On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 15-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
Run With Purpose
What happens when a mother and her teenage son team up to tackle life’s quirks on a podcast? We’re joined by Kelli, co-host of the podcast "On Our Best Behavior," who shares this journey with her son Maccoy. Our episode uncovers the humorous yet insightful origins of their family podcast, where nothing is off-limits—from Maccoy’s genuine reactions to topics like menstrual cycles to the juggling act of blending parenting with podcasting. Kelli generously opens up about their experiences, offering a refreshing peek into their unique dynamic that blends teenage curiosity with parental wisdom.
Kelli's venture into podcasting started during the COVID pandemic, fueled by a love for survival TV shows and a desire to maintain an open dialogue with her son. She shares how their podcast became a medium for discussing complex life topics, aiming to inspire other families to engage in meaningful conversations. From addressing gender perspectives to sharing stories about school life and debating 'would you rather' scenarios, Kelli recounts the joys and hurdles they’ve encountered, especially when tackling subjects she's less familiar with, like astrology. Her reflections highlight the unexpected yet rewarding aspects of parenting through podcasting, offering insights that resonate with both parents and teens.
Throughout their podcasting journey, Kelli has experienced personal growth by stepping out of her comfort zone. She's navigated the challenges of introversion and learned communication skills, while Maccoy’s evolving confidence adds a delightful layer to their storytelling. The episode also touches on generational differences and the power of storytelling in connecting with diverse individuals. Kelli shares touching stories about reaching out to guests and discussing challenging topics, emphasizing the podcast’s role in fostering empathy and understanding. Join us as we celebrate the transformative power of personal storytelling and the connections it builds in our communities.
I'm like there's no reason to wonder. Google it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, we'll figure this out. There's there is, someone else has already figured out this problem and we're going to go through it together and it's going to be fine. Yeah, yeah, cool. Thanks for taking some time today to chat. Same, it's been a. I've been trying to my my life has just been nuts, so so it sounds like it there's just so many things, so many things.
Speaker 2:And now every time I look in the camera I'm just like man, that thing is big on my arm. But anyways, um, so yeah, you've listened to the show, so you kind of know how I, how I do things. But we'll, uh, I'll kind of run through the interest. I do it all, just live, because I'm lazy and I don't want to do it on the backend. Uh, so I'll play the intro music. I don't know if you can. Can you hear that music? Yep, okay, cool, so I'll, I'll mute us.
Speaker 2:I'll play the music, kind of bring everything in and then kind of run through my uh, where's my mouse? There it is Run through the spiel on the notes. Um, basically, I just follow. I never remember what my intro is, so I always have to read it. Uh, even though I've been doing it for a while. Um, and then I'll say thanks for joining me on the show today, you'll say thanks for having me, whatever, yada, yada, yada. And then I'll say you can plug all of your stuff. So you can plug the of your stuff, so you can plug the podcast, plug whatever you want to, and then we'll kind of just start talking. Like I said I'll probably start it with the like why for your podcast and kind of the whole idea behind it, and then wherever our conversation goes, that's where it goes okay, sounds good cool.
Speaker 2:Any questions, thoughts, comments concerns I don't think so.
Speaker 1:How about you? Anything?
Speaker 2:No, just going to just wing it, See we do this.
Speaker 1:We can talk about anything forever, right, because?
Speaker 2:we do this all the time. That's the problem. When I have people that have shows it's, I'm like all right, we need to make sure we have a hard stop at something because if we don't, three hours goes by and you're like shit, I forgot I had other things I needed to do.
Speaker 1:Right, we'll be good, we'll be good yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool, all right, I will mute us and we will get started. Okay, welcome to Run With Purpose. This is episode number 121. And for those of you that are new to the show, my name is Flores and I'm so very glad that you found this podcast, would love if you would subscribe and, as always, you can reach out to me on all the socials everywhere at floresrun. Hope everyone is having a great week. This week we have a guest. It's been a while since I've had a guest and I'm very, very excited for our guest today. I'll let her kind of do her introduction of everything, but we've been kind of connecting for the last shit. I think it was before I moved from Minnesota. We kind of started talking and then I was just like oh wait, I'm leaving Minnesota. So sorry we can't have a Minnesota, minnesotan podcast. But, kelly, thanks for being on the show today.
