anybody I don't trust a single soul anymore. I, I, it's. It's scary, it's so scary. The when the brook, brooklyn Park and Champlin murders happened and attempted murders happened like it was. It's 15 minutes from where we live. I was petrified Backyard yeah, petrified, like I almost backed out of wanting to go to Caleb's birthday party because I was like I'm afraid someone's going to jump up on my back, my my porch and like try to get in. Like I, it's. It was very terrifying for the 36, 48 hours that it was until they found them and you just never know how people are going to react to anything.

Speaker 1:

This goes back to not knowing the kind. You know, know we were talking about sociopaths and how like the statistics are, one out of 25 people are sociopaths and you don't know, and you definitely work with or go to school with 25 to 50 people and therefore at least one to two of them are sociopaths and they hide it and you don't know, and there's you could be married to somebody and you have no idea what they might've done in their life.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, that's a really big I mean just given saving noah that we just read like it really makes you think and I have a hard time trusting people on a day-to-day like. But the people that I trust are like my core people. But there still could be something that you don't know, you and I could be completely hiding these biggest secrets, and we've known each other for almost 20 years. Like we, there's.

Speaker 1:

I don't have anything, I don't either.

Speaker 2:

I mean I don't either I, but yeah hypothetically it could like you know it it.

Speaker 1:

Just something happened a long time ago where I worked with. I don't work there anymore, but I worked with somebody and she was telling me that. She started by saying, like what would you do if you found out your partner did something really bad? Would you stay with them or would you leave them? And I'm like, well, it depends on what really bad was. Well, it ended up that her sister-in-law was dating this guy who she somehow found out, or it came up, or he told her because he didn't want her to find out. I can't remember the context, but he was a registered sex offender, but the situation was like he was 19 and she was 16 and it was like a sad whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Statutory rate.

Speaker 1:

Statutory yeah, that's sad, not Sagittarius, yes, yeah, so I'm like. Well, I feel like depends on the context, right?

Speaker 2:

I just, yeah, I. The thing is is in a lot of these situations it's it's dependent on the context, and I don't think context is always taken seriously and I think it's just the way our world is is like they're like it has to be black and white, and I'm like it can't be, like I struggled for so long in my life because I was like it needs to be black and white. There is no gray area and I and I think in the world that I work in now, I at first was like it has to be one way and I'm like no, it can't, because it's dependent per patient, it's dependent on per study. You know all of these things and it really taught me that like you have to live in the gray area. There's so many variables and you can't make a drastic decision without knowing the facts. And I think there's three sides to every story your side, their side and the truth. And there's got to be some way to find all of that out and it's yeah, nothing is ever linear in black and white ever.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so now the big thing going on is like that flooding that happened in. Texas oh yeah, and so many kids died oh, it's awful. So did you hear about the pediatrician that said it's their fault because of how they voted?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I did, and I strongly disagree with number one.

Speaker 1:

Their kids didn't vote and they're like well, their parents did it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter. Kids died, like I know, like. Do I agree with how Texas is politically? No, I don't. But doesn't matter. That does not affect my view on the situation, because these innocent people died, and so many little kids. So many little kids and it is so heartbreaking Heartbreaking it is kids and it is so heartbreaking heartbreaking it is I there were. I think there was a sibling, a pair of siblings that were found on a tree alive, and I was like, oh they were.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, my god like they were just kind of hovering alive, but so many of them, like, were found holding hands dead or somebody was holding somebody and couldn't hang on anymore, like, and then you survived, like the trauma, like to survive that, the trauma you experienced and to die, and those parents, I can't even fathom.

Speaker 2:

No, it's heartless. No person should have to endure things like that, no child especially. And there's no politics in a tragedy like that.

Speaker 1:

Well, they said there's cloud seeding. Did you hear about that? There's cloud seeding. Did you hear about that? What's cloud seeding? Cloud seeding is where the government, oh, seeds the clouds yeah, so that there's a massive flood and then it kills people. Yeah, I've heard our government is that intelligent I've.

Speaker 2:

I've heard them say that and, like when the the hurricane in North Carolina hit last year, they were like well, biden planted that hurricane. And I'm like the hell he did.

