On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 16-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
Bigfoot Club
Step into the shadow-filled world of cryptozoology and paranormal investigation with Robert and Steven from Bigfoot Club, two researchers who've spent decades pursuing the unexplained. Robert shares his background as a former investigator with the Texas Bigfoot Research Center and case director for a paranormal group, while nephew Steven recounts the childhood experiences that shaped his perspective on the supernatural—from terrifying nights in the woods to unexplainable encounters that still give him goosebumps.
The conversation takes a particularly haunting turn when both men share parallel experiences of encountering the same ghostly hospital patient while Robert was critically ill. Steven describes seeing an elderly man sitting in an empty room who vanished within seconds, while Robert later reveals spotting the same mysterious figure walking with an IV stand during the night—only to learn from nurses that no mobile patients were on that floor.
Beyond the spine-tingling tales, Robert offers fascinating scientific insights into how materials like limestone, quartz, and water serve as conductors for paranormal energy, and why locations near electrical connections often experience the most supernatural activity. Their approach to Bigfoot research proves equally methodical, focusing on water sources and using electrical right-of-ways as tracking opportunities across counties.
What elevates this discussion is the balance between genuine investigation and compassionate understanding. For Robert and Steven, paranormal research isn't about proving skeptics wrong—it's about helping witnesses process unexplainable experiences and providing a therapeutic outlet for those who feel alone in what they've seen. Whether you're a longtime believer or a curious skeptic, their perspectives offer both comfort and compelling reasons to reconsider what might be lurking just beyond our understanding.
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Hey guys, welcome back to RRS Behavior. You're here with Mac and Kelly.
Speaker 2:And we have special guests today with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot Club Robert and Steven hey guys.
Speaker 3:Hey, hello.
Speaker 2:I was like woo, and then you guys were like hi, we're shy. Yeah, he was pointing at me, hi.
Speaker 3:We're shy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we did. He was pointing at me, I guess, to go yeah you go.
Speaker 3:No, you go first, Because I didn't want us to both go hey, yeah, sorry. Well, we're all here.
Speaker 2:Party can get started. Steven you got your kids to bed finally.
Speaker 3:They're with their mother right now. They were screaming a while ago. That's why I was like, hey, hey, we're gonna be on the podcast on each other.
Speaker 2:So they're like, oh sorry, they were yelling do you guys, do you guys listen to new heights, the kelsey brothers?
Speaker 3:no, oh uh, travis and jason yeah yeah, uh, no, but I want to see the latest one because I had jason sudeikis on there.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, yeah, he's funny, did you this? Is like this is my add going all crazy. Did you guys watch shrinking on apple tv?
Speaker 3:yeah, I did and I'm I was telling robert to watch it. It's such a great show I have it, it's on my list.
Speaker 5:It is so fun. I was telling him.
Speaker 3:It's like yeah, go ahead uh no, I was just saying it was one of the same writers of ted lasso oh, I didn't know that roy, yeah, roy kent, the actor that plays roy kent, oh really, it's a great yeah, it's a great show, yep ted lasso. Yeah, they got season two or season three? No, no, I'm talking about uh, shrinking uh season three jeff. Uh, jeff daniels is gonna be on there.
Speaker 2:Really, yep, okay yeah, shrinking it's about this guy who's a shrink, who's a therapist, and his wife dies and he, like his job right is to like help people through hard times, but he's a mess, like he's a complete wreck, and so it's. It's just super funny you have to watch it.
Speaker 4:It's on my list to watch, I just haven't.
Speaker 3:It has to be like the right next thing to watch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah like, if you're in like a mood where you're just kind of like blah, like it will make you laugh okay it's, it's sad, but it's got some really heartfelt moments in it and it's very funny too nice yeah, right, they take like a terrible thing and make it like funny yeah as oddly as that sounds, that sounds like ted lasso yeah as oddly, as that sounds, it it's yeah, that's what she says is right, all right big.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot Club. Now I know that all of our listeners know who you are because I was on your podcast and I'm confident everyone listened to that. But just in case we have some new listeners, why don't you tell us what you guys do? Bigfoot Club is a podcast.
Speaker 4:Bigfoot Club is a podcast Give us the summary of why you're interested in Bigfoot Club, why you do a podcast about it and where you're at with it currently. Okay, I started it in. Was it 2019?
Speaker 3:Yeah, 2019. You were a year before us when we started in 2019? Yeah, 2019.
Speaker 4:You were a year before us, when we started in 20.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we started in 2019. I used to be a Bigfoot researcher for a group here in Texas, north Texas, called Texas Bigfoot Research Center, and so when I started, it was like the late 90s, early 2000s. I was probably like in my 30s and Steven was always with me all the time is my nephew, so I used to take him out on outings all the time so he would go with me. He's actually done more. He's actually been in the woods more than some of the other Bigfoot researchers.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't that be fun to go in the woods and try to find Bigfoot?
Speaker 3:I feel like that's a jam. It wasn't fun when you're seven years old it's terrifying.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3:He was pretty terrified because I, you know, like I was a kid and I was like, oh my god, bigfoot's existed. What I thought, it was like an urban legend. Yeah, you know he was he was he was.
Speaker 4:He was pretty scared a lot but I had to reassure him all the time that I go hey, you're gonna be okay, bigfoot's not that violent at least I don't think he would always do that every time yeah so I used to be a bigfoot researcher and then I was a case director for a paranormal group here in uh north texas as well uh called uh paranormal investigations of north tex.
Speaker 4:So I was a case director for them for 10 years. I was recruited by Kendall Rubio and so I've done a little bit of Bigfoot and the paranormal and so the podcast is like our version of just critiquing people now. So I kind of equate it as the sports illustrated for the like the cryptids and like the paranormal. So I've done a bunch of research and like in the field I've done, you know, x, y and z, and so it's our way of kind of like critiquing other people or just kind of bringing people who had experiences on like to our show and kind of just like explain their, their situation and try to help them out, at least steven. What do you think?
Speaker 3:yeah, I think we, we kind of give them different avenues of uh and thought process of why they witnessed it, you know, because they're all like I was just camping, I don't know what I, what I did wrong and I don't know why it was angry. I mean, you know, there's a couple reasons why. Uh, you know stuff like that, or if they just built new property on on a, like a land and stuff, and then this you know all these this change, this massive change to their environment.
Speaker 3:You know you kind of just build property on on a bigfoot's like living room so of course they're going to be like curious or aggressive or whatever. So we kind of you know pinpoint, you know ask questions of you know what day it was, was it at night? Was it a day, you know, did you have any food out? And you're burning trash stuff like that. So we we're like I guess we're so resourceful on that when it comes to like that, because I mean they don't.
Speaker 3:You know these people. They didn't ask to witness. You know to like that because they don't. You know these people. They didn't ask to witness. You know situations like that, absolutely yeah. They don't, you know, they're terrified and they're talking, you know, talking out loud and it makes them sound they feel crazy, you know, and they shouldn't, because they saw something that is unexplainable. So I think, yeah, we're, I think we're kind of therapeutic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, A little bit, yeah, cause we let them know I was like hey, it wasn't your fault, you know it's so happens.
Speaker 4:So I wanted to add on as well since I was with the TBRC and the uh Pentex I I've interviewed hundreds and hundreds of people and and sometimes I would bring cases home and I would talk to Steven about it, about this, or hey, uh, they saw this on. You know this, this part of the river, this part of the lake or this part of the creek, and so we we kind of like bounce stuff off each other and so at a very young age he's got he, he was like, uh, you know, he was right in that, that. Think of it, of just like finding out I was a sponge. Yeah, you were like a sponge, and stuff.
Speaker 2:So and you liked it, but you were scared of it at the same time I was terrified.
Speaker 3:It like I wanted to be like, uh, not in the front lines, like I wanted to be in like a command center in a van that was safe uh, that was fully armed, just in case. But no, like I, I was just at the same time I wanted to be close to my uncle, just in case something happened, I don't know. Just at the same time, I wanted to be close to my uncle, just in case something happened.