Speaker 1:Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be fun. We don't really know what we're going to talk about today. We're just going to kind of chat for a little while. We said just before we started recording that because we both have podcasts, this could just go off the rails and talk about 50 things for three hours. No, we're not going to make your eyes, ears bleed. Not going to do that to you no.
Speaker 1:But yeah, kelly, if you want to just introduce yourself and kind of plug all of your things so people know where to find you and connect with you, sure, so my name is Kelly and I host a podcast called Honor Best Behavior. I started that with my son and I can go into that full story for you. You can find me on Instagram. My handle, since I was 20 years old, is crazybeautifulkelly. Otherwise, you can find the podcast on our best behavior on TikTok on Instagram. We have a Facebook page, so however you search on our best behavior, you'll stumble across us.
Speaker 2:Perfect, perfect, yeah. So we'll have that all in the show notes. You guys will be able to easily click and do all that stuff. But yeah, I want to kind of jump in right to that of kind of the background behind the podcast and the reason behind it. So the podcast is with you and your son and it's fantastic and it's hilarious. I was dying laughing. I think the one I listened to on the plane ride home was the menstrual cycles, I think, and your son was just he was not interested, he was just like I don't really want to talk about this, but it was hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I force him into life, like I feel like he's going to eventually figure things out, and sometimes in school settings is where we unfortunately learn those things. And so I just am a very open, have a very open parent style and I just, if something comes up like we're talking about it as a family, so you know, and I want him. He, he's a, he's a boy. So does he understand how the female body works? No, does he understand, like why maybe girls are moody in high school? No, so I'm just there to kind of help him understand, like, hey, we're all going through our own things and it's not what you're going through. You know, girls versus boys and puberty. There's a lot going on on both ends and nobody knows what's going on with the other one.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So our podcast was born because in the pandemic of COVID we watched a lot of survival TV shows. In that time, for some reason, there was alone was on, like the last Alaskan was on, and we were watching those shows and he's like mom. I think it would be awesome if we could just get dropped off in the woods somewhere and see how long we could survive. And at that time I'm like, well, I'm going back to work now and I can't really take off like an undetermined amount of time until we survive, which you know probably would only survive not that long, but I mean trying to be optimistic, like maybe it could be, yeah, maybe it could be months.
Speaker 1:So anyway, I'm like that's not in the cards. Of course, he really wanted to be a YouTuber, so this was our compromise coming. I'm like you know I could, we could do a podcast, you could start there. And he's like, sure, ok. So I did research for a long time because I am not techie, I do not work in IT, I work in healthcare and I call the IT person every time the computer doesn't work. That's me Restart your computer. So this was. I'm pretty proud of what we have accomplished because I've done it all on my own. So and you know, he has helped me along the way too, but I mean, I drive the ship, let's be real.
Speaker 2:You're the star, he's the sidekick. We, we, we understand how this works out.
Speaker 1:I try to give him equal credit, but you know he shows up at the end of the day he shows up.