Speaker 1:

Why are you giving these people that?

Speaker 2:

Why don't give any Like what you cannot. No, he did not plant a hurricane. No one planted a hurricane and no one planted floods. Biden doesn't even know what day it is.

Speaker 1:

He can't plant a hurricane and no one planted floods.

Speaker 2:

Biden doesn't even know what day it is, he can't plant a hurricane. No, no, like, come on, just be real. That's the thing is. I think the people are not realistic anymore. They have the idea of what reality is and what reality actually is like. What they think it is and what it really is are two different things. I think we've gone way off the deep end of yeah, taking things into your own hands, understanding what people actually are like and how they live their day-to-day lives.

Speaker 1:

That's light in the mood. Okay, have you heard of a drip stick, heard of a urine stick, okay, so my next question, before we talk about a drip stick, is leggings with or without underwear?

Speaker 2:

nine times out of ten with underwear, but if I'm lazy without underwear, I disagree, disagree.

Speaker 1:

I say 10 out of 10,. No underwear ever, because you get lines.

Speaker 2:

And number two I wear underwear that does not give me lines. That's not true.

Speaker 1:

Seamless underwear have seams and leggings come with a little underwear triangle in them. So we were talking about this, yeah, and somebody was like I have to wear underwear Because of she's like she says when are my juices gonna go?

Speaker 2:

That's my question.

Speaker 1:

And I said Well, when you get a little bit older, you won't have as much juices. And and her biggest concern is like what if I just had sex and he went inside of me? And then there's that drippage and I said oh, you just put a tampon in and she's like. That's the most genius thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2:

I never thought about that until you told me that and I was like what? Yeah, because it soaks all the shit out and then an hour later you pull it out, you're clean that's my biggest thing is like I feel like you can smell something, even though I know you can't, but I have such a paranoia if I'm not wearing underwear that you can smell, you think, do you?

Speaker 2:

have odor shield underwear no, but like I always, you know, my brain's like there's an extra layer of protection, okay, of of shielding it, or something like that.

Speaker 1:

I will tell you. If you have an odor I know you will I will tell you and I've never, ever noticed that in my life. I'm here to tell you. Emily's vagina has no foul odor and I also hope you would tell me the same.

Speaker 2:

If I did, I would, I had a boss years ago I'll tell you offline who it was that had a um horrible odor all the time. It was so gross, yeah, that I think I'm scarred from that.

Speaker 1:

We call it the positive whiff test. Oh, um, but I have I I have um heard some stories of some doctors who have been out to dinner or out to lunch and they are like oh, that waitress has BV, and they've jokingly been like well, you should just write her a prescription for her tip. Oh, that is so sad, oh God. But if somebody smells down there, tell them.

Speaker 2:

Like if they underway, Tell them in the nicest way If they're sticking out or you know, yes, tell me.

Speaker 1:

Just be a girl's. Girl just tell me yeah, be a girl's.

Speaker 2:

I first thought that you said be a gross girl, girls, girl be. Yeah, be a bro. Yeah, come on. If my boobs sticking out, let me know. Like tell me these things.

Speaker 1:

The drip stick was invented for that. Oh so, you don't, it's not, it's not like it, it's like a tampon. But it's not a tampon. You don't put it in and leave it in. You insert it and then you twist it around and it collects all the debris, okay, and then you pull it out and throw it away oh, I like that.

Speaker 1:

They say not for the bum. Oh, there's like a warning on the on the package that says has a picture of a butt with an X on it and it says not for the bum.

Speaker 2:

I mean yeah, no, oh, I mean that's kind of a good invention. Like I don't think guys realize how like after sex, how like they have it easy they do, they just wipe and done and I'm like this shit lasts for hours Like.

Speaker 1:

However, I wouldn't want to lick a vagina that just wipe and done and I'm like this shit lasts for hours. However, I wouldn't want to lick a vagina. That's hard for them.

Speaker 2:

That's the only hard thing they have to deal with. Yeah, I give them props for that, but yeah, for us it lasts a long time. I'm like come on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, all right On my radar TV shows that I want to watch, okay, so I don't know. Tell me if you've heard of these or seen any of these. Okay, we Were Liars is on Prime right now. Have not seen it.