Speaker 4:I don't know why, I'm a kid he, you know he says all that he was scared. But there's been like many times where we were like in, uh, you know, native american, uh, tribal area and I would get out of the vehicle at night to go do something, and we had some, like some people with us to go where you going and steven would just jump out of the car and just jump, just run with me because I want to be with my uncle, you know, in case something happens yeah, like because at the time you know, safe right like you were at the time.
Speaker 3:I didn't know, like anyone, you know, if something were to happen to him. I'm like there's other stuff in the woods snakes there's, there's's other types of stuff that I could help him walk on. Bigfoot.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this one, I think at that instant we're in Oklahoma. Right, we're in Concho Concho, Oklahoma.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I know there's coyotes out there and all that stuff, but yeah, I was like no, I want to be right next to him, just in case something happens. You know that's all it is.
Speaker 4:So it's basically we just like to talk about the subject and we talk about other stuff. Like you know, when we interviewed you you know you didn't have anything with Bigfoot, I just was. I was interested in your podcast she did have something with Bigfoot.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, she did Very, very awesome, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:As a young child, my brother, I'd put him in the back of my Power Wheels, bigfoot and then he would flop off the tailgate.
Speaker 3:And technically, it was your brother that had the Bigfoot sighting. Yeah, Apparently he got ran over by it. Well, you know. Oh yeah, what did it look like? Did it smell? Bad it was moving fast. It was moving fast.
Speaker 2:I wonder if he has a negative association with Bigfoot. I'll have to ask him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's terrified of Bigfoot just because of that incident. Thanks, kelly, bigfoot almost killed me.
Speaker 2:It ran me over multiple times.
Speaker 4:You were a certified Bigfoot. Yeah, if he wants to come on the show on Bigfoot Club.
Speaker 3:We'll help him out. Let him know.
Speaker 2:Maybe he needs to work through that trauma.
Speaker 1:You guys could be there, maybe from that situation have you ever seen bigfoot heck, no, no, maybe, but I would never know oh, you would know, I think you would know I mean, like what if she was like really really far in the woods and like I was like, oh, what was that? And I was like, oh, it's probably just a deer.
Speaker 2:Maybe you never know. Maybe, but usually people will see. So if people do see Bigfoot, don't they usually see like a big creature?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean there's other things that are associated with. There's, like you know, they like whistle, grunt, howl, scream, mimic, they mimic other animals as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, remember, Stephen, you told me that one time you heard Robert, but it wasn't him. It was.
Speaker 3:Bigfoot.
Speaker 5:Do you remember?
Speaker 3:Well, he does go by, Bigfoot Bob.
Speaker 4:Tom, what's in that?
Speaker 2:I swear you told me a story where you you heard him and then you, but he wasn't there and or maybe that was other people that were hearing voices you were with like a bunch of people.
Speaker 3:I think I think it was another person where they heard something else. Okay, no, I would remember that, because that would. That would terrify me, yeah, like mentally, like oh shit, that wasn't him. Oh, I'm sorry, do we, can we curse?
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry. Have you heard Mackie's language? You can swear.
Speaker 3:Oh that's right, that's right, he's a certified turtle. It's okay, certified cursor. But no. I think, yeah, we've heard grunts Me and him heard grunts and rocks thrown at us. Sticks, sticks, spikes, spikes. We've heard grunts, me and him heard grunts and rocks thrown at us.
Speaker 5:Sticks, sticks, spikes.
Speaker 3:Spikes.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I know so yeah no, I think.
Speaker 1:I mean I would never know, because I've never like no signs of it.
Speaker 2:So you only believe.
Speaker 1:I'm not like against it.
Speaker 2:Do you only believe in things that you've seen?
Speaker 1:No, I'm not against it, but you're not against it or against it. I'm not against it, like I don't even know what to think. Okay, yeah, well, I will say this.
Speaker 4:Mac, your, your state has a lot of water and that's what Bigfoots thrive on, and so any any place that has water and it has big game, it's probably going to have a Bigfoot Probably. And it has big game, it's probably going to have a big foot Probably. So that's just my field research, doing stuff, and so I don't know, like in Texas, we have these electrical right-of-ways that kind of go through counties. I don't know if you have that there, kelly where there's like a big electrical poles that kind of go through the woods and there's like a clear cut through there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't have big. I know what you're talking about because you've been to Texas. You've probably seen it. I've seen that, but ours isn't set up quite like that.
Speaker 4:How about gas right-of-ways, where they have a gas line cut through the ground and there's a clear cut through the counties and stuff like that? No, no.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm sure I mean I'm probably not the best person to know that, but I just know, that ours don't look like yours, but we probably have some kind of system like that.
Speaker 4:Cause, like I w, I would just say cause, like in Texas, bigfoot's use that like as a sidewalk to walk through a County. You know, anytime there's a clear cut. If you were looking for footprints or scat or broken branches or something like that, that's usually where you end up finding them, because it's like I said, it's almost like a sidewalk going through a county, and so I used to tell people I'd go, just go look for electrical right-of-way, gas right-of-way, you'll find whether there's Bigfoot there or not.
Speaker 3:So can you imagine if you came across one like a Bigfoot huddle? A Bigfoot huddle, like they're there and they're telling like, okay, this is what we're going to do. You're going to go down there and you're going to take Bigfootie over there, junior, and you're going to take Big reminds me of.
Speaker 2:Did you see? I am legend and, like all, the zombies are like huddled together.
Speaker 3:That's what I envisioned that's where I was going with a big foot huddle yeah, that's what I was thinking. You came across that, and then they look at you like he knows too much that would be kind of scary that would be scary yeah do you guys believe in ghosts?
Speaker 4:scary. That would be scary. Yeah, do you guys believe in ghosts? Oh yeah, uh yeah. Oh yeah, I was like I said, I was a. I was a case director for a paranormal group for 10 years, so, um, yeah, we've, we've, I've seen stuff, and I know steven I've seen stuff more than bigfoot.
Speaker 3:I will say that yeah, um and you want to.
Speaker 4:You want to say a couple stories on that, oh, the only times that.
Speaker 3:I guess there's one where, come on, I'm going to use this one. I think you know where I'm going with it. When my uncle Robert, whenever he was sick and he flatlined for seven minutes, I'm pretty sure we told you that one, kelly right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was on. They brought him back, they had him on the ventilator and he was like out and one of the days that we're going to take out the ventilator I wanted to go see and make sure everything was going to be alright and all that stuff. And I was going to his room and the room next to him and the it's the ICU, right, it was CCU, ccu. Okay, one of the rooms next to him was empty and they just like folded up like the blankets on the bed or whatever, and I saw a guy in like one of those hospital gowns sitting next to the bed. He looked confused and I was like walking kind of quick to go to the room. I just happened to look in that room. It was empty, but I saw the guy in there. Then I passed, I looked and I go. Why is that guy just sitting there?
Speaker 5:looking at the bed. I went back. He was gone.
Speaker 3:Within two seconds.
Speaker 2:Do you think he had just passed? And then was like confused about?
Speaker 3:yeah, I, I think so, and I think that was like the most heartbreaking thing after like, because it was replaying in my mind and I didn't want to tell robert you were in no like condition to be. Hey, you know this all goes, man, you're gonna be like what, hey, no, tell me that now especially after yeah, no, so that lined and in hat you mean you were, you had passed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah at that time, though, he did not know that he passed yeah okay uh, no, nobody wanted to tell him that and we were like we just asked him hey, do you remember anything, or you're just like? No, I just I remember I fell asleep. It was like a dream. Okay, that's all we're gonna.
