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Mini State Fair (mis)Adventures
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The Minnesota Mini State Fair wrapped up, and this episodic adventure with guest co-host Emily Hince captures all the chaotic goodness you'd expect from two friends let loose among food vendors and craft booths. From the moment we arrive, we're on a mission to indulge in every essential fair experience.
Our culinary journey begins with the mandatory Mouth Trap cheese curds - a unanimous favorite - before discovering the heavenly combination of warm mini apple pie topped with cinnamon ice cream. We share a passionate plea to ice cream manufacturers everywhere: why isn't cinnamon a standard flavor option? The food sampling continues with Tot Boss loaded tater tots and nachos and slushies, all strategically shared to maximize our tasting potential without falling into a complete carb coma.
Between bites, we encounter memorable fair moments including a particularly eyebrow-raising sight of a woman simultaneously breastfeeding while downing a 16-ounce beer (and ordering two more to go). The people-watching at these events truly remains unmatched, rivaled only by our own misadventures - breaking a wine glass at a vendor's booth and later spending 20 minutes desperately searching for a bright blue car in a sea of seemingly identical vehicles.
Shopping becomes another highlight as we continue our annual tradition of getting permanent bracelets, marveling that last year's still look pristine. The Better Goods booth captures our attention with irresistible animal-themed clothing, including a chicken-patterned sweatshirt that I simply couldn't walk away from, inadvertently starting a shopping trend among fairgoers behind us.
As our conversation shifts to recent entertainment picks, we dive into discussions about the Timberwolves playoffs, Ginny and Georgia's latest season, compelling documentaries about the Titan submersible tragedy, and book recommendations featuring psychological thrillers by Lucinda Berry and Lisa Regan. We wrap up celebrating Emily's recent graduation and the strange feeling of finally completing a long educational journey.
Grab your favorite fair snack, settle in, and join us for this quintessential Minnesota summer experience that has us already counting down to the main State Fair - though we're definitely not counting the exact 63 days, because who would do that?
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Mini State Fair Introduction
Speaker 1You're listening to another episode of On Our Best Behavior with today's special guest co-host.
Speaker 2Emily Hintz. Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1Emily, I don't know if I've ever told you this in my life, but I either need you to talk louder or I've got to figure out my system.
Speaker 2I think you're the first person that's ever said that, to me too.
Speaker 1Well, maybe it'd help if I turned your mic on. Welcome to the show I've got to figure it out.
Speaker 2Maybe it'd help if I turned your mic on. Welcome to the show. We got it figured out.
Speaker 1Thank you. Thank you, however, you were loud enough that I could pick up on you on my own microphone, so there's that.
Speaker 2I mean yeah, I mean Patrick always said I was his favorite friend because he could always hear me.
Speaker 1It will be definitely a good thing. As we age, I won't have to be like what I can always hear me.
Speaker 2You can always hear me when we're old ladies on the porch, there we go.
Speaker 1So today we're going to talk about the mini state fair, and it did happen about a month ago, but you know life, here we are.
Speaker 2It doesn't matter. State fair is state fair.
Speaker 1And we're still looking forward to the state fair coming up in Two months. Two months, who's counting?
Speaker 2Not me 52 days. I Not me because I don't have a whole week off around that time frame and you don't either.
Speaker 1Me either. Not at all. Who would plan their vacation around the state fair Minor? All right, so some highlights. First of all, let's talk about if you haven't been to the mini state fair or you're such a dedicated listener that you listen to this show unlike Emily, in a different state and you're not familiar.
Speaker 2I deserve it.
Speaker 1We're going gonna tell you a little bit about it. So one thing that us minnesotans pride ourself on is that we have the second largest state fair in the country. Texas is first. Texas was first. And bigfoot bob told me, because he lives in texas and he's my other guest co-host, that we're their state. Because I'm like, oh, I kind of that'd be a really great excuse to go to Texas, to go to that state fair. And I happen to know somebody who lives there. But he told me it's in a really sketchy part of the state Really, where a lot of bad shit happens, interesting. And he said, like you have to kind of be on your A game and be watching out. There's a lot of like theft. We to be watching out, there's a lot of like theft. We do not have that problem at all. I mean, I have heard of stories of last year. For example, there were people throwing firearms over the fence at night.
Speaker 1Um, but I feel like we're usually out of there by 10 o'clock at night and lately, I've never seen any any of that, but um, anyway, I don't know if it's because we are just live in oblivion or we're just so high on sugar that we can't tell Both.
Speaker 2I mean, I think we're in a carb coma and people watching, you know, has has really made us not pay attention to reality because the people watching at any state fair event is Primo Amazing.
Speaker 1So yeah, so the mini state fair. Anyway, every state has a state fair, and if you don't have a state fair, I'm so sorry, don't come to ours, it's already too busy. I used to really worry about wanting people to come to the fair, so it never ended.
Speaker 2But it's out of control. Social media has made it three times the size.
Speaker 1Yeah, Search it up on your TikTok and you'll find out how great it is.
Speaker 2So many things, but don great it is so many.