Speaker 2:

It's a book. Heard good things about it. Have the book, have not read it, okay.

Speaker 1:

I want to Okay the Summer I Turned Pretty.

Speaker 2:

I've heard of the book. I've never read it. I've never seen the show. It's too rom-com-y for me. Like that's not my genre of book. It's supposed to be.

Speaker 1:

It's not supposed to be rom-com-y.

Speaker 2:

See, and I've heard that it is.

Speaker 1:

It's supposed to be like dealing with grief because one of the moms is sick. Oh of the moms is sick. Oh, I don't know if I can watch that yet. Okay, you have to watch it first. All right, I'll let you know. Monster season three ed gein. Did you watch any of the monsters? Never heard of it. It's on netflix, okay, uh, season one was jeffrey dahmer oh season two, yes, yes, yes, I watched the jeffrey dahmer with that.

Speaker 2:

Was it the zach efron played it, or I?

Speaker 1:

can't remember no no, no anyway, season one is Jeffrey Dahmer. Season two is the brothers that killed their parents.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the Mendez brothers, the Mendez brothers.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep. So season three is Ed Gein. Oh, which is like the gruesomest dude ever yes.

Speaker 2:

And I was thinking Zac Efron played Ted Bundy. Oh, Ted Bundy. Yeah, it was the movie.

Speaker 1:

And then they're doing a season four. Lizzie Borden, Do you know who?

Speaker 2:

she is.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who she is she's from Massachusetts, and she killed her dad and stepmom with an axe.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the Ted Bundy one, or not Ted Bundy one?

Speaker 1:

Jeffrey Dahmer, one Chills, chills. They did a really good job on the guy who played him. Absolutely insane, see, and I thought dommer on netflix, like that guy, was a yes, that one too. That was a good dommer too. What's on? You have anything on your radar for shows? I'm still watching animal kingdom, still watching dexter. Oh yeah, mackey's still watching prison break dexter will be forever.

Speaker 2:

Um, downton abbey has been my big one. I've been re-watching brooklyn 99. It's funny, such a funny show. Um, and then it's baseball season, so I have a lot of baseball on. And then, yeah, home run derby is next week, so it's one of my favorite sports days of the year I know nothing about it, I know I know, so give me a quick.

Speaker 2:

Oh the home. So it's all-star break, so they do a home run derby where it's kind of a matchup of players who have oh, it's like the all-star basketball when they do like the dunk contest and stuff like that. So they do the home run derby the day before, okay, and so there's. You know, they pick a bunch of people, pick a bunch of players from this season who have done really well and historically have done really well with like home runs and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

byron buxton from the twins is gonna be there, so they put everyone on a team who's like good at hitting homers yeah, they pick.

Speaker 2:

I think it's like 16 players throughout all mlb, mlb 12 or 16, it's. It's a bigger number and then they have a time, they're timed to see how many home runs they can get within that time period, and then also, they're just hitting, hitting, hitting yeah.

Speaker 2:

So one person will hit and then the other person will go. They'll go against it. Whoever has the most in that round goes to the next round, and so on and so forth until there's one winner. Ok, I don't know, that sounds fun. I can't. That's televised. Yeah yeah, I can't explain that's televised. Yeah yeah, I can't explain why I love it so much, but it's always been one of my favorite things to watch.

Speaker 1:

I think it's fun because it's like all the great stuff about baseball without all the waiting around.

Speaker 2:

Right, I do have to say I do like the pitch clock because it makes the games go by a lot faster.

Speaker 1:

So glad they came up with that. Yeah, anything else on your radar? No, um, no, not really okay. I have two words that I didn't either know what they meant, okay, or I didn't know what they meant, like I was using them in the wrong context. So I want to know if you've ever heard this if somebody is a show-off, what do you call them?

Speaker 2:

a tammy topper oh, I never heard of that. That's kind of like a one-upper okay so who's tammy? Topper. I mean, that's just a name. I call them yeah, saying yeah, if you're a show-off, I kind of think you're a tammy topper.