Speaker 4:We're not gonna tell him yet yeah, my, my older brother was telling me uh, one of my older brothers was saying hey, did you see, uh, dad? Because my dad had passed in 03 and my sister steven's mom, passed in, uh, you know, 06. And they said hey, did you see dad, did you see sandra? And I go, what, what are you talking about? And they were like like shh, don't say nothing.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I just remember seeing that and I think you saw him too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like right before they took the ventilator out of my you know, out of me I couldn't talk, so I couldn't communicate with anybody. But I would wake up sometimes like at three, four o'clock in the morning and I was like there was no nurse. I was right by the nurse's station but I could hear them talking but I couldn't see them. And there was this old man walking by with one of those IV stands. He was walking with it and he walked by like two or three times and after they took the ventilator out, I asked one of the nurses. I said, hey, how's that old man doing? I go see him, like walking through at three in the morning and she looked at me like confused and she goes, baby, there's nobody on this floor that can walk. And I go, what? And she goes, there's nobody on this floor, because maybe he came off another floor. I go, yeah, maybe, yeah, that still gives me goosebumps. And so after, after all that stuff happened, steven told me this story and I go holy shit, that's what it was the same guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had, he had side hair on his. He was bald on top, yeah yeah, he looked like in his 60s maybe yeah, yeah, he'd look, he looked like he was, like he was lost, yeah. He had a blank stare in his face and I still remember that.
Speaker 5:Just by looking at the side of him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I it still plays on my mind because I'm all like man, like why did I see that? And I I took that as a kind of a negative warning sign. I was worried too and I was like man, please, like, we just got him back, please don't. Whatever it is, I, we just got him back, Please don't. Whatever it is. I don't claim that negative energy. I don't want it. I'm just going to just see it as some unlucky soul that was confused.
Speaker 4:If you ask me, I think you just have energies that other people don't have. That's just what I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and at that time I was through so much emotions. I think it just channeled that for me to see it you were like a Roman candle. Yeah and uh, I just happened. He looked like. He didn't even look like a ghost, he just looked like sitting down, yeah. A full apparition of him just sitting down and um.
Speaker 2:you said at the time when you saw it, like you weren't thinking like oh that man looks weird or like translucent or anything like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I just well, I just thought it was weird, Like why is he sitting by himself and I something told me to walk back those three steps? That I did, and I walked back three steps and he was gone. I was like, why did I do it? I should have just kept walking. I don't need this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cause like the, the angle that I had kelly was like I was laying on my back, I couldn't move and I could see my feet and I could see like the headboard and it was one, there was like a two doors and it was one door open and one door closed and so I saw him maybe like two or three seconds as he's walking by and I could I could hear like the wheels on that, on that ivy thing, kind of shaking a little bit. So I knew he was there. I go okay, he's walking.
Speaker 5:He's walking.
Speaker 4:That's cool, yeah, right on, and so I just didn't know it was something that wasn't really theirs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have you ever seen a ghost?
Speaker 3:Yeah you know no.
Speaker 1:Remember that one time, when he's a cat, was it a ghost?
Speaker 2:ghost I was running, we can tell that story you're so freaked out? You said you saw a ghost cat yeah, well, so I when, when we first got bunnies, I had like a camera set up in the house so I could see them like and just make sure like I don't know.
Speaker 2:They were fine and I forgot. So then one night on the camera, like you know, you get in motion. If there's any motion, that like gives you an alert, like there was motion at this time. And so I'm like, oh, that's really weird, I wonder what motion was detected at you know 2, 30 in the morning and all of a sudden I like see this crazy thing like run by and it looks like a small child. I am like what the fuck was that? I've never gotten any kind of ghost vibes in this house. Everywhere else I've lived I feel like I've had ghost experiences, but here I've never felt that. I've lived in this house for 19 years.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I'm showing the girls at work. I'm like you've got to see this video. I'm so freaked out, I don't even want to go home. And everyone is like, oh my God, yes, that is a small child. And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so creeped out. And then, and then I'm thinking like who is this small child ghost Like why are they in our house? Where did they come from, whatever? So anyway, I, it was Chucky, it was Chucky.
Speaker 2:So I show the video at home and they're like we were watching my sister's cat and I totally forgot about that and it was the cat's tail that went whipping by the camera and I was like, oh my gosh, I feel so stupid and once I knew that's what it was, I could totally tell it was just the cat running behind its tail. It was like it's falling apart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that one was debunked. Debunked, debunked.
Speaker 1:You said that you used to feel jima yeah, like I always do random, like noises on my bed, it was so weird yeah, but how?
Speaker 5:did you, how did you, how did you?
Speaker 1:I want to do it, or like there's a big noise like you know when you sit on a bed. Sometimes it creaks. Yeah, I'd be like that noise like randomly and you said that you could like.
Speaker 2:If you looked you'd see like an indentation of like where she was sitting yeah, sometimes, yeah, maybe it was like obvious mackie, did you feel like love, or did you feel scared?
Speaker 4:I mean, how did you feel? Do you recall?
Speaker 1:I mean I was like oh okay, I was like probably loved most, if anything, I remember when it was happening and we were talking about it, like you said.
Speaker 2:Well, I just know it's jima looking after me and I'm not scared yeah, because it never happened until like she wasn't like there, no more so she died yeah yeah, it's like a ghost thing, though.
Speaker 4:That's what we're talking about did it happen like right after she had passed, I I'm. If it's like a ghost thing, though that's what we're talking about. Did it happen like right after she had passed? I'm.
Speaker 1:If it's too sensitive, I'm sorry but it was probably like I don't know like months after.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Still fairly new yeah.
Speaker 2:It's fair he was like so nonchalant about it. Like I remember we like oh yeah, I see G-Ma, she comes and visits me in my room when I'm and watches me play video games. And I was like what? And then he told me what he just told you and I was like oh, I like that.
Speaker 4:Do you have Kelly? Do you have any safe keeps of her? Do you have like jewelry, necklaces, rings?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a lot of her stuff and I even have her. I mean, she's in this bedroom where I'm in my room right now, and she's in my room. I have her ashes, so I talked to her all the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, big source. So ashes.
Speaker 4:So that you know, because, like we always believe that, like wood, stone, metal objects can retain energy. Sometimes metal objects can retain energy. Sometimes, like whenever someone says my house is haunted, and most likely it's probably like the ground, like it's either like underwater, like water, like a creek under their house, because water is a big conductor of energy. Limestone, quartz, quartz is a big conductor of energy. So if someone died violently in the house, there's a lot of emotion and energy there and sometimes it gets trapped and so it's almost like a like a like a vhs tape just constantly playing over and over.
Speaker 4:So and you know, you have a lot of her safe cake, you know her, her items, and then you have her ashes there. Yeah, so that's understandable, that Mac felt a lot of that stuff, so it's like a conductor, so she had a lot of love for him, a lot of love for her, so it's just going to constantly flow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we always welcome her presence. If she wants to show up, my brother will say he'll smell her, he'll get whiffs of her, that's powerful. I don't get that.
Speaker 4:That's a lot of energy, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow, but all of us siblings have a lot of her things.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I also tell people a lot of times whenever they're talking about something haunted in your house. I always ask them all the time I said where does the power come in from the electric pole to your house? Because sometimes that corner of the house will have more, it will harness more energy than anything. So ghosts, in theory, uh, need energy to be seen or heard or smelled or whatever. And then I ask them hey, where's the electrical box at in your house, like the circuit breaker?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And a lot of times that corner of the house will have sightings more than any other house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's interesting, sorry, yeah. Yeah, so do you have any questions about bigfoot or paranormal activity not anymore.
Speaker 1:No no nothing, you know, I mean you can.
Speaker 4:You can ask us questions about games. Steven's really big in the games.
Speaker 2:What game do you play, steven? What's like your go-to video game?
Speaker 3:uh, right now, I've been playing this is gonna sound bad, but I've been playing ready or not? Uh, because I I recently, uh, through the help of my wonderful uncle, uh got a gaming pc oh my god um, and I started playing, ready or not, and it's a it's like a swat base type game and they put you in real life scenarios of like hostage situations and you have to.