Speaker 1But don't come because we already can't move it's. We're packed in like sardines. So, highlights of the state fair mini state fair, our food. What did we eat, emily, at the mini state?
Speaker 2fair um. We had don't worry, I wrote it down I'm trying to remember exactly we shared cheese curds from mouth trap from mouth trap, which are the best cheese curds for sure, and this year you actually got to go into the food building to pick them up, which in years past you couldn't.
Speaker 1Yeah Also no, have they ever even had Mouth Trap at the mini fair.
Speaker 2This was the first year they even had that they did it at the drive-thru during COVID, but maybe not during the mini.
Speaker 1This might have been the first one during the mini. The mini keeps expanding every year a little bit, yeah well, the vendors do the space.
Speaker 2Doesn't have you noticed that it's been in the same area each year?
Speaker 1well, I feel like when we were at mouth trap, like that little area was open building.
Speaker 2Yeah and yeah, and it hasn't been open before the um sky sky ride, the one that spins around like the seattle.
Speaker 1Oh, was that open it wasn't open, but it was right there yeah, yeah, yeah, and I feel like that's new space that they used to have taped off.
Speaker 2Yeah what was the first thing? We had mini apple pie, that's. How can you forget?
Speaker 1that cinnamon ice cream the best. If you make ice cream Kemps, breyers, ben and Jerry ever, why don't you make Cinnamon?
Speaker 2ice cream, it's so good, it's so good. And with a warm Slice of apple pie. Nothing better so good. Nothing better so fucking good. Oh.
Speaker 1And we shared it.
Speaker 2Because I mean, we wanted To pace ourselves.
Speaker 1Because we wanted To fit a lot in. Yeah, yeah, but you can easily Consume that by yourself.
Speaker 2It is, if people remember the caramel apple empanada from Taco Bell, which is one of my favorite things, that they brought back for a day and then got rid of again. It's very similar in size and taste to that, but I think this is better.
Speaker 1It's better.
Speaker 2I don't like that Taco Bell empanada and I am a Taco Bell fan oh, it's one of my favorite things, I miss it. I'm a Taco Bell fan oh, it's one of my favorite things, I miss it. And then we had food wise, I don't think we had much after that Tot Boss. We had Tot Boss and I wanted wontons.
Speaker 1But the wontons were sold out by three o'clock. Everything at that food truck. What is that food truck called? It's Cuvette. Oh yeah, cuvette, yeah.
Speaker 2Something, yeah, yeah, something, yeah, um, they had every as wendy would say, asian invasion.
Speaker 1She would, she would. She said that again today and I'm like you can't say that it's offensive, poor wendy. I'm like it's asian innovation.
Food Adventures and Favorites
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, innovation oh my god, um yeah, by three o'clock on sunday, a lot of things were sold out when it was open till seven yeah, and when we went to al's malts, the only thing they had left was chocolate yeah, and I didn't know you could still get caramel no, didn't know that either. It'd be nice if they told us that it looked like it was just chocolate and that you're like it's two dollars more.
Speaker 1I'm like I don't care, I'm at the fair.
Speaker 2It's delicious, the amount of money I spend at these things.
Speaker 1I don't, I don't count, I don't count, um. So yeah, and then we had, so we had them all that was all we had to eat.
Speaker 2Yeah, we didn't have. And then we only had a few drinks. We had that slushy when the band, the unicorn band, played.
Speaker 1Oh that unicorn band was good. They were really good. That Bruno Mars mashup was good and I got a unicorn tattoo.
Speaker 2That's right. That was at Dino's yeah.
Speaker 1That's a really great place for live music.
Speaker 2I've never hung out there for live music before. It's always been Famous, dave's, really.
Speaker 1Yeah, even at the regular.
Speaker 2State Fair.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh, I've had some really great times at that Dino's. They always have like good cover bands.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've never. I've only done the Famous Dave's one a few times and that was it.
Speaker 1And then we had we went good, and then you had a grape, grape, ape grape, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good, and then, and I'm, actually not a fan of grape flavor, but that grape is good every year.
Speaker 2It's good they have it at the twin stadium in the um drink coolers and you can get it in cans yeah, what brewery makes that?
Speaker 1uh, lift bridge. Okay, that's what I thought, that's good. Yeah, so they make the bomb pop too. Yeah, the bomb.
Speaker 2And they have, and they had that in the cans too at the Twins game the other week. It was actually kind of cool. I kind of like that you can go in a cooler and pick out whatever you want and the options are endless.
Speaker 1Yeah, I really like going to Saints games. For the food in the they have like that craft beer area. Snuffy's Malt there they're getting fun. I mean they're fun, but I, I love a good twins game, but I prefer saints games.
Speaker 2Yeah, same same and it's cheaper.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think. Yeah, it's funner, it's in a cooler area I mean, I work two blocks from there from the saints game yeah, you could just go after work a lot walk down there yeah, scooter and get a lime, scooter and just cruise on down, I work in kind of a sketch area.
Speaker 2my office is next to a methadone clinic, the St Paul Police Department and a doggie daycare. All three out of the four corners. You're a brave girl.