Speaker 1:

Where you're a one-upper, it's like you're a negative nancy yeah okay, yeah, so did like your parents grow up saying that or no, I don't you just made it up on your own.

Speaker 2:

No, no it's, someone else said it, and, like Tammy and Tommy Toppers, like you know, if you're a one-upper of like, hey, I went to Mexico. Well, I went to Mexico and stayed in this private resort and then I went here and did this and, da-da-da-da, the one-uppers To me, like they're showing off, they're bragging.

Speaker 1:

Okay, no, okay, thank you okay, that's like what.

Speaker 2:

What was the phrase your son said a couple years ago and I was like what the hell is this like? It was a new phrase that he it would.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure he said it 500 bajillion times.

Speaker 2:

He sure did I think it was when we were in beef barley.

Speaker 1:

I remember, oh my god no, the 7-eleven one.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, did that go? Something about a super slurp. Something a super slurp. I want the big gulp, the big gulp.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, super slurp something, something. Okay, if something is a doozy, what is it?

Speaker 2:

Like a big of like whew, that was a doozy. Like that was a rough, or you know a rough moment. Or like if I'm you know I don't work out but like if I was working out and I was like, whew, that was a doozy, it was a hard workout, it was a little tough. Or you know, at work, like, ooh, that was a doozy of a meeting, that was kind of a struggle or something like that. That's how I interpret it.

Speaker 1:

So me too, I always I associate doozy with like a negative thing like oh that was bad or that didn't go well, yeah, but it can be really great, good or really bad, really, yeah. So doozy can be like something like extravagantly great and I never knew that no, because I googled it.

Speaker 2:

I always use a different, like um, what is the word for it?

Speaker 1:

don't you hate that when you're trying?

Speaker 2:

to think of it I'm having. It starts with an.

Speaker 1:

A so doozy, something outstanding or unique of its kind, huh, which to me sounds positive. Yeah, but then, like the sentence that they use is it's going to be a doozy of a black eye, which is negative, right? Yeah, it's going to be really bad black eye, yeah, but when I hear something outstanding, or unique, like that sounds great adjective.

Speaker 2:

I usually use a more positive sounding adjective like my head doozy sounds negative like yeah so it oh to take a doozy.

Speaker 1:

That so it's saying like I. That's a negative thing for me, but it says doozy can be described both good and bad, so anyway, I mean there I feel like there are other words, like I just don't see it. I just don't see it described in any positive way. Roller coaster can offer a doozy of a ride. Yeah, that sounds like a bad ride. I mean I have a doozy of a dilemma like that sounds like a bad thing I don't understand where it's positive no, I don't either yeah, no, I'm well.

Speaker 2:

I had a doozy of a poop that could be positive.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I always know it's a see a doozy. Does that mean like not a lot came out or a lot came out to?

Speaker 2:

me. I would think I would put it in like oh, that was a lot okay, see, I would say, a doozy was like I that was going to be a lot and then not much came out. So I'm still backed up Spending more than like three minutes on the on the toilet.

Speaker 1:

I remember. No, I don't, I'm, it's gotta be. I have to be in labor pain to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2:

I remember when we worked at Vault Take Care, the colorectal doctor was like if you have to read a newspaper, magazine or a book on the toilet. You're on there too long. Get off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't want to rectocele. Yeah, that's true. When I have to push, I'm like no, I don't want to push my anus right out the butthole.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

God, I don't want to do it, don't push.

Speaker 2:

Let it come no.

Speaker 1:

No, no, god, do you have anything else that you want to talk about?

Speaker 2:

The new state fair foods. Oh yeah, I did, I did.

Speaker 1:

I'm not impressed. Never, I'm never impressed.

Speaker 2:

Like staples. Sometimes I'm a little intrigued, like the tater tot hot dog from Lulu's a couple of years ago, you know, like when they started. The cheese cart taco is like that's kind of a cool idea. All of these things, I'm like nothing.

Speaker 1:

even the drinks, nothing I didn't look at the drinks, yet nothing sounds.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say usually the drinks are more intriguing than the food, but a pickle drink, I think I saw gross. Yeah, I just kind of no I just I glanced over them because I was like this is really disappointing.