Speaker 3:It's very realistic very, very realistic, every this you can go through the side and the back of the door, whatever, and then you press a certain key to tell the suspect to go. You know, put your hands up and all that stuff you want to say no, no, tell them what other game you're playing too.
Speaker 4:What other game were we talking about earlier? Marvel arrivals?
Speaker 3:no, um, about the, the podcast oh yeah, there's another one called searching for bigfoot oh yeah that's a tv show too, isn't it?
Speaker 2:that's finding bigfoot I'll find you um yeah, but it it's.
Speaker 3:It's the same premise. Uh, yeah, but it's. Uh, it's a, it's an indie video game. That are video game that you start off in the middle of the woods near your van. You get your stuff, your camera, your flashlight, nightstick, the night glow stick.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and you walk through the woods. I watched the video on film. Play that game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you walk through the woods and you find like it's realistic too, because I played like the first hour nothing happened, Nothing happened. And I was like, yeah, that's typical, yeah, Typical.
Speaker 1:It's hard to find them in a gaming family. Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's an infinite. It even says it on the description. It's an infinite like wood and you're in the woods and it's just an infinite woods. Yeah, you find river and I'm like, okay, I'll stay on the river and I'll walk the river line and see if I can find a Bigfoot. Nope, nothing. The first like 72 minutes of absolute nothing. And then I had to go pick up the boys from school. I was like, oh, I was kind of hoping I would see Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:So the game board never ends it just kind of like repeats itself.
Speaker 3:It kind of like repeats itself. It kind of repeats itself until you find, uh, until you find bigfoot, and it'll tell you too, like you, you've been smelled by bigfoot, you're you're weird, you're being stalked by bigfoot and I was like, oh crap, like it's supposed to, like it's supposed to give you that fear.
Speaker 3:And then it has your heart monitor on the side too, and it's like it speeds up um, and then I guess, at the very end, if he finds you, he's like you've been found by Bigfoot, yeah he kills you without you even noticing.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because I started the game recently and I was like, okay, apparently you can carry a bunch of batteries for your flashlight and you need that. So I was just getting batteries and I got up to 60 and then the screen went red and said you've been caught by bigfoot. Maybe you should have not been in the dark for so long. I was like what? I was gathering batteries, gathering batteries. I was like this bigfoot's a coward face me.
Speaker 4:But what, uh, what do you win? The game you have to find.
Speaker 3:You win it by he finds you yep nice, that's interesting so what was you gonna say?
Speaker 4:I was gonna say what other? What other gaming system are you playing?
Speaker 3:oh man, I have, uh, I have the gaming pc, and then I have a playstation 5 and also I have xbox and also I have a switch so what games are you playing on those? On the the PlayStation 5, I'm playing like Elden Ring, Silent Hill 2.
Speaker 2:Silent Hill that movie was. I couldn't even watch that movie. I had to fast forward through most of it, the movies.
Speaker 3:They don't do it justice. I mean, the first one is okay, the game is scarier. I think the game is scarier. Silent Hill 2 is like one of my favorite horror games because it's psychological horror. Um, what else? Uh? Resident evil 7. Resident evil 8 village. On the playstation 5 xbox I'm playing the indiana jones the last circle and that one's pretty good, um, but yeah, mostly on the gaming pc now do you play online or do you play like by yourself?
Speaker 3:I play mostly by myself, but I'm not like I'll play with online, like with if I'm close to people and they're like, hey, you want to play some, like you know, call of duty or or whatever other multiplayer game that we play. We mostly play like indie multiplayer games, like we're playing, uh, nuclear nightmare, and that's like you're in alaska and you're trying to find, uh, you're trying to get out and you're being chased by, like this alien entity and it's, and it kind of reminds you of something. I'm not going to say what it is, what is it? What does it remind you of? The Thing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the movie John Carpenter's the Thing. That's literally the Thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it mimics you too. So if it'll like the game records your voice, so it'll. If I go, if my character goes around looking for something and my other group's not paying attention, it can mimic me and then go to the group and then you can hear my voice. It's like he'll be like hey guys, what are you doing? What are you doing? And it goes like real deep and they're like david, is that you? And I'm like no, it's not me, it's not me, it's creepy run do you ever get creeped out when you're playing those games?
Speaker 3:yeah, that one was creepy because we were playing and thinking, oh okay, and then I heard my voice talking when I wasn't talking and I looked around, I go what the shit, what the? Shit is that? And then they were asking me hey, is that, is that you? I go no, I'm over here, and oh, that's not steven. So it's yeah, that one's a good game to play how do you find those indie games? Uh through the great uh steam. It's a program.
Speaker 3:It's where you get all the games and they're really. They really they have every game that's available, but there's like a lot of independent games that are not on console and they're awesome yeah, I was gonna say it's like the quality of them good yeah, it's not bad for it being independent, like there's some really really awesome indie games that I'm starting to love more than triple a games. So it's, yeah, it's I always.
Speaker 4:I was walking on him while he's playing games and I I try to commentate you know, commentate all the time, like he's he's doing something, I go, hey, jump over there, he's already doing it. You know, all the time, like he's he's doing something, I go, hey, jump over there, he's already doing it. Hey, hey, shoot that guy. He's already doing it. And like, like the third or fourth time I'll say it, he'll stop the game and look at me and go really.
Speaker 3:No, you like, you like. The one I remember is when I was playing Resident Evil Village and there was like a bunch of those lichens and I just threw a grenade right at that. No, I had a grenade launcher and I shot at that little flame barrel or whatever and it blew everybody up and you go, that's awesome, and you walk to it yeah, I tease him a lot whenever he's playing video games you don't play. Robert.
Speaker 4:I used to when I was younger. I, I, I kind of I can't, you know I started with you know it's gonna, it's gonna age me the, you know, atari and super nintendo and nintendo and nintendo 64 nintendo 64 playstation one I I got the first playstation and then after that I kind of quit. I got into comics and I kind of just put my money in comics.
Speaker 3:But the awesome thing was that all those consoles he gave to me yeah, I gave to him.
Speaker 2:Oh, that worked out good for you.
Speaker 4:And then bought him consoles later.
Speaker 5:It hasn't changed.
Speaker 4:I spoil him, I swear, I spoil him so much.
Speaker 2:Like you, you're spoiled all the time. I like it a lot.
Speaker 3:But I'm not a certified turtle.
Speaker 2:What game are you playing on Xbox right now?
Speaker 1:Right now I'm playing a lot of GTA oh okay. Ooh.
Speaker 5:And then are you playing both of your buddies? Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3:And then, what are you playing on PC?
Speaker 1:Well, on PC I play a lot of Lethal Company and Buckshot Roulette. Lethal Company what Buckshot Roulette? Yeah, it's like a shotgun and it's like it'll tell you, like how many duds and live rounds there are, and like you get like items to like win the game.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're not like killing somebody.
Speaker 1:No, you don't actually kill somebody, you fight versus like a bot or something okay see, I've learned something new.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that you're playing those games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, logan really played a lot. When he comes over, he always, he always turns on my pc and he always plays that the buckshot roulette yeah mac I was gonna ask you on Grand Theft what type of music is playing on those, because usually they play music right yeah, sometimes there's like actual music and then like a lot of their music is like made up, like it's not real, it's just like like fake country music unless you have like the radio on in the car yeah, and sometimes like there is some like the baby songs, Kendrick Lamar, there's a lot of that songs in there but I doesn't play very often on the radio.
Speaker 1:Got it, he's big into music so he doesn't often know, Huh.
Speaker 4:What type of music do you guys like?
Speaker 2:Well, I like, my go-to is rap.
Speaker 4:Same. Yeah, Because you're always singing. I always hear you singing on your podcast.
Speaker 1:I love all music. Yeah, your white girl songs.
Speaker 2:Especially my white girl songs. What?
Speaker 1:does that mean Like what? Like basic white girl songs.
Speaker 2:Like what Like like what?