Speaker 1I'm too much of a wuss. I like to act tough, but I'm not.
Speaker 2I'm so used to it.
Speaker 1now my mouth is tough, my body is not, your brain is like no, what did you just say? Can you back that shit up? So while we were having some drinks at the ballpark cafe, for the first time ever, I saw a lady drinking and breastfeeding at the same time.
Speaker 2And it wasn't just one drink either. It was a tall 16 ounce beer as she was breastfeeding and then took two more to go, and she clearly had to feed her kid later, so I don't know that she yeah, she left the left, the ballpark cafe, with two drinks in her herself in her um stroller it was the giant wagon stroller thing and watching them try to maneuver to get in there and then like the way that they took up space for their family and then, like some other people, tried to sit there and the dirty looks they gave.
Speaker 2I'm like we're in a tight area. You cannot take up four tables for your family of like five, and how do you judge when you're drinking a beer and breastfeeding your baby? I like to say no offense to our Wisconsin listeners, but I like to say that they're probably from Wisconsin because I don't think anybody in Minnesota would do that. But that's just me being protective of Minnesota.
Speaker 1So I did go to work and ask about this because I was really on my mind and they did say like actually, they tell you like if you're gonna breastfeed it's because of the time lapse of the alcohol getting into your system getting into the breast milk Like it's better to drink and breastfeed, but then you have to wait like X amount of time after that. But that was my concern is I don't think she was.
Speaker 2The optics weren't good. At the end of the day, the optics weren't great, and whether that was her first drink or not, I'm going to be judgy. I don't think it was?
Speaker 1I don't think it was I don't think it was so.
Speaker 2Especially for how fast she was drinking them she finished the 16 ounce before we finished one 12 ounce oh yeah we just easily easily so that was probably the oh and then.
Speaker 1The other crazy thing has happened is you were shopping and then you dropped that glass first and where I thought I lost my car yeah and then we lost your car. Oh, to be fair, when you get there and you park, they just shove you in and it looks so different. Right, it's not full and then it's full when you leave. Yeah, there's no like distinct parking lines nope, nothing.
Speaker 2And I was convinced that we did not park in the dirt. I vividly remember parking on asphalt. That's what I was like.
Speaker 1We don't need to look in the dirt, we don't need to look when I called you and I found the car, you're like is it in the trees? I'm like it is, and you're like I don't need to look. When I called you and I found the car, you're like is it in the trees? And I'm like it is, and you're like.
Speaker 2I don't remember that at all and normally I have like a really good memory, like I have a sense of direction, like my dad, where I can remember those types of things. Nope, heck. I parked at the airport and knew exactly four days later where my car was in. When I went to Arizona in April, knew exactly where my car was without taking a picture, couldn, couldn't find this one.
Speaker 1I'm terrible. I lose my car all the time. I lose my car at Target, I lose my car wherever I am. I'm just so excited that, like, whatever, like, I'm excited to be at the mini state fair, so I'm not even paying attention to parking. I'm thinking about mini apple pie.
Speaker 2Yes, I was like we're just going because we usually get there right when it opens, and we stayed until what? Five this time. So we were there pretty long time. And then it's one thing. It's something we have done every year since it started for your birthday, and I love that. For the first few years no one knew about it. They were like what do you mean? You're going to? What state fair, the greatest thing ever, you what? I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1And now this year was the busiest well, every time it's busiest every time Just like the numbers for the real estate fair every year it's like you're there on the busiest day.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 1Use code BEST to get 20 off a one-time purchase or up to 48 off a subscription. Go get your magic mind. Okay, so this is like way late, but the minnesota timberwolves were in the playoffs and you could tell at the mini state fair because everyone was wearing wolf gear.
Speaker 2Oh, every last year too, there was all bring your ass, bring your ass, bring your ass. Shirts everywhere, yes, um, but this year it was just everybody was wearing wolves gear and it was. I mean, I have never been a big basketball fan. The last couple of years, though, I've really gotten into it, and I think part of it is because the wolves have been so fun to watch you went to more games this year than I did.
Speaker 1I didn't't go to any.
Lost Cars and Broken Glasses
Speaker 2I went to two, and both of them I brought my nephew with me. So yeah first one was like a gift to him. Second one was he got the gift for Christmas. Oh, and he picked you. Well, you were defaulted. Well, when Nicole bought the ticket, she's like I think we have something else going on that day. Can you take Gabe? And I was like sure, can, can. And he told me he's like it's more fun with you. Anyway, I was like okay, sounds good well, that's heartwarming.
Speaker 1I mean, the kid loves me. Did they win when you went both times?
Speaker 2yeah, why don't you?
Speaker 1go to every game. I need to go to the playoff games.
Speaker 2We could have got farther, I know jeez, I had one of our um research fellows went and she was like for nosebleed seats. It was. This was even only in round one. Was like for nosebleed seats, it was. This was even only a round one. She's like for nosebleed seats. It was like 400 bucks. Yeah, like no. Thank you.
Speaker 1I'd rather watch it front row at TV.
Speaker 2On TV at home. Without a bra on sweats and a t-shirt, and maybe a glass of wine in my hand.