Speaker 1:

This is really disappointing this year and nothing's on a stick really they have some weird things that they say are like on a stick but it's it's not for real they're using that in such a loose term now, whereas, like 15 years ago, everything was on a stick.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you remember a fudge puppy?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I was gonna say why don't they bring that motherfucker? Oh, that was. Why don't they? I have an idea bring the fudge puppy, bring the good shit back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't need like all this veggies and stuff.

Speaker 1:

So here's the thing. Yeah, I'm not like an ethnic food person. I don't want to spend $18 on something I don't know if I'm going to like it. Fair enough. So Afro bean pops no, not doing deep fried bites of ground black eyed peas, onions, jalapeno and cilantro Not my thing.

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing it sounds healthy. We are at the Minnesota State Fair. You don't eat healthy there.

Speaker 1:

I know you can't see this, but that doesn't even look good or healthy. No, that looks like they look like meat. Looks like some chicken poops in my backyard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Kind of looks like the taco meat from high school.

Speaker 1:

That looks like turds, oh God, and they'd scoop it out with like an ice cream scoop. Yeah, exactly that is exactly what that looks like. Ok, whipped feta? No, thank you that sounds.

Speaker 2:

That kind of sounds good to me because I love feta and I love Greek food. So, like whipped feta with some pita chips, I would do that one. That one was one of the only ones where I was like, okay, but that's not something I would gravitate towards at the state fair I would gravitate towards it.

Speaker 1:

At a restaurant, if you got this and said, hey, do you want to try it? I'd say no, thanks, yeah, and that's fair enough.

Speaker 2:

But again, it's not fair food.

Speaker 1:

It is restaurant food. O'gara's, a few years ago, came out with deep fried avocados and I really, really liked those and they didn't last. So that's the thing is every once in a blue moon, something great comes and it doesn't last. Okay, birthday cake cookie dough on a stick.

Speaker 2:

I don't like cookie dough Me either. That's not my jam I don't like birthday cake batter.

Speaker 1:

I don't like cookie dough Nope, it looks cute, but I'm not eating that. I had Dippin' it, but I'm not.

Speaker 2:

I have I'm not eating that. I had dip and dots last night at the twins game. Oh I love those. Tried banana split for the first time I don't like banana.

Speaker 1:

I can't do fake. It was not very banana, I only do chocolate mint?

Speaker 2:

they didn't have chocolate mint, they had cookies and cream. Rainbow sherbert um brownie, chocolate brownie something, or banana split. No, then I wouldn't even get it. Oh, the salmon. I both were like that's actually really good what's the so?

Speaker 1:

it's banana. And what's the other flavor? Strawberry and chocolate.

Speaker 2:

Oh so it's like, no, it's, it's like napoleon vanilla so it's napoleon with plus banana, and the banana is not that strong. I thought it would be a lot stronger okay, these actually.

Speaker 1:

Well, it would be good, but I don't like gelato. If it was ice cream I could do this. Is it the nacho things? The cannoli gelato?

Speaker 2:

nachos yeah, that wouldn't be bad. I mean, I love a cannoli. Go to Cassetta's and give me a cannoli.

Speaker 1:

But I don't like the shit that's in the cannoli.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's ricotta yeah.

Speaker 1:

No, it's like Mascarpone.

Speaker 2:

It's like cream cheese-ish.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's Marks Capone, if I remember right, caprice curds.

Speaker 2:

You know me, I don't like soft cheese. I mean they're deep. It's cheese curds with balsamic glaze on them. It's not that exciting. Just give me the regular mouth-trap cheese curds. Why would you not get those? Do I love balsamic glaze? Yeah, but not on a fried cheese.

Speaker 1:

Put it on some fresh mozzarella. This looks good, but I wouldn't get it at the fair Cherry Bigfoot limeade. Bigfoot Bob might like it. Yeah, all right. Chicken fried bacon fries no, who likes chicken fried anything that much? No, chicken fried chicken and chicken fried steak no, no one gets that.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean, I know I have a friend who loves a good chicken fried steak, nicole, oh, I'm like, does she oh?