Speaker 1:like Taylor Swift yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Lainey Wilson no, I mean, I'm not a huge country person. I don't even know if I could sing you a Lainey Wilson song.
Speaker 3:Neither am I, but I love Lainey Wilson yeah, well, she's really pretty.
Speaker 2:If that's what you're talking about. Do you love her voice or other things?
Speaker 3:I love her voice.
Speaker 5:Nice, try I'm married.
Speaker 3:She just has a wonderful voice. I'll leave it at that, okay.
Speaker 2:Boring. I love like 90s country. I could sing you every 90s country song, old music, because I know I am old and I listen to what my parents listen to. So I just feel like I don't know a lot of new music.
Speaker 4:I'm not as good as that as like old stuff I know, I know, whenever I listen to your podcast you're singing and I can hear matt goes, oh god, or he goes, he goes, go you like Tom goes. You don't know that song. He goes. No, mom, I don't know it.
Speaker 2:Well, sometimes like we'll be in the car and all of a sudden he'll start singing the words and I'm like because you sing it over and over. And he's like well, mom, you sing it all the time and I'm like you actually listen, listen to me. Aww, you do pay attention. Of course I pay attention.
Speaker 4:Mac, I just wanted to tell you your mom's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1:I just want you to know that, oh, I know my mom's amazing.
Speaker 4:Not a lot of moms will do a podcast with you and always be interested in what you're doing all the time, because I think that's super cool and I laugh so hard whenever I listen to y'all.
Speaker 2:He's going to listen to our podcast all the time.
Speaker 4:Oh man.
Speaker 3:But yeah, you like 90s country or earlier country than that, or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:I feel like 90s country is what I grew up listening to, so I feel like I know a lot of that better. I don't know that I necessarily like, choose to listen to it, but like at work, we'll listen to. So I'm the dj at work in my new job because, yeah, because I have, you know, like pandora, and so then I'll just be like what do you what, what do you want on the playlist today, and then I'll just shuffle what everyone likes.
Speaker 1:That's smart.
Speaker 2:And a lot of the girls like country, so then I'll put in country and then I'll know every song and everyone's like how do you know?
Speaker 4:every song At this job that you love a lot right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:It's so funny, it's so cute.
Speaker 2:Like, if I'm not there, they'll be like, oh it. Like if I'm not there, they'll be like oh, so quiet without you and your music.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, I'm glad you guys look forward to that yeah.
Speaker 5:Mixmaster Kelly up in the house.
Speaker 3:I love it. Yeah, we tried to find a.
Speaker 2:DJ name. But we couldn't. I I'm just not a person who has nicknames Like I am always just Kelly. So we tried to, at work, find me a DJ name. Nothing sounded right, nothing fit.
Speaker 4:We'll find something. Yeah, give us time, we'll find something for you.
Speaker 2:Make it be nice, because that's the thing. A lot of them are ridiculous names and I'm like no, of course, you're like one of our favorites.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:We, of course. You're like one of our favorites. Yes, we'll figure out a name. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:I'm all of your friends' favorite yeah that's true. I am the favorite mom of all the friends.
Speaker 4:I'm not surprised Laid back.
Speaker 5:Not surprised.
Speaker 4:But yeah, I think uh listening to your show it's uh. I know some of my other friends that I listen to your show and they're saying hey, man, you haven't been listening to our show lately and I go what?
Speaker 3:what happened. I'm trying to be on my best behavior, so, and they take it literally.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, I guess we're bad that's, like you know, the name of our podcast On Our Best Behavior is very sarcastic Because we are never on our best behavior. We try to just be super broad.
Speaker 1:What, what? I didn't say nothing. What happened? You're crazy.
Speaker 2:You're never on your best behavior. Oh, that's just. That is how you normally talk. But I don't say you can't do that on the podcast, because that is who you are. I don't say you have to be on your best behavior.
Speaker 1:That's a good point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's why it's a facetious name.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Facetious, yeah, facetious. Very misleading I always think I'm mispronouncing that when I say it, it's facetious.
Speaker 2:And then it's funny because some people will send me like DMs and they'll be like Mac was not on his best behavior, the whole point.
Speaker 4:That's the whole point. I think I've DMed you before about that too, yeah maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that often from people. I'm like well, you know he is who he is.
Speaker 3:What can you do as long as?
Speaker 2:he knows where and when, that's totally fine, and he doesn't get in trouble at school, so he must know where and when.
Speaker 1:He'll never get in trouble at school.
Speaker 2:Whenever we have conferences, they're like oh, mackie is such a kind, sweet, good kid. I just wish that we had more Mackies. Well, they call you McCoy.
Speaker 1:Mackity, mack.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh, if you could only see him with his headset on.
Speaker 1:That's a different story.
Speaker 2:That is a different story. Sometimes, when I hear the things that you say when you're video gaming. I'm like I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.
Speaker 3:Rage quit. Yeah, yeah, no, it's like. Oh man, did I sound like that? Because when I hear the boys they play fortnite a lot and then they are super loud on the headphones I'm like, hey, everybody in the neighborhood can hear you. Okay, what exactly?
Speaker 2:on the weekends, you know we'll be trying to sleep and I can hear him like he's sitting right next to me and I'm like texting him like bro, you gotta be quiet. Other people are trying to sleep, like if you want to stay up, be considerate of others no, it's like exactly we.
Speaker 4:We always tell ricardo to put one ear on one off.
Speaker 1:That way he knows how loud he is all the time, and that still doesn't help. It still doesn't help.
Speaker 3:It does not help. So he'll be saying, like the weirdest things, like skibbity, toilet, and I'm all like what, what does that even?
Speaker 4:mean. This kid the F-bomb is strong. No, not Mackie.
Speaker 1:He's always on his best behavior.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is his best behavior. Sometimes I'll be like you can't say fuck anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Bro, why you maxed out on the fucks today okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you maxed out on the fucks today, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, every time I talk to your mom, Mac, I ask about y'all all the time I go how's Mac doing, How's he doing? Because it seemed like I listened to y'all so much I feel like. I know y'all so well, I mean, I think that we can say that we know each other well.
Speaker 2:Now, at this point, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3:But yeah, did I ever do? Was I ever loud on because I played the 360 with?
Speaker 4:Yeah, you didn't have headsets that much back then I did.
Speaker 3:I had a headset, but it was the one that was only covered one ear, mm, and I don't think I was ever loud and with the ear and the mic. Yeah, the ear and the mic, and the mic had a huge, like you know, Q-tip ball, yeah, like a call center headset yeah like a call center, exactly, and, yeah, like that thing lasted forever. No, you weren't that loud. Yeah.
Speaker 4:You weren't that loud. I just had to tell Steven one time.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I go. Hey, you weren't that loud I. I just had to tell steven one time yeah, I go.
Speaker 3:Hey, man you're too loud, he goes okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, sir, because there was like a couple times where like it was the weekend and you were like going to bed early or normal time yeah, and I would stay up like till three in the morning with jabron or something and we'd either spend the night or I'd play with him online. The stars won, and the stars that was our Kelly, that was our thing, that we figured that me and my best friend figured out, if we ever wanted to spend the night, or you told his house or him, come over, the stars will be playing. And I was like man, the stars are playing If they win. He's in a good mood and and and we tested it out many times and Robert never knew, we didn't tell him this until later and he never noticed it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it'd be like You'd say yes if they won and no if they lost.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So there were times where like, okay, star's lost, let me see, let me test this out. I go hey, robert, is it cool if Jaron comes over? I go over to his house and he would like, he would like do his face like a scrunch face, and then he'd be like, nah, you gotta, you gotta D that one. Uh, one report card two weeks ago and now you need to. I need you to know we're not tonight and I go well, that works. And then the next weekend the stars are playing, they won. I go okay, let's, let's see if this whole D thing brings up. Hey, is it okay if Jabron comes up? Oh, yeah, you guys want to order pizza?