Speaker 2:That's all you can really ask for in a co-host, right? It's just hey, show up, put your headphones on and let's do the thing. Let's talk for a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's good for our relationship because it really gives us like this is the thing we do together. And this is a time where, you know, as a 14 year old boy, he is a man of not a lot of words. So how was school today? It was fine. What'd you learn today, I don't know. So this kind of gets him going. You know, and as a podcaster, you know like and actually in one of your recent episodes that I listened to, hit home with me the just do it. Like sometimes, when you do something that you're communicating with people or trying to connect with people, like you have to be on, and so sometimes, if you're not like in that on mode, it's really hard to get into it. And so, like you had said on your previous episode, like sometimes you just have to do it angry, do it sad, do it whatever, and it is going to make it better and it does always work out and you might capture moments in that mindset that you normally wouldn't. So I think it's good. It's good for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that Cause, this idea too, when you talked about, like the open parenting aspect of like really wanting to make sure that he knows what's going on in the world, right, and and knows, knows real things, like, hey, if you have a question about it, let's talk about it, let's figure out what this is about, and to use even the podcast as a platform, I can imagine that you have other other families that probably listen with their, their kids and that sort of thing to to kind of do the exact same thing, right, to have this same feeling of, hey, I'm, I'm connecting with my kid in this way and we're both listening, we're both learning about something. Um, do you have any experiences like people reaching out, uh, talking about that?
Speaker 1:So you know a lot of things I talk about, like menstrual cycles and um birth control. I work in women's health so that's what I do, so I have a lot of knowledge about that. So people have reached out to me my entire life. You know, one of my hopes for this podcast is that it would be an icebreaker for families to talk about more difficult topics.
Speaker 1:So I see young kids all the time that don't have parents they can talk to about things or wish they knew how to talk to their parents about these things. And then there's people who are like very open with their, with their kids, and I just I liked my parents did a lot of things wrong with me, but one thing that I loved that they did is they were open. Like if you heard a word at school that you didn't know what it meant, ask us, and we're not going to shame you, we want you to know. So they were really good at you know I did not live in a bubble at all, so I just want that for McCoy, I think knowledge is power.
Speaker 2:And oh, I did, he is here. I brought him Hi the co-host of the co-host.
Speaker 1:Yes, so, yeah, so that's kind of you know what we do and you know I, of course I wrote down so many things and then, like we said, as podcasters, we just start talking and talking and talking. But we've talked about, you know, as things come up in school, like we started this when he was in seventh grade, so junior high, and I thought this is when stuff really starts happening, starts happening, you know, elementary school is is pretty like low key, sheltered, I think, and then you go to junior high and you're meeting different kids and kids have changed so much over the summer at this point, and so we've talked about things like, um, what's it like to start middle school now, high school? Um, there were some situations that came up in school with bullying, food fights, kids vaping in the bathroom, school shooters was such a you know it is still like a big problem, and so we've talked about like, what would you do if that happened? We've talked about ADHD and anxiety and depression, so many things that people go through that it's getting better at being normalized or talked about, but it's, I think a lot of people, young kids especially struggle not knowing what avenue to take or what to do about it and they just think, oh, it's part of being a kid, or this is just who I am.
Speaker 2:Right, there's all those taboo topics that they can't really talk to their parents about and the parents really don't even know how to talk about it. To your to your point earlier, right, it's hopefully this kind of opens eyes but, like hey, just have these conversations. You may not know all the answers, you know, but Google it, you know or find a resource, and it's okay to not know the answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's it's. It's so often that we yeah, I've talked about this like a zillion times on the podcast but we, we limit ourselves because we just don't know the thing or we're scared about the thing or we're worried about the thing, and so then we don't even try to kind of break it down or see whatever's going on. And I think when we, when you get like that with kids I don't have kids, I'm not having kids. So it's always like I'm going to give everyone the parenting advice right now.
Speaker 1:Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about. You know what Good for you, because there's a lot of people who have too many kids. So thanks for helping the population.
Speaker 2:You know what? It's my sacrifice that I'm giving to everyone else that I don't have to deal with screaming children. Um, after we were in the in Minnesota for my wife was a nanny and housekeeper of five, so it was five under five, and we lived in their basement Um, so, like after that, I'm like man if I didn't need birth control before. Yes, we're good, we're good now.