Speaker 1:

yeah, well, that's an ethnic thing, that is. That is her jam sinna sugar crust tidbits.

Speaker 2:

I can make that at home for a quarter of the price I could isn't it like just pie dough yeah freshly baked.

Speaker 1:

I could, you could buy the pot the like just pie dough, yeah, freshly baked.

Speaker 2:

You could buy the Pillsbury pie crust. I literally have pre-made pie dough in my fridge right now.

Speaker 1:

Cut it in strips and it's covered in cinnamon and sugar. Oh, whiskey flavored caramel dipping sauce.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I can make that at home too. I got whiskey.

Speaker 1:

And whipped cream.

Speaker 2:

And sugar. Caramel sauce is literally sugar and water. Bring to a boil until it gets to a certain color. Sugar and water. Bring to a boil until it gets to a certain color.

Speaker 1:

Sounds great, then I can put some whiskey in it myself. You can skip that. I don't need that.

Speaker 2:

I will make it myself. I just want the caramel.

Speaker 1:

So if you got these and you said, hey, do you want to try one? Yeah, I would, but I wouldn't order it.

Speaker 2:

But I'm not paying $15 for something I can make for you at home.

Speaker 1:

What's a croffle cloud? What is that? Croissant pressed in a waffle iron and topped with fresh whipped sweet cream, a drizzle of fruit puree and a cloud of cotton candy. I'm out. I don't like cotton candy.

Speaker 2:

I could also just buy croissants and put them in the waffle maker at home.

Speaker 1:

So they have banana caramel. You might be into that flavor, now that you like the banana.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I could again make it at home Deep fried tofuego bites.

Speaker 1:

It's tofu, yeah, yeah. So it's deep fried tofu that's spicy I do appreciate vegetarian options I do, yes, I do have a few vegetarians in my life.

Speaker 2:

Um, I do appreciate that. Just it's not my jam dill pickle iced tea yes, hard, no, hard no I love pickle flavored things, not to drink, to eat. I like pickle juice. Yeah, I like pickle juice as a chaser when I do a tequila shot.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'll just drink it out of the jar before I throw it away yeah, not like all in one setting but like I'll save it so I can like take a swig here and there, all right. What's a falafel? It's a falafel which is a middle eastern fritter of chickpeas and herbs Yep, which I am glad we do have a very diverse state, so I am glad that they have a lot of offerings of this, but it's just not for me, Not my jam, and I have a phobia of trying new foods.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I already have in my mind, if I like it or not. I already make up my mind before I ever.

Speaker 2:

And if it has something that I'm afraid, like an ingredient that I'm afraid to try I'm out I'm out anything with broccoli in it. I have the biggest fear of trying broccoli. I'm 37 years old and I've never had broccoli what I just had some for lunch. Today I have the biggest fear of it. I childhood trauma okay.

Speaker 1:

Did your parents say like try to make it never?

Speaker 2:

made it. When we were growing up, it wasn't a vegetable that we, it was always canned vegetables for us. But I was I was raised in a household of being forced to eat things I did not like. Yeah, yeah, like I tried it, I didn't like it. Like there was the tomato soup incident of like 1997. I love tomato soup. Nope, I mean, I hate tomato soup. I hate ketchup. Ugh, oh, I smell of it. I know it's very like the things that you don't like and the things that I don't like. I love anything. Cream cheese. How do you not like ketchup?

Speaker 1:

okay, I'm like how do you not like cream cheese? I'm like, how do you not like ground beef? Okay, the next thing is hang on. I bumped my screen here. The next thing is flotta, flotta.

Speaker 2:

Oh, those are just like rolled tacos.

Speaker 1:

Seasoned shredded chicken stuffed in a rolled corn tortilla. Oh, it's like a um, like a taquito yeah, taquito yeah flautas and taquitos.

Speaker 2:

I think the difference is flautas are in corn tortillas and taquitos are probably in flour tortillas, okay. Is the only difference I can think of.

Speaker 1:

Served in a cup of mild tomato salsa, sour cream and crumbled koja cheese, which is good.