Speaker 3:I was like oh shit, he would come over and he would look at me and go, I guess that's a thing, now that we're in, I can come over, and then we're like we tested out, like we don't really want to order pizza, let's go Jack in the Box.
Speaker 4:Yeah, come on, get in the car, we'll go in case you didn't know, I'm a big Dallas Star fan, so yeah, I figured that out just now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is that baseball?
Speaker 5:huh is it baseball? No, it's hockey, it's hockey, it's hockey yeah.
Speaker 3:So if the Stars won, we we took that as our advantage and stuff. And you would ask me too, because hey, he's bitch, that's the way I go the stars. He goes the stars playing Friday. I had to play Wednesday, so he's usually still kind of mad. So we'll, we'll, we'll test it out too. And sometimes he said yeah, sometimes he said no.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But it was. If it was the night before or the night of and they won, you were in a good mood. Yeah, I'll go pick them up. It was funny, those dudes.
Speaker 2:I tell Max's friends now that I have to see their report card grades if they want to spend the night, because they have to have Caesar better, otherwise they can't come.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Well, we're going to never have you dude?
Speaker 4:So come on now, yeah, that's why he's not probably gonna come over anymore. Oh, oh, geez. Well, I I used to tell steven, like all steven's friends, like I like if steven had a friend I had to meet him, I have to talk to him, I have to quiz him, I have to ask him questions. I said he goes. Hey, I got a new friend, charlie. I said I don't know this Charlie, I don't know what he does. You can't hang out, okay godfather.
Speaker 3:Okay, he's calling the godfather.
Speaker 2:Mackie doesn't really have a lot of friends, so, dude, I do. I usually am like, oh yeah, sure you have a new friend dude, I have a lot of friends.
Speaker 1:You just don't know a lot of them.
Speaker 2:Your last friend, I saw me, I didn't know, called you a homeless. Oh yeah, noah, yeah, he said your last friend I saw called you a homeless. Oh yeah, noah, yeah, he said, you look like a homeless.
Speaker 1:I've known him for like a while, though.
Speaker 4:Mackie, do you have a girlfriend?
Speaker 1:Heck. No, that's too much work for me, dang.
Speaker 2:Do you have a girlfriend, Robert?
Speaker 4:Oh no, no Strong words from a strong man. I'm going the Mackieackie vibe there, so no all right. Well, we have a couple of single bachelors up in the podcast yeah well, shoot your dms if you want to go on a date mackie I I tell your mom last time we talked I go if, if you got out of control for her to send you down to Texas to hang out with us.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think we'll be good role models.
Speaker 2:Down to Texas.
Speaker 4:You can play Fortnite. You can play Fortnite over here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can play Fortnite with twin boys that are eight years old that say Skippy Toilet a lot, skippy Toilet For no reason.
Speaker 5:Mackie said Poopy Jack a lot when he was little.
Speaker 2:You said a lot of weird things too, when you were younger, and you would think it was so funny Poopy Jack. And you always said it was what it sounded like Poopy Dick, yeah, and he always said Poopy dick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, ricardo had to get, not get after him, but I had to like, because he was like saying words and he's like me and you, we always like Change the wordings, or something like that. So he was like saying, like Harry Potter, harry Potter.
Speaker 2:You do that too, do your British bonkers.
Speaker 1:Absolute bonkers.
Speaker 4:That's pretty good. Go on it.
Speaker 3:Absolute bonkers, absolute bonkers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man yeah.
Speaker 5:Well, is there anything else that you guys?
Speaker 2:want to talk about.
Speaker 4:No, not really. I mean, this was just a conversation. Yeah, it was just a conversation um.
Speaker 2:I know the only thing I wanted to say we spent the day at the mall of America today oh, that's huge, though, right yeah, but it's so big like it kicks your butt how many square feet is that place? I don't know, over a million I don't, I don't know, I don't know the square footage of it, and I lost my phone as because I lose my phone about nine times every day, and so I lost it right before he sat down and I don't know where it is.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, he's like mom, you struggle, but let me tell you what did you call it.
Speaker 2:The Mall of America is not heated. They use all of the skylights and body temperature and light fixtures to heat the whole joint.
Speaker 4:What the heck? That's weird. That is weird.
Speaker 2:I don't even know how I feel about that. They don't have heat and it's always hot in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's always hot in there yeah.
Speaker 2:So, Wow.
Speaker 4:The only thing I wanted to mention, kelly, was that my older brother you know I don't know if I told you he does a comic book called El Gato Negro and he's actually got onto Amazon. They actually did a series on it. So they're going to release it this year I don't know when. So I'm pretty excited about that. That's huge. Yeah, I'm writing for his comic book right now. So, um, I'm helping him. I'm not writing for the show, I'm writing for his comic book, but, um, but he, he's going to have that. And so Stephen and I are going to do and we're going to create another podcast where we're the. We're going break, like, break down each episode and just talk about it and hopefully get some of the actors on to uh, interview them and stuff.
Speaker 3:so yeah, that would be awesome yeah, it is we?
Speaker 4:I'm so happy for him and uh, he, he, you know he has this one character and then he's trying to expand it. So he's kind of got me writing other characters and creating other characters for him. So I'm trying to expand his universe. And so he asked me to write a story about an Aztec sun god called Tanatu. And so I did that, I wrote it for him, and then he came back to me and says hey, can you change it to a movie script? And I go, I've never done it before.
Speaker 5:I go yeah.
Speaker 4:I guess. So I wrote it, I changed it from a comic book format to a movie script, and so he's pitching it now to MGM to see if he'll possibly make it. So I'm pretty excited about that, that's crazy, crazy good, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the only thing I got going in. You know our podcast and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2:How about you, Steven?
Speaker 3:I'm not writing any comic books, I am. I am I'm trying to read like a lot of books right now and we're, uh, we've had the the pleasure of having a author on, sean Warner Um, who's a terrific author. He's local here and he he wrote two books and he's writing two other books and I've just been working that, like you know, he he sends it to you early, right, yeah, he sent me his last book like three months before it came out, and so I was really happy about that. I go, man, I've never been a part of like a book club that will you know, get a early copy of the book before it's like published. Yeah, so, um, and he loves us too, right?
Speaker 4:yeah, he, he, he, he pushes us as much as he can. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well.
Speaker 4:I mean to be honest with you, I thought at first we were kind of stalking him at first. Yeah, cause like you know he he was on Tik TOK and he got really viral and Steven came up to me and goes, hey, we should interview this guy, sean Warner. He's local, he's doing like a, a like a paranormal book. I said I go reach out to him, see, see if we can. Yeah, so steven reached out to him. He didn't respond and like I think he was like gonna be at a couple of books something like.
Speaker 3:I forgot what it was called. It was in dallas, uh-huh. It was like a. It was a swap meet, swap meet and they have like shoes there and he was the only author there. Yeah, right, yeah, and he was right and we're like, hey, you know, we took the boys with us and they had to go to the bathroom. I was like man, we got to find him. It's a big, it's kind of like a big building, and we're like let's go to the bathroom. He was like right there.
Speaker 4:I was like oh, he's right there.
Speaker 3:Let's go. Hey, I wanted to buy your book and I was flat out honest with him. I go, but I want to buy it from you because I don't know how all of it go to you.
Speaker 4:Amazon was getting a big cut out of it.
Speaker 3:He was like oh, I appreciate it, he goes. No, all of it goes to me. I go oh well, I just wanted to buy it from you personally. Then we clicked from there.
Speaker 2:Did he sign it for you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, clicked from there and yeah, and did he sign it for you? Yeah, yes, of course, yeah, um, so I signed it. And uh, we've bought books from him and all that stuff. So, yeah, no, his wife's an author too right.
Speaker 4:Yep, she's lovely. She's lovely too, so yep, she.
Speaker 3:I always joke with her because she doesn't want to read dune. She says it's boring. So I was like she's like, oh yeah, I want to find, I want to read like a real big book. I go dude, no, I don't want to read them it's boring, yeah, she's.