Speaker 1And no line for the pisser.
Speaker 2Correct, unless my cat's guarding my toilet. But you can pause it, that's true.
Speaker 1That's true so my bet? Oh so at the state fair should we do some shopping and they have had way more vendors this year, which was exciting, was so fun this year. So fun, I okay. So first of all, we always get well, not not always Two years in a row. Two years in a row, I got a permanent bracelet, yep, and so I. And the first time I ever got one, mine fell off at like nine months.
Speaker 2That was at the county fair.
Speaker 1Mine stayed on, but it tarnished really bad, and so then last year we got one and we both still had it on. And then this year we got another one added and that was really cool. They wanted to take pictures because we still had the other one, and the quality is still there. And we were even selling people because we're like oh yeah, we got this one last year and it's still great. And they're like can we see it?
Speaker 2Can't even tell it's been worn and stuff. I thought I was going to have to cut it off back in December when I had a procedure done, so I was a little nervous. I'm like I can't get rid of it.
Speaker 1They don't make you. Yeah, some stuff they're pretty cool about now. And then I saw this shirt that I had to have. It was a chicken sweatshirt.
Speaker 2It had little chickens all over it.
Speaker 1I'll post a picture for you on my social media. And anyway, I was like, looking at it, I'd already spent the money on the bracelet, kind of like try to have a budget of like $100. The bracelet was 70, to be fair. We didn't eat much. We did share a lot, yes and um. Anyway, I was like telling emily like I really like this. I'm like, oh you know, this vendor is here at the regular state fair. I'm just, I'm just gonna wait and you're like, so, such a great friend. You're like, yeah, yeah, it'll be here.
Speaker 2Like yeah, I mean yeah, just save your money. At the same time you're like, yeah, yolo.
Speaker 1I'm like, just, you're like, save your money, it's okay. So then we do more shopping and I can't stop thinking about that shirt and I'm like, emily, I'm just gonna buy it $50, isn't gonna like I'm going back, gonna put me in bankruptcy. And you're like yeah, yeah, you should get it. You should get, like you are the most supportive friend. Like you're like, no, don't get it. Yeah, you, oh, you want to get it now yeah, yeah, get it, get it.
Speaker 2I mean I will never tell someone no if they're like, should I get it, I will say no because guess what life is short. You can't take the money when you die, so I'm gonna buy it if I want to buy it. Hence my extremely giant lego collection that's only been around for a year, um that's my pyrex collection.
Speaker 1That's your Pyrex.
Speaker 2Yes, that's the thing. It's just, if you're like maybe not Like okay, that's what you want to do, great, then I think I'm going to, absolutely let's go.
Speaker 1But I just love that. You are always like on my side. Yeah, I'm like. You know what I don't eat? You're like I have to get it.
Speaker 2Yeah, you should get it, which I'm so glad because we started a trend. Oh my gosh, yeah, because I bought the mushroom one.
Speaker 1So cute.
Speaker 2And I wore it during meetings that when I was from home one day I got so many compliments, my therapist was like that's so cute. My boss thought it was adorable.
Speaker 1So it is.
Speaker 2But we bought them, and then everybody in line behind us was buying them too, and the lady gave us like $10 gift cards.
Speaker 1Yeah, did you spend yours? No, have you? No, I forgot about it until the other day. I pulled it out of my backpack.
Speaker 2I know, I looked at their website a couple weeks ago and I was like, okay, it's the same stuff plus more. They have like regular clothes and stuff too.
Speaker 1What's it called Better?
Speaker 2Goods, cool little shop, best pajama pants ever so soft, so soft all right, that's all I have to talk about the fair.
Speaker 1Did you have anything else? Did you have anything else in your notes fair? No mine nope nope yeah covered it all. I was talking about.
Speaker 2The only main was losing my car, and we let's just continue to slide over the fact that I broke that wine glass.
Speaker 1I was so embarrassed that guy was so pissed I heard that so mad, that smash on the floor and I was like wine glass. I was so embarrassed. That guy was so pissed. I heard that so mad, that smash on the floor and I was like fuck. I know that was Emily, I just have a feeling and I like slowly turn and you're just like I was mortified.
Speaker 2I was mortified and the one guy was so nice about it, the other guy was just pissed. I'm like you have wine glasses, a ton of them, stacked on an open table where people walk around a corner and it's narrow. It's narrow. If you don't think people are going to break a $12 wine glass, you've got another thing coming. Sorry, I got big hips what?
Speaker 1do you want from me? You didn't even offer to pay for it.
Speaker 2No, I did. I did buy a shirt, though I did. No, I did. I did buy a shirt, though I did buy a shirt, I was like I need to buy this and leave.
Shopping and Bracelet Traditions
Speaker 1I need to walk away right now. It was funny because there was some other girls in there and I heard like their guys that were with them, like they came out first and they're like what did you break in there? And they're like it wasn't us, wasn't us. And I just came out, I'm like it was us. And then I could tell they were like a little embarrassed, like because they didn't think that I could hear them say that no, I will admit it, I was mortified and I think I was more mortified because the guy was rude about it.