Speaker 2:

Kotiha cheese. Kotiha cheese, my sister's kotiha cheese. Kelly's bringing some on Saturday for the taco bar.

Speaker 1:

Oh kotiha cheese.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I always call it koticha so I'm glad that now I know Remember the J sounds like an H.

Speaker 1:

Oh, like Jesus, and Jesus, yeah suits. Okay freaky now. I got excited when I saw this picture on freaky friday because I thought it was gonna be a fudge puppy. And it's fucking not. Is it a banana? It's grandma doreen's dessert dog ice cream, vanilla ice cream sandwich between two pieces of coffee cake. I'm out. No, I'm out too much. Keep your family recipe in your family. Bring back the fudge puppy. Bring back the fudge puppy. All right, green apple sucker ice cream. This looks okay. I would.

Speaker 2:

I would have that, but I would prefer the green apple seltzer yeah, that's good, that's good I love licking that caramel off that cup hot honey, jalapeno popper donut.

Speaker 1:

No, thank you, I'm not. I can't mix savory and sweets.

Speaker 2:

That's not for me see I can, but I can't do. I don't do spicy. If you got jalapeno for sure I'm out. And also cream cheese like that on a donut with jalapenos and bacon.

Speaker 1:

No, no give me the chocolate frosting. Remember when they first came out with like maple bacon donuts yeah, that was the big flavor.

Speaker 2:

I never got into it, don't never.

Speaker 1:

no, don't want anything to do with that. So hot honey is all the rage. Hot honey pizza balls which I would try one of these, but I wouldn't buy it.

Speaker 2:

That's it, green Mill.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, pizza. Dough balls stuffed with cheese, curds, pepperoni, parmesan cheese brushed with garlic butter, topped with more pepperoni, drizzled with. Kind of sounds like Old Chicago's pepperoni rolls obviously I was going to say it is old Chicago but it's Green Mill.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I miss old Chicago.

Speaker 1:

All right, hula Kahula pork.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I love pork, but I don't go there for fancy meats.

Speaker 1:

This is barbecue, and sometimes this Arcee's Barbecue has good, it's a good place they had that peach drink last, that peach beer.

Speaker 2:

That was really good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was a cocktail was oh yeah, it was a cocktail, all right this looks good. This looks like fun, but I wouldn't get it. Land of 10 000 cakes. I love how clever it is, yeah absolutely so I love that. It's like a bunch of different cakes layered up in a cup and um cupcakes and whipped cream and it looks super cool, but it's not my thing no, I would rather have a mini apple pie.

Speaker 2:

Oh, with With cinnamon ice cream, we're having blueberry. This time we're having blueberry.

Speaker 1:

We might have to get one of each Okay that's fine. I had mini apple pie when I was there, for Back to the 50s too. It was good. Oh, so good, All right, this one Patisserie sweets in two varieties. So two pastries, an apple glaze crisp, one. I'm just not. That's not what I'm getting at the fair I'm not getting a pastry.

Speaker 2:

None of this stuff is fair food to me pimento cheese puffs.

Speaker 1:

I don't like pimento cheese. I don't either. It's not my, not my thing. Blend of cheddar cheese, mayo and pimento peppers gross, I'm out this one.

Speaker 2:

I was like that pizza cheese, curds, taco, yeah this is at the cheese curd taco place.

Speaker 1:

So these, I would try one of these or a bite of one of these, but the?

Speaker 1:

you know I only had the cheese curd tacos once and they were so salty yeah, and I've never had them because I've always been turned off because you told me they were so salty and I like a lot of salt yeah, so do I, and I'm like you and I love salt, so that kind of scares me, this one okay, so pot of gold potato dumplings, which is cheesy garlic mashed potatoes folded into flake, flakely flaky dumplings, so that looks good. I would try that, served with top the tater.

Speaker 2:

I love potatoes and top the tater yeah, so did you did. You see, over fourth of july weekend down in um farmington where top the taters made, they did a contest of scooping up the chip. Who could scoop up the most?

Speaker 1:

Top the Tater on a chip. I know they have like Top the Tater days yeah.