Speaker 4:I mean they're both sweet, yeah, and they like. He was actually doing a interview at a. Was it a bookstore in?
Speaker 4:yeah, pentigo and pentigo okay and like we walked in late and he was being interviewed at this bookstore by another podcast and he started talking about us as we walked in. Oh wait, hold on. So he said he was. He was like inner being interviewed because oh big, uh, bigfoot clubs here and you know they did one of the best interviews. I go, oh my god, jesus christ, he's telling them that we did the best interview and he's being interviewed by someone else, like I go, oh my God, I felt so bad yeah.
Speaker 2:What I would have felt so good.
Speaker 4:I mean I was happy, but I felt bad for the lady that was interviewing him. So I don't know, I kind of yeah, that was us I have simply.
Speaker 3:But no, I think that's the only thing I'm doing. I try to to read like books from independent authors. I don't um cause they they write really, really interesting stories, because if you're a famous author like Stephen King, you already know what he does. He goes off the wall sometimes and I was like, I mean, I love Stephen King, but I was like man. I like horror books and psychological horror books and grief books, which Sean Warner touches base on.
Speaker 4:He touches base on teen grief A lot of grief stuff, yeah.
Speaker 3:And when I was a teenager, I went through a lot of grief and I'm processing it and dealing with it in my own way and I was, like man, I wish I had these books whenever I was a teenager, because it's really, really highlighted all the stuff I felt and all that stuff. So, yeah, I love sean warner he's. He's an amazing author he is.
Speaker 4:And I wanted to add also with this, kelly, that you know, whenever I'm, whenever I am writing stuff and I get stuck, I'll walk over to steve and I say, what do you think about this? Or I want to do this, I don't know how to get to this, and he gives me feedback and like we talk about it, and then he gives me a good idea and then I I run with it. So if he says he's not, he's not a writer, really, he kind of is, cause he helps me whenever I get stuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're always so modest.
Speaker 3:I, it's just I have a couple ideas of books I want to write.
Speaker 4:I books, I want to write. I'm just too lazy.
Speaker 3:I feel you he's got a pc now so he he doesn't have an excuse.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, damn it he does like he probably gets distracted playing games on the pc and then he doesn't right, yep, yep, there's so many games to play, it's a little time you can relate to that
Speaker 1:mac, yeah, I can't relate to that never enough time in the day, no or the night nope, nope, mackie. What do you? What do you want? To do whenever you grow up, I was thinking of plumbing or an electrician.
Speaker 4:Okay, yeah I would say it was, if it was my. If I were to go back in time and do it again, I would be a welder if it was my if I were to go back in time and do it again, I would be a welder. They make a lot of money. They make a lot of money plumbing and hac yeah they, they make really good money. But if I were to go back in time, I would. I would go back to be a welder, that's just me plumbing and electrician do both.
Speaker 2:Yeah, start a company that doesn't I don't know like you can make so much like side money doing that, because there's always somebody looking for that. But yeah, we got him. He's all set up. Next year he's going to go to the tech college that's by us for part of school and so then he can use that credit towards his college if it's something that pertains that credit towards his college.
Speaker 3:If he, if it's something that pertains, so he's kind of getting a head start on that stuff and make sure that he likes before he dives all the way in.
Speaker 2:So then you can kind of get a feel. For if he wants to do plumbing, electrician cabinetry, I think they have welding, they have concrete like a bunch of stuff, so he'll kind of get to dabble in all of that and then decide if that's anything that he's interested in.
Speaker 4:That's awesome. Yeah, that is awesome. See, I knew Mac was a good kid, I knew it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think he's the best.
Speaker 4:Macety Mac.
Speaker 2:Macety Mac Don't, mac back Don't.
Speaker 3:Really Macety.
Speaker 4:Mac, don't Mac back Mac. Do people call you Big Mac?
Speaker 1:yeah, actually a couple of people when he was a baby.
Speaker 2:I called him Baby Mac, baby Mac, little Mac.
Speaker 3:Macastoris Macula Macadocious there's so many Macaroni Manicotti. Yes, so delicious macadocious there's so many macaroni manicotti yes mackinoy, ahoy mccoy iMac, macbook Pro, imac, they're just infinite nicknames?
Speaker 2:yep, yeah, I have no nicknames, and this kid has a bajillion answers to anything.
Speaker 4:Give us time, kelly.
Speaker 3:We'll work on you, we'll work on you and we'll and if Mac talks back, you're all like are you talking to Mac?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Don't be talking, smack Mac.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, you just don't stop thinking of mom.
Speaker 3:Once we get rolling, we kind of just keep rolling.
Speaker 4:That's Bigfoot club style.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, that's me Bigfoot club style Some.
Speaker 4:that's me Bigfoot club style.
Speaker 2:Some people are like Big Willie style, but we're Bigfoot club style oh, show for life.
Speaker 4:Here's the mac daddy caddy mac daddy so I was gonna tell you I made nothing. I was gonna tell you we just released the Monica Rawlings interview today. Yeah, check, check it out. She's super amazing. Monica who Gallagher Sorry, Gallagher, I said Rawlings didn't. I yeah, you did.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you did, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I had to correct that so that way they can find it. Monica Gallagher.
Speaker 4:Monica Gallagher. Yes, sorry, sorry, I had to correct that so that way they can find it monica gallagher. Monica gallagher, yes, she is amazing. Yes, you guys follow her on instagram so I can find her from there. Yeah, I think she's at?
Speaker 2:she's at monica comics? I think so. At monica comics. Yeah, I was excited last night, robert.
Speaker 3:I was excited to see what some of her artwork looked like it's awesome yeah, it's really unique, really good yeah, no, what you said you wanted to yeah, she cusses a lot too, so it's kind of cool.
Speaker 4:I love that because she asks this is it okay if I cuss, I go.
Speaker 2:Yes, god damn it cuss that's right, better fucking cuss damn it yeah, so she's super amazing.
Speaker 4:I, I don't know, I can't can't say enough good things about her, so I'm getting jealous peeps so what's? What's funny is that my, my older brother doesn't know her, but he told me he goes, hey, you got to get her on your, your show. And I told her that. I said I got my older brother he does like an indie comic too and he told me I had to have you on. So you know, I'm asking you to come on. So did?
Speaker 4:she know him no, she don't know him at all, so he just saw her work and yeah, yeah, he saw her work and he just said hey, you need to cause like he'll do that to me, he'll call me, he goes. Hey, you should get this person on your, on your show and I go okay.
Speaker 2:People do that to me all the time I tried to get um. I tried to get Kylie Kelsey on my podcast.
Speaker 4:And then instead of her coming on our podcast you inspired, her in a way?
Speaker 2:yeah that's what. That's what my friend told me. She's like, look at you, you, you put the bug in her and now she's just doing her own podcast. I'm like, well, she could have at least agreed to do an interview with me.
Speaker 3:I mean, that would have been fair right, yeah, she looked at it goes. I don't want to be on someone's project.
Speaker 2:Probably got the idea from her husband, but I mean whatever.
Speaker 3:No, we're going to give you credit. Kelly Zurich. Yeah, we're going to give you credit on that one.
Speaker 4:Thanks, how's your chicken baby Good?
Speaker 2:but she's the first one to hatch and I just feel like she's the first one to hatch and I just feel like she's so lonely I gotta bring her upstairs Sometimes she's down there like chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, and I'm worried, like is she okay?
Speaker 4:Yeah, she probably is lonely.
Speaker 2:So I'm like come on, other babies start hatching and then they'll probably all hatch at the same time and then it'll be chaos.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh be chaos. Yeah, oh crap. I want to be lonely again, did you like? That usually thriving chaos, because then I have to deal with it versus like oh it's fine, I'm fine, everything's fine paisley.