Speaker 1Like accidents happen are you gonna go back in there and the real estate fair?
Speaker 2yeah, I'll go back in there, yeah, and I might buy a wine glass I might. I did like it. I want.
Speaker 1It was a new pattern I was showing you, I know I know, I, I remember, I remember seeing it on the floor. I know I was like look, it's so cute.
Speaker 2Crash. Oh god, I can't. Oh, I was like you know what it happens. It was twelve dollars. You know what it happens it was $12.
Speaker 1You know what it's making me laugh, so that's good.
Speaker 2I'm laughing at it now. I know, yeah, you weren't. I was like we're never talking about that again.
Speaker 1Then you just want to go home, and then you can't find your car.
Speaker 2I couldn't find my car for 20 minutes.
Speaker 1It wasn't even like five minutes, it was a long time. And then you can tell everyone's like, oh, they don't know where they parked, okay there was another guy that was lost too.
Speaker 2Him and I were going trading aisles up and down. I could tell that we were just trading aisles up and down and I'm like I don't know where it is.
Speaker 1I just think it's funny that where we really thought it was was nowhere near there.
Speaker 2It's not like my car is hard to find either. It's bright blue yeah.
Speaker 1You would. You would be surprised how many bright blue cars there are when you're looking for that's true natalie.
Speaker 2When she was little, she'd see a bright blue suv on the road and go oh there's emmy. She's like not even close, not her, not even close.
Speaker 1Well, that was me too, like when you first got that car. It was the only bright blue car I ever saw.
Speaker 2Now, you see them everywhere. Yeah, true all right.
Speaker 1What's on your radar? What are you reading? What are you watching? What are you into?
Speaker 2well, I'm gonna watch the final basketball game which is tonight. I mean, I'm for okc, so you are for the thunder yeah, I don't like indiana. Why I've never liked indiana?
Speaker 1why you can't just not like something without a reason, the only reason I like okc, sga, that's the thing.
Speaker 2Okay, like SGA.
Speaker 1Chet Holmgren is from Minnehaha Academy.
Speaker 2Yes, there is a lot of Minnesota connections, halliburton's dad, that whole situation, tyrese Halliburton's dad and how they handle that whole situation did not sit well with me at all.
Speaker 2So the situation if you don't watch basketball is that the dad is crazy and he overstepped a lot of boundaries and they don't let him come to any games other than home games yeah, but he got so aggressive towards another team and the fact that they like didn't suspend him just for the rest of the season across all games, kind of I don't know, it just didn't. Like I'm all gave you the ick. It did, it gave me the ick. Like I'm all for supporting your child, like I've been to so many kids' sporting events. They get nasty, the parents, the parents get so nasty and to me it's like that's not what it's about.
Speaker 1It's about enjoying it Is it, though, when it's, this is their career, this is how they make money. Kids, it should be fun teaching a lot of things.
Speaker 2It's the player's career, but career but not the parents career maybe it is his career maybe maybe his income depends on his kid that that then you still got to sit down and shut up and be respectful, like that's my thing, like I'm just trying to get you fired, I appreciate it, but I'm like no, that is so. It just gave me the ick, so I and I like, I like the ties that sga has with his cousin in minnesota and everything like it.
Speaker 1Just, I, just, just, I, just it's like a mini Kelsey brother situation yeah, a little bit, but cousins, in basketball.
Speaker 2Yeah, um, so that I plan on watching and then started the new season of Ginny and Georgia only through episode one. You're further along than I am.
Speaker 1I only have one episode left.
Speaker 2I've heard it's really good this year, did you like last?
Speaker 1season. I'm gonna try to not have one episode left. I've heard it's really good this year, did you like last season? I'm going to try to not have any spoilers here because I know you haven't watched.
Speaker 2it had to remember, really, when I watched the first episode of the season, of like what happened, because it's been so long.
Speaker 1It really focused on Georgia and, like all the things that she did, the first season was focused on Ginny.
Speaker 2Yeah, I did like it, I did. It seems like it's more Georgia focused again.
Speaker 1I think that there's some really big hard topics that they are that come up yeah, that I'm glad that they're talking about. There's something that happens. That's a big thing that I'm not going to tell you, and I feel like the way they handled it was really good. Um, however, I feel like there's a big piece that they completely missed, and we'll talk about that. When you get that far, yeah, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1um, so I was a little disappointed in in that, especially like education for teenagers yeah um, but I really like how this season like I feel like last season it was just kind of showcasing Georgia and all the bad that she did and how much harm it was causing her family. And I feel like this season it's really showcasing how much she cares about her family and how families come together to support each other in hard times.
Speaker 2Her intention, in my view, has always been good. Yes, she's always had good intentions with every decision that she's made.
Speaker 1And not making excuses for her, but she was like 15 when she became a mom, exactly, and so she always was, maybe in her eyes, trying to do what she thought was the best thing, right, but has definitely learned along the way and questioned some of her decisions, and I think that's eye-opening and like good that they're spotlighting that yeah, no, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2I'll be interested to finish it. Um, you know, what I've been into is the documentaries that have come out about the titan submersible. Is this like a history thing?