Speaker 2:Um, sorry, mom and dad, when you're listening to this, uh, but yeah, I think it's when you kind of bring up those, those topics and kind of bring things to light, it helps people understand like, hey, we can have these conversations. We may not know all of the answers, but we can, we can look at it together and figure this out. You know, it's that part of the relationship thing has been interesting to me. How have you seen kind of your, your relationship with him kind of evolve through the podcast as he's getting older, right Cause usually what happens is teenagers and then he gets in high school and he's like I want nothing to do with mom, but obviously you guys are recording episodes, You're talking about things. How does that? How did that relationship kind of like continue to evolve?
Speaker 1:So I am very lucky because he is he has never gotten to that. I don't want anything to do with my mom point yet he's good at you know, understanding, having his own independence, but still he's super respectful of me and my feelings. I'm very lucky. I know that could change at any minute. So and I I'd like to think that I am also a very approachable for his friends. So his friends like to come over. I even have an older son who was a senior in high school and him and his buddy were just. They came over this last Saturday night, hung out with us. We played video games.
Speaker 1:So it's it's very rewarding to feel like you can be that person in their life that's an adult and knows the boundaries, but they still really trust you, and so I think you know our relationship. I don't know if it's really evolved, but it's continued to be great. It's continued to be like we can talk about anything, and there are some times where I have to say you don't have to look at me, you don't have to respond. I know this is going to be weird for you, but I need to say this. And then it is awkward and I can tell he doesn't know. They don't know what to do or say, and so then I just start talking about something else completely different to help them move on, right. But yeah, I mean, so I think it's it's been helpful in just maintaining our bond and continuing to talk about hard things that might be happening at school. Yeah, and most of the time it's pretty uneventful at school for him, so it's hard, that's yeah, that that was kind of my next thinking point along.
Speaker 2:That is kind of pulling that information out right Of like when you're having these conversations to keep the interaction where obviously certain topics are going to be more, um more involved in conversation where others are not. How, how does the the prep go before the episode? Cause I always get you know, like you've seen my note process, it's very bare and it's very. It's not a lot, but when you're kind of like playing this game where you're pulling from people, sometimes you need a little bit more. So how does that look of like? Hey, today we're going to talk about whatever, or is it? He finds out when you guys start recording.
Speaker 1:So I make notes throughout the week of anything that I think like oh, this would be good for the podcast. And then I also ask him every day you know, when we're having our daily like how was school today? What did you do? What did you do in this class, this class, this class? Who did you sit by? Did you meet anyone new today? Did anything happen? You know, and most of the time it's like no, but every once in a while he'll come home and say I have something for the podcast, write this down, and so so it is exciting that he does think about it sometimes. Um, so we've been trying to do like he has to have one story or one topic for the podcast every time we do it, and then he always has to have a would you rather, because we just started out with would you rather was super hot at the time, and so now I just say, like you have to bring one to the table every week yeah, love it, because I think I was the one I listened to on the plane he was.
Speaker 2:He was like back and forth and things like would rather, and he kept flipping between. I think it was maybe like mashed potatoes and baked potato or something, something of that nature, and he kept going back and forth and I was like this is just hilarious to me, cause I've had those conversations with, like when I used to lead youth groups for middle school and high school kids, where you're like having conversations and you're like focus, focus focus, focus.
Speaker 1:We're here, let's's, let's get this thing done. So it's just kind of funny to me. He does have add, so he is all over the place and so that's kind of, I think, fun to not fun, but interesting to really capture that. And you know, see how it is. And but I catch myself. I do the same thing. I'll be like on a rant and then I'm on another rant and I'm like, oh, we have to get back to where we were.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure you know about that that was my episode that just came out today actually for everyone listening last week. Uh, it was the same thing. I was like I started one track and then I just started like I had no notes. It was I was sitting on the couch back there with the mic, holding the microphone going, let's see what happens, and yeah, 25 minutes of me just going all over the place.
Speaker 2:But uh it was fun. But yeah, I think it's the idea of kind of having the conversation and bringing up those topics I think can be beneficial across the board with people because again, those those taboo topics that people feel like they don't have the answers to, and that sort of thing how do you handle maybe there's a topic that you aren't familiar with, so obviously a lot of the women's health stuff and that sort of stuff. Obviously that's your wheelhouse, you know that. Be just curious about. I'm always interested in how people, how people go about learning those things or at least trying to gather information, cause sometimes it can be on a podcast.