Speaker 2:yeah, lonely, lone bunny. He's noisy at night. Yeah, we have a, we have a house bunny and he, yeah, and he just we call him the troll under the bridge because he just basically lives under my bed and then comes out to eat. But he's old, he's like eight and a half. That's old for money, but he likes food. That's all he cares about. And if I, he always gets like a salad at night with like carrots and blackberries, and then if I get to bed and I forget to give it to him, he'll like stomp at me. Bitch, go get my salad.
Speaker 3:It's funny when they get angry.
Speaker 2:It's like a tantrum. It is Thumper.
Speaker 3:Okay, thumper Jeez Like dang.
Speaker 4:How long do you do a show?
Speaker 2:Like this show or any show.
Speaker 4:Oh, you know I try.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know I try like if it's just me and Mac, we just try to hit 30 minutes. Um, like, I'm like once we get to 30, we just kind of see like, are we still having a lot to talk about or are we time to wrap it up? So we try to just do a minimum of 30.
Speaker 4:And then when I have guests.
Speaker 2:I usually try to shoot for like 45 to an hour or an hour five.
Speaker 4:So would you rather?
Speaker 2:would you rather? Would you rather no?
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 2:Would you rather ride your bike all over mall of America or rollerblade?
Speaker 1:Ride my bike, ride your bike. What?
Speaker 2:about the escalators. Dude, I will drive down the escalators ride your bike.
Speaker 1:what about the escalators? Dude, I will drive down the escalators on your bike, yeah yikes, I go downstairs on my bike all the time oh, I suppose you nice and then if I had to go up there, I just like I'll pick it up a little bit, I'll put on the stairs and hold it up there until I get up would you rather always have bad breath or bad bo?
Speaker 2:that's hard that is a hard one, bad breath, bad breath.
Speaker 1:I feel like bo. Like is more of a yeah, it's your area spread.
Speaker 4:It lingers, very lingers it stays sweaty.
Speaker 2:Maybe you could control it nobody should always oh yeah, you're right, you're right see I always try to overthink them.
Speaker 1:If I have bad breath, if I don't talk, I don't have bad breath. Yeah, it's true, Mac.
Speaker 4:would you rather hug a Bigfoot or hug a ghost?
Speaker 1:If I hugged a ghost, I'd be like hugging nothing. Probably a ghost.
Speaker 5:Depends if it is, is it a nice?
Speaker 2:is it Casper the friendly ghost, or is it like a poltergeist, Like?
Speaker 3:you know we need to know, I would say sure, sure yeah. It's stinky from Casper the movie.
Speaker 2:I feel like I would choose Ghost too, because in your game Bigfoot kills you. I don't want to die. What?
Speaker 1:do you guys pick?
Speaker 4:I would probably say Bigfoot.
Speaker 5:You'd rather hug Bigfoot.
Speaker 4:If someone catches me with him, then I would be iconic can I pick the ghost?
Speaker 2:yeah dead or alive, you would be yeah robert found bigfoot, but he's also dead.
Speaker 4:He also found a casket but can I?
Speaker 3:can I pick the ghost?
Speaker 2:Don't overthink it, you just pick one.
Speaker 3:I'd pick the ghost.
Speaker 2:Why See, it doesn't really change it.
Speaker 3:Because if it was my mom I'd hug her oh yeah.
Speaker 5:Right For sure.
Speaker 2:What about bad? Breath or BO. What are you picking for that?
Speaker 3:Bad breath? Yeah, Because I don't really like talking to strangers. Just breath. Yeah, Because you know I don't really like talking to strangers.
Speaker 5:Just keep it shut.
Speaker 3:I'll just keep it shut and be like you know, do thumbs up, thumbs down yeah.
Speaker 2:Nod.
Speaker 3:You hungry, thumbs up. You not hungry, thumbs down.
Speaker 4:Thumbs down. Yeah, how was your day? Thumbs up.
Speaker 5:I always say arms length from everybody.
Speaker 3:Yep, you can get away a lot with thumbs up, thumbs down, yep.
Speaker 2:In my line of work. I wish people would answer yes, no questions. It's my biggest pet peeve when I'm like do you this? And they're like, well, and then it's a whole story, like I just want to know yes or no Thumbs up thumbs down.
Speaker 3:Wow, one of my friends does that too, and he's all like, after the person will say the whole story thing, he'll just nod his head, he goes. You could have just said yes, Anyway. Oh my God, it's Lee dude.
Speaker 4:So that's lee dude, yes, yeah okay steven's friends used to always do that to me. I would ask him yes or no questions, and that would give me a big story. I call you not answering the question. Yeah, you're not answering the question, so that's yes or no.
Speaker 5:Yes or no right.
Speaker 3:Thumbs up, thumbs down I was like, well, that's a trick question. I'm like no, it's not, do you like? Do you like pepperoni, yes or no? Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:I don't need to know why you do or why you don't, or what happened to your brother, I just yes yeah, yes or no all right guys. Well, I think we're ready to wrap up this. Kid's got video games to play.
Speaker 3:Chinese food to eat? Are we talking about?
Speaker 5:me Huh.
Speaker 3:Are we talking about me and video games to play?
Speaker 2:No, mackie, maybe you do too, steven, what? Is the percent that your kids are going to be sleeping by the time you're done recording.
Speaker 3:Like I would say 100.
Speaker 2:100% they'll be sleeping.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if not, one of them will be out at least.
Speaker 4:They would have already been in this room already. They would have already been in this room trying to give us a hug, you know, or something already already been in this room.
Speaker 3:I try to give us a hug, you know, or something.
Speaker 4:However, I will not be surprised if they are up uh in uh our bedroom snuggling up with my wife, because they'll mama yeah they'll, they'll do that and then they'll pass out right then and there, and I'm like and then, and then they'll say it's saturday, yeah, like we don't have school tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll find, so then do you have to carry them to their bed.
Speaker 3:No, I used to whenever there were three At four back problems Starting to creep up. When you're carrying two, it's not fun. We wake them up.
Speaker 2:You just leave them there. Where do you sleep?
Speaker 3:There's the man cave couch, there's this chair that I'm sitting on. I'll just find a spot to flop. Yep, yeah, I do it. Lebron james style.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we we have our, we have our, we have our own like our own room for, like the podcast. So we just sit in here and fancy it has a record player bougie bitches bougie bitches, bougie bitches, yeah yep it has a record player too did you, you know, did you guys eat dinner already, or did you already eat, or?
Speaker 2:we had a big lunch, but I'll probably try to figure out. I I'll probably have a bowl of cereal or something.
Speaker 3:Hey, what kind of cereal.
Speaker 2:Right now we have Cheerios Oat Crunch and I really like it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would think, yeah, I like anything Cheerios.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one, cheerios is good, we had Cookie Crisp, but somebody ate most of it.
Speaker 1:Not me. What do you mean?
Speaker 4:The we had cookie crisp, but somebody ate most of it, not me. What do you mean? The Macadie?
Speaker 2:Mac, it was grandma. Yeah, yeah, I was hungry. It's good, isn't it?
Speaker 1:And I like things with milk. I know, I know you love milk.
Speaker 2:I know You're growing. You're going to have strong bones.
Speaker 1:Milk is the best.
Speaker 4:Yep, kaylee, thanks for having us on. We really, really enjoyed it. Can I? Can I promote the show really quick? Yes, absolutely, I want you to so people can find us on all our social media if they just type in Bigfoot Club One, and they can find us on Facebook, twitter I'm sorry X, instagram and TikTok if they just type in Bigfoot Club 1. They want to email us? It's at BigfootClub1 at Gmail and our website is wwwBigfootClubPodcastcom.
Speaker 2:Do it, you won't regret it. All right, guys? Well, thanks for being on our show, and we'll talk to everybody, Probably not next week maybe the week after Dep. We'll talk to everybody. Probably not next week, maybe the week after, depends on how we feel. Yeah, all right, hang on.
Speaker 4:Okay, sounds good Okay.
Speaker 5:Thanks.