Speaker 1it's from two years ago okay, it's oh submersible that went underwater to go look at the Titanic and imploded.
Speaker 2So I know HBO has a documentary and Netflix has a documentary. I think Peacock might have one too.
Speaker 1What are you watching it on?
Speaker 2Netflix there's two different documentaries that I've seen so far. I think there's a third one. So the HBO one is more about the actual crash and everything that led up to that, whereas the Netflix one is a really good backstory of how the company became, how they became, and it's not a good company, not a good look. Everybody in that company knew this submersible was not safe, but this guy was they took everyone's money he was a greedy millionaire yeah, he thought he had disposable money, like family wealth, all these things.
Speaker 2He didn't care what anybody said and he was like I'm just gonna do it, but he didn't get on the thing. Yeah, he died.
Speaker 1Oh, he did die on it oh, I don't know much about it was a playstation controller yeah, I heard that, yeah, yeah no, he got on it.
Speaker 2Um, and in one of the documentaries in the netflix one when they did a test run, you could physically hear, because it's made out of carbon fiber. You can physically hear it cracking and expanding because it's not meant to go that deep, yeah, yeah that much pressure and everything and he's like, oh, it's fine, it's fine, no big deal.
Speaker 2There was a huge crack in it at one point and they put a band-aid on it and I think one of the next underwater missions they did it exploded why would you sign up to go on that?
What We're Watching
Speaker 1did they disclose any of that? Or did anyone do any research? They're just like, oh, this is a great thing, so only he knew it, but he still got on there he would.
Speaker 2He would fire people and then, when they tried to sue, he would counter sue, and it came into this whole issue. Okay, so interesting the netflix one was really interesting, so that's, that was what I was watching mackie is watching prison break oh, I've never seen it. You never watched it, super old throwback.
Speaker 1So, uh, deacon and I watched it when it was like on tv, and then mackie had wanted to watch it again because he was seeing reels on like tiktok and I'm like, oh yeah, I saw that. So he's like, will you watch it with me? So that's kind of been our show. No, we're still watching dexter and we are on. So here's the thing that I'm mad about dexter and dexter's an old show, so this is not any spoilers for most of the world no, but mackie tells me things like oh, trinity kills rita why would you tell me that?
Speaker 2he told you that, yes, I know she's gonna die and she's not dead yet. One of the biggest spoilers, yes, and I will say the Trinity killer is one of the best characters I've ever seen. He's from the third rock guy.
Speaker 1He's the third rock guy.
Speaker 2John Lifkow. He is so good in that season.
Speaker 1So the last episode that we watched, he killed. Well, two episodes ago he killed Lundy and shot Deborah Yep and Deborah's. Back on the force.
Speaker 2Now I cannot, and dexter's like befriending trinity trying to get close to him and now he's.
Speaker 1I know he's gonna kill rita and I'm pissed. Hey mom, do you know that trinity kills?
Speaker 1rita, fuck you why that is one of the biggest spoilers of any show ever oh, he also told me hey, mom, you know, um, he said something about, oh, you know the ice. The ice truck killer is Dexter's brother. He told me that before they what the I know? I'm like why do you even want to watch these shows? Why are you watching it? If you're going to watch all the spoilers on TikTok, yeah. If you already know what happens, why are you watching it? That's so lame. And then he falls asleep during half of it. So, like on the Walking Dead, I'll dead. I'll ask him questions like oh hey, what's going on? Blah, blah. Like what's that guy's name? I'm like, let me go on tiktok and find out. Why do you even watch it if you just sleep through it? Because, oh, you've seen all the highlights on tiktok, got it?
Speaker 2not how to watch a show is that what they do these days?
Speaker 1is that how they watch shows?
Speaker 2I guess, oh, I need to watch. What are you watching? Prison break on netflix, netflix on netflix, okay.
Speaker 1So also here's another worrisome thing about mccoy. Since he's not being on the podcast, I'm just gonna rat him out on all of his shit. He's not gonna hear it. So, ginny and georgia yep. So he's asking me this isn't a spoiler why is? Why is georgia on trial? And I said she's on trial for murder? And he goes well, who did she kill and why? And I said, well, she's in trouble because she's on trial for killing this guy who was on hospice and he was gonna die anyway, and she, kind of like put him out of his misery because the wife begged yeah, yeah, right, and she asked, and that whatever I kind of left that part all out, but anyway, um he go.
Speaker 1This is what he said mom, why doesn't she just admit she did it? It's only first degree murder and she'll get like 12 years on good behavior uh, wrong, why?
Speaker 2why would you say that? Also, you're gonna have a conviction on your record for the rest of your life and you're not gonna be able to do anything. Also, 12 years for first degree. I want to know where you're getting that right where are? You getting these stats, usually 25? No, that's first degree murder. Where are you getting your info? And I'm kind of scared I know me too.