Speaker 1:You don't want to sound like the asshole that like I know everything and like what I say is the gospel right, but you also want to come semi-informed yeah, you want to be relatable and you know there's sometimes I listen back to a podcast that I did and I'll be like, oh, I totally said that wrong, that's not right. But you know you get like going and you're excited, so yeah, but I I've definitely done research on certain topics. We did like a um. One time we did a. You know I don't think he thought this was nearly as cool as I did like an astrology birth chart, and so I did. I had to do a lot of research on that because I didn't know. But I thought like this is cool and when I read his and I read mine, I'm like this is us, this is for real, let's tell people about it. He was just like oh, oh, mom, I don't know about that, but sure, yeah, yeah. And there's ones where he's totally clueless about it, but hopefully, you know, he retains some of the stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's someday when I'm not here anymore, you know he'll always have this, this, to listen back to us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's super cool, like to that point of having kind of a memory that that outlives us, right.
Speaker 2:It's it's why most creative people do the creative things we do, and and you see that throughout history, right, people end up being famous long after they're gone because people finally appreciated whatever the thing they were doing. And I think, as creatives, that's what we always want to do is put something out there that people will kind of resonate through time of like, hey, it might, it might feel a little different based off of the time of life or who, who's listening to it when they listen to it. And I think that's that's super cool, just from a family aspect, to be able to have those things, to kind of look back. It's just like you know, watching old like VHS tapes uh, kids that are listening VHS tapes. We had these big tapes that we had to. Blockbuster used to charge us when we didn't rewind them before we turned them back in and, okay, blockbuster, no, um, yeah, just keep going one hour photo like oh my gosh, I can't wait to see what our photos look like.
Speaker 1:And they're all blurry.
Speaker 2:Somebody blinked like, oh now, I only had 32 pictures, 36 pictures to take it. It's the ridiculous. Um yeah, I think one of the things that's interesting about that kind of format with your podcast is I think you can run into some possibly challenges in this spring. Obviously, you're saying the relationships good is kind of just continue to grow, but there has to be some like challenging moments where you're just like, kid, I'm going to wring your neck in this situation, or just some disconnects there I'd love to, I'd love to hear war stories.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well. So like you I think, like I don't do a lot of editing, so sometimes when he'll swear or say something that I think is like you shouldn't say that, especially on the podcast, like I'll be, like you know, then it is a little bit of a like you see, that little parent child relationship come out where I'm like they can't do that. So it does happen on this podcast and I just, like you, know what we are, a real family and that does happen. So here it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love, I love the authenticity of it happen.
Speaker 1:So here it is. Yeah, I love, I love the authenticity of it and you know, you used to live in Minnesota and that's where we live. And so Dave Ryan from KWB has helped us a ton and he has helped plug us and he has kind of given me some insight on you know, what's good and and that was one of his things is, when we started this podcast he said I'm really nervous because a lot of kids are going to be into that and then they fall off. Or if he goes to high school now this isn't important to him. He has other things going on, but we haven't had that happen yet. So we'll see how it goes. And I've also tried to evolve with having guests on more recently, just to kind of give him a break and not make it have to be his full-time thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause that is a. That is tough to kind of make it the two of you in every week. It has to be something else. And we're kind of going through this.
Speaker 2:My old podcast, me and my buddy, that was our, our shtick is for, I think, think we only, we only went like 65 episodes, but it was 65 straight weeks of every single week we would show up in my house or I'd show up at his house and we'd process through the thing and we a couple times we had guests, but more often not, we didn't. And that when we realized how much of a toll that took of just like hey, we gotta, we gotta do this every time we're playing the same jokes, like we're playing rerunsuns, how do we, how do we make this thing better? So when I started this podcast I was like, hey, I'm going to do more guests. But then you know, during COVID so easy to find guests because everyone was doing this, everyone was doing this thing remote and made it a lot easier.