Speaker 2:

It was. Yeah, you'll have to look up a video because they were picking out a ruffled chip, because that's the only plain ruffles are what goes with Top the Tater. And they picked out what one they thought would hold the most, and so it was like a whole scoop of top of the tater on a chip. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's not jam. I was like that is the most.

Speaker 2:

Minnesota contest ever.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, I know you've been waiting for something on a stick, so here is the shrimp and pork toast on a stick. Nope, looks terrible.

Speaker 2:

I mean, people say shrimp toast is good, but it's shrimp?

Speaker 1:

I've never even heard.

Speaker 2:

I mean, this isn't another Eknett food, so I don't know about it but it's a mixture of ground pork and shrimp.

Speaker 1:

No, yeah, it's like lemongrass, ginger, garlic, shallots, thai chilies fish sauce. I like my fake american chinese food smash shadilla out yeah, oh, that's ground beef, so it's like a, it's like a hamburger taco yeah, fried onto a tortilla basically somali street fries. I don't know what beef sucar is, but I don't like the way it looks yeah, I think it's just how the beef is.

Speaker 2:

It's probably a way that the beef is cooked it looks like lamb the way in this picture so it might be spiced beef, vegetables, cheese and herbs on a bed of french fries. I'll pass I'll take just french fries, all right what are these sweet squeakers?

Speaker 1:

the blue barn. So the blue barn's a promising place, yeah, but read it. Oh no, I'm out. White cheddar cheese curds coated in funnel cake batter, deep fried and topped with a scoop of fresh lemon whipped cream. Yeah, I can't do. The sweet and the savory. That's what that is too different for me.

Speaker 2:

That is like too different for me all right this.

Speaker 1:

This is ethnic food as well. Tandoori chicken. What's tandoori? Tandoori chicken is no, what ethnicity is that? Middle Eastern, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so spiced chicken layered with cheese, sauteed onions, bell peppers, jalapeno, I mean I could eat that.

Speaker 2:

It's like a quesadilla. It looks good. I mean, I love chicken shawarma. I wouldn't buy it, but I could try that, and I think tandoori chicken has similar styles of how it's cooked and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Maybe, so these did nothing for me. The timber twist at Giggles and Giggles is like a hot spot for me.

Speaker 2:

That's not even seafood, is it? Giggles Campfire Grill? No, normally that's where most of their stuff is seafood. Oh, it's not seafood, but like fish, like campfire fish, the timber twist.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this is Italian sausage, mozzarella, cream cheese and barbecue rub on three manicotti shells wrapped in bacon, and I thought they were ribs when I first saw them.

Speaker 2:

That's what it looks like from here.

Speaker 1:

But I'm out this. So they have another variation of. So they have these mini donuts in a bucket and they're like drizzled with a bunch.

Speaker 2:

They have other options I like the tom, thumb og ones I know, but these ones, they have some other.

Speaker 1:

This one is just so much chocolate. The triple chocolate, yeah, because it's chocolate. Mini donuts, powdered sugar, chocolate icing, chocolate sprinkles and chocolate chips.

Speaker 2:

That's a lot of chocolate, I I love chocolate, but that's a lot of chocolate, that's too much chocolate. Throw some peanut butter in there.

Speaker 1:

But I saw some other ones that are like regular mini donuts with chocolate drizzle and whipped cream and sprinkles. I could do that when I was in Austin. They had like this really great mini donut place and it was like you could pick the flavor of the mini donuts and you could pick if you wanted whipped cream mini donuts and you could pick if you wanted whipped cream.

Speaker 2:

you could pick the type of side of chocolate sauce, caramel sauce all the things best mini donuts ever. By the way, they changed the packaging on the mini donuts at the twins games. They are now in like little um. They look like chinese to go containers, and so when I was walking past yesterday I was like patrick would have been so upset that they changed the containers because now his cats wouldn't be able to get into the mini donuts.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's right, cats love the mini donuts. Okay, well, we're at an hour so we're not going to tell you about all the other State Fair foods, but just know that none of them look that great. No, so we'll be getting our staples and we will let you know when that happens. So thank you for listening to another episode of On Our Best Behavior. Emily and I are ready to go to bed.

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