Speaker 1I mean, I was also telling him about one of our friend's friend, yep, who found out she was pregnant. Yep, 18 weeks along and you know what he said to me mom, that's too late for plan b. How do you know what plan B is? I know, I'm worried. I'm worried about him. I'm like plan B is actually plan Z, yep, because last resort, you protect you, she protects she and you protect each other, yeah, and you protect each other, and if somebody is not protecting themselves, it's a no go.
Speaker 1Yep, oh my God, I know I'm scared. I'm scared for my future, are you?
Speaker 2reading. What am I reading? Oh, I just looked it up. Hold on, let me see.
Book Recommendations
Speaker 1Well, I'll tell you what. I just finished this book. So one of my favorite authors, also from minnesota, lucinda berry oh my god, she's the best she now. I might not be 100 on this, but my gist of her is that she worked in child psychology, something like that, something in that field, and so a lot of her books are loosely over dramatic interpretations, over dramatized situations that she maybe saw in her line of work. Yep, so this book that I just finished is about a boy in high school who is a pedophile, who knows that he ends up like this is not a spoiler he touches some girls. He's really avid like swimmer. He over the summer teaches, like peewee, swimming. There's some young girls in his swim class. He ends up touching them. There's no penetration, nothing like that. It's more of like a rubbing up on situation, and I'm not trying to say that that's not that that's right, but anyway he feels super guilty about it and he ends up like confiding in his mom about it.
Speaker 1So they end up telling the girl's parents what happened, hoping that they'll just be happy that they, you know, told them and they're not. He's not, he's not gonna, he's not gonna teach anymore, whatever, whatever. Well, whatever, he ends up having to like right, go to like lock up juvie, whatever, and do this like program, whatever, and it just goes through what that family, the backlash of what that family, deals with, the struggle that this boy has of having pedophilia and not wanting to have pedophilia. And it's just nuts, it's mine, it's mind blowing. It's a really fast read, actually not that long the, the audiobook's, not long either.
Speaker 2when I picked it up last night I was like this is not even. I don't even think it's 300 pages, yeah, but what's?
Speaker 1good about it is it covers all the details. You have no questions at the end.
Speaker 2She's such a good writer. I've never read a bad book from her.
Speaker 1She's low key like Frida McFadden. If you like Frida McFadden, I think.
Speaker 2I get better. I like Frida. If you can handle, but a lot of it is like childhood trauma it's the one, it's the black cover with the pink balloon and then like yes, yes, I haven't read that one yet yes, and right now I'm reading by, because once I finished saving noah, I just was, there was a big.
Speaker 1I talked about this. Uh, there was a huge, audible sale and like there was a ton of frida books, lucinda berry books, somebody else, uh, natasha preston, she's another good author and they were all like three dollars so I bought a bunch. So I was like, oh, I'm just gonna, now I'm on to phantom limb is the book I'm reading now, and that is also lucinda berry is it?
Speaker 2I've never heard of that one yeah.
Speaker 1So it's about, uh, twin girls who were abused when they were younger and kind of like how they're dealing with it now and then something I haven't got very far something bad really happens. I think it says in the synopsis synopsis one of the girls dies and then it kind of starts dragging up the past. The other one kind of has to go through whatever she came out with a new book recently.
Speaker 2I bought it. I haven't read it yet, but I've never read anything bad by her. No, so good. Yeah, um, I'm currently reading, so I started this. It's a series this is the first book in this series called vanishing girls by lisa reagan, and it's a detective jos. This is the first book in this series called Vanishing Girls by Lisa Reagan and it's a Detective Josie Quinn series. That's the first book in the series. It's super easy read, just something quick. I really like that the chapters are short, so it just kind of keeps the flow going. So Josie Quinn is a detective In this book.
Speaker 2She is currently suspended from the force and she happens to be a witness to this accident. And the person that survives the accident says a woman's name. She's like who is this? I can't figure this out, kind of thing. But it turns out that the guy who survives the accident has connections to a girl that's a local girl that's missing. It's a small town in pennsylvania and it's just all of these pieces are tying together and she finds that you know his niece. Niece used to be the guy that survived the accident. His niece was captive. She was held captive for a year she came out and ended up killing a nurse in a nursing home because she's so possessed from the trauma she experienced and things like that. And so it's kind of going in and out of all of that stuff. And I got just into a point I'm halfway through it where her fiance, who is a state trooper, got shot and might die, like it just keeps going.
Speaker 1You want to keep reading it?
Speaker 2There's so many different twists and turns and you're not sitting there reading a chapter for-.
Speaker 1I hate that when you're like looking like oh my God, how many pages are left in this chapter. I hate that.
Speaker 2When you're like looking like oh my God, how many pages are left in this chapter. I hate that, like I love Christian Hanna books. They're one of my favorite. She's one of my favorite authors.
Speaker 1Historical fiction. I can't do it.
Speaker 2I love her books but again, her chapters are really long and like. So I have to be in the mental headspace. If I want a quick, good, easy read, that's that, that, frida, I'll do, or something like that. Like, if I need to get out of a reading slump, easy, quick reads and it's like, oh yeah, this is why I love reading.
Speaker 1Yeah, I do that sometimes if I read like a book that I would really struggle to get through. Then I'll be my instant go to is a Frida or a Lucinda Berry?