Speaker 2:But in the last year or so it's been, it's been tough to find some some interesting people in different stories that people are willing to share for a non-promotion standpoint. I'm sure you get these emails too. But I got all these emails of like authors or people that are like their, their promoters and stuff like that want to be on the show and I'm like that's fine, but I'm not. I'm not here to plug your new book Like if I don't think you're a cool person. I'm just not going to talk to you Like that's just that's just how it works.
Speaker 2:I'm not here to to. I'm not making money off of this, so don't expect you to make more money off of this.
Speaker 1:But um so for us, I think it's like what's interesting to us. You know, like if I think somebody is great, then I want them on my podcast. You know, or I know somebody has been through something that would be a good story or a good topic, I want you on my podcast. So, yeah, people who reach out to me, unless they really have, like if I know something, if I know them, I'm just not cool with the stranger danger aspect of it. You know, especially if they're coming to my house. You're really good about this technology stuff. I don't ever do anything like that, but yeah, so you know, it kind of limits you a little bit.
Speaker 2:But I guess that does. That does help me in a regard because I have all of the equipment and I can do all of the things that like the virtual, the interviews, are a lot easier for me to do this way. I haven't had. I haven't had like an in person one since probably like episode five or six of my podcast, but that was because I was right before COVID happened.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, this, this, the idea of, hey, I want you on my show because I find you interesting and I just want to talk with people. That's half the things. And I, you know, I like slide in people's DMS all the time and just like, hey, awkward me here, just want to see if you want to talk with me. And you know, luckily I have a pretty enough face that people at least click the button and look at the message and be like, oh, he's not a stalker. That's fine, um, but it's it's not always the easiest, and especially with topics and stuff too right, it's with the show like mine of you know, purpose and intentionality and this kind of thing.
Speaker 2:You can only beat a dead horse so many times. Right, like, how am I going to refresh this in a way that brings? I don't want to just do it to do it. So if I'm going to be talking about something, I want it to be something that's going to kind of resonate with people and honestly I've said this before it's like it's really my therapy as well. It gives me a reason to kind of talk through ideas and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1:I get that I'm the same way and I always feel like I'm such an open book, and so if people are like I want to ask you something, but you don't have to answer if you don't want to, I'm like, oh, lay it on me.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you anything anything to hide.
Speaker 1:Learn from all my mistakes.
Speaker 2:All right, kelly, since you said that we're going to go to Google. No, I'm just kidding. 10 questions, never to ask anybody. No, yeah, no, no, no, it's fine. Yeah, I think it's. I don't know. I think it's super cool, kind of what you're doing with your family and kind of how that that interaction happens. How does your, how does your older son kind of feel about it? Is he just like, yeah, it's not my thing, anyways, I don't want to be there? Or has he been on the show or no-transcript athletic and plays basketball.
Speaker 1:And my other son, mccoy, is not athletic. He is way more like creative mind artsy, so I was hoping this would kind of help bring him into that. Versus my other son, he has no problems with anything, he's just getting along just fine.
Speaker 2:Grow in a way because I'm I'm ridiculously introverted and between kind of doing things at my church and my podcast, I've been able to like just learn better skills of how to talk to people. You know, I have to, I have to reach out to people and we have to kind of do that little rigmarole to figure out you know, scheduling, yada, yada, yada, and then we have to have a conversation for 45 minutes and it's helped me understand like, hey, this is how you should be communicating with people, this is how you kind of get out of your shell and and learn new things where, honestly, I'd like most times I'd rather just be sitting on the couch right there just playing video games, but I'm like no, no, no, you gotta, you gotta break out of your shell, cause this is how you are actually going to grow and I'm sure you've probably seen that in McCoy as well of himself kind of growing through that, through that journey of going through this process with the podcast.