Speaker 2or a Colleen Hoover. I hate to be that trendy person, but I love her books. I haven't read any of her new ones.
Speaker 1Recently I read this book, that she wrote my most recent book, that it was a while back, but it's called hopeless. Yep, I have that one, so good is it so good. That's why I've never read a bad book, so I named my chickens hope and sky from hopeless heartbones is such a good, oh yeah, I read that too, yeah I?
Speaker 2I think I did. I don't dislike her books at all.
Speaker 1Layla was hard for me.
Speaker 2Yeah, I couldn't get into it, so I need to pick it back up because I know that it's different from what she normally writes, and that's hard for me when I have such a preconceived like this is how her writing is, and then to shift it, kind of weird to me.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's the only. I mean mean I read that book and it was fine, but it was the only book where I was like what the fuck am I reading? And sometimes of hers, yeah, and like sometimes like on my facebook, like things will pop up from like thriller groups, and somebody just recently was right, this is the best colleen hoover book I've read. And I was like you're on, I didn't say anything because I'm a very I don't like to be a internet troll. You're silent. I was just like you're crazy. That book was terrible.
Speaker 2I not terrible, but terrible for her I. I need to pick it back up, but I want to start saving noah this weekend, hopefully yeah, you'll finish it.
Speaker 1I finished it in two days I figured I will.
Speaker 2I was like I couldn't stop reading hot as all hell this weekend, so I'm gonna be inside with air conditioning. Yep, I'm officially done with school, so congratulations, graduate thank you, it feels really weird, like my sister is like does it feel real? I'm like no, it'll feel real in about four weeks when I don't have to go back.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's when it feels like it's kind of like your break time.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm on my break until I get the but you're gonna have a big party in a couple of weeks. It's not just my party.
Speaker 1I know, I know.
Speaker 2It's my sister and her husband's 40th birthdays and Miles is going off to MCAD, my nephew going to MCAD and then my parents.
Speaker 1Retirement Quote, quote. Retirement yeah.
Speaker 2Even though they both still work, it's fine.
Speaker 1Well, they retired from their real jobs? No, didn't. Well isn't she working? Yeah, minimal hours, hours when she goes, when she's not sick, decides to go um.
Speaker 2No one in your family has like a health issue. No, oh my god, yeah, sorry um no inside joke it took me a minute. I was like, wait a minute. I worded it funny? No, you're quite funny um no, I think it'll really hit me when I get the $60,000 piece of paper in the mail. Yeah, that's going to be.
Speaker 1This is what I paid for.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is the shit. I took 15 years to complete, but you completed it.
Speaker 1You have a higher education than I do. And don't poke your eye out and like look at where you are in your career, I'm proud of you, thank you, yeah. And like look at where you are in your career, I'm proud of you. Thank you, yeah. I know you have a hard time being proud of yourself accepting it.
Graduation and Career Reflections
Speaker 2You know it's something I'm working through in therapy, but I am trying to embrace it. I am trying to embrace, like you know, my brother-in-law, john's, so good at being like you did it the hard way.
Speaker 2Yeah, you did it working full time, and you did it because you wanted to do it. Yeah, because you had had to. Yeah, you go, john. He's like that's weird. And then he's like I was talking about how I want to get my master's and he's like college is overrated. And I said not in my field, it's not. And I said, if you work at anything in the medical field, college educations mean everything.
Speaker 1It's how you make the money.
Speaker 2And he's like, yeah, if I have my master's, I can easily go and work at a pharmaceutical company making a lot more like double what I'm making now. Yeah.
Speaker 1Way more possibilities, way more opportunities Do.
Speaker 2I want to work for the devil. If they pay well enough, why not? I can sell my soul when I'm older Not right now, but when I'm older I'll sell my soul.
Speaker 1John works in IT, so I feel like that is money, like that is where money is right now too, so it is, but like he doesn't, him and my sister both, I don't think use their college degrees. I mean kelly has a bachelor's degree in psychology oh yeah, she doesn't use and she works in like project management oh, so I knew that. But I mean, I knew that, but I forgot that, yeah, but yeah so.
Speaker 2But yeah, now that I'm done with school, I can actually sit and read for fun so.
Speaker 1So if you're single and looking for a date and want somebody who is very successful in their career beautiful lacks, some confidence is very supportive and fun.
Speaker 2Well, we'll support you in spending any dollar amount that you want on anything.
Speaker 1if you want it, buy it Well maybe if you're her romantic partner, she might not encourage that? As much Somebody who will back you up when you need tip money because you used a gift card at dinner and didn't bring cash, that's right which it's weird to me that you can't use a tip.
Speaker 2Put a tip on a gift card Some places let you put a tip, you can.
Speaker 1It confuses me, but whatever, it's fine.
Speaker 2But yeah, well, thanks for fluffing me up. Yep, fluff, fluff, fluff it.
Speaker 1All right. Well, thanks for listening to another episode of Honor Best Behavior and stay tuned because Emily is going to be back for some more episodes over the summer. Yay Bye.
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