Speaker 1:My favorite thing is like how much his voice has changed, because he started when he was like I don't know, 12 and 11. Well, anyway, he's definitely went through puberty since we started and now he has a deep voice. So it's kind of funny to look back and be like, oh my gosh, you sounded like such a little kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now he's just got this like radio voice. You're like you've got it, you've made it.
Speaker 1:A lot of people are like his voice changed. I'm like it did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now you have actual proof of it. There's. There's documented proof on the internet of like no, we can go back a year and we can see it's different. Now that's funny.
Speaker 1:And so that's. Another thing is like I always wait for him to be like mom. I don't want to talk about that on the podcast. I don't want to be on the podcast because I feel like when I think I'm older than you, but when I was a kid, kids were really mean and I think now kids aren't really accepting of others' differences and so I think that's come a really long way and that's really impressive, because he's like I'm not embarrassed, I don't care, I'm like okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause that would be a. I could see that. Yeah, growing up it was one of those things you always had to. You always worried about how things would be perceived, and that's that's probably a more generational thing of how we wanted to make sure we were living up to the expectations of those that were kind of interacting with us and we wanted to make sure that we didn't put anything out there that would embarrass us or do those kinds of things. Luckily for me, people made fun of me for anything anyway. So I kind of it, and it's hard to make fun of somebody that like leans into it, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, You're just like oh, wait a second, it's not hurting them, I'm like, no, it doesn't bother me, so I'll make fun of myself too. You know it's also self-deprecating, not healthy at all, probably a cause of a lot of other issues, but it helps from the getting made fun of.
Speaker 1:So you know, I just wanted to talk about how we actually like quote unquote met.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I think this is a cute story. So, you know, my husband was asking me like what state does this guy live in? And I'm like I think he lives in Ohio now, but maybe it's New York, I don't even know. But you did live in Minnesota and I found you because I was following, like Minnesota podcast, minnesota podcasters, like I want to meet these people because people would say to me like, oh, you have a podcast, everybody has a podcast. And I'm like I don't know anyone personally who has a podcast. I'm like I'm going to meet these people. What are they talking about, you know? And so then that's how I met with you. And you are a runner. I am not a runner. I've tried to be a runner and every time I do I just get injured. I've had so much sciatica and foot problems and I'm like I give up on the running, but I'm inspired that you do but I'm inspired that you do.
Speaker 2:I'm a little bit of crazy, but yeah, it was. It was interesting because we had talked about like, hey, we were, we're both in Minnesota, maybe we do something in person, we can figure this whole thing out. And then that's when my whole job situation, everything changed. So then we ended up having to move and I was like, well, that kind of stinks, because that would have been fun. And then, literally for the last six months I've been trying to figure out a date on my end. Nothing on your schedule. It was just like, hey, when does this work? Like when can I actually fit this thing in? You know, being in a one bedroom apartment now I have to wait for the missus to be gone so I can actually record, but don't tell anyone. It's the middle of the day and I should be working right now.
Speaker 1:Um, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shit, I should have edited that out, no, um, but I think that that's where. I think that's where this like relationship and this podcast and I'm sure you're doing this as well, as you have guests come on it's it's kind of helping us grow and meet other people of different backgrounds, cultures, ideas and just really give us an opportunity to kind of talk to other people. And I think that's why podcasting is so cool, cause I always joke when people are like, oh, you have a podcast. I'm like I'm a white dude in his mid thirties. Of course I have a podcast. That's like a thing that I'm required to do. I think, uh, I also have, you know, nike's or you know whatever, I wear joggers all the time you know, whatever.
Speaker 2:Whatever the case may be, silly millennials, um, but we were able to kind of meet people and have conversations with people that we normally wouldn't be. You know, to your same point. I a lot of people have podcasts, but I don't know many people personally that do other than the guests I've had on my show and I think you can podcasting. Since the pandemic really turned into this, a lot of comedians are doing a lot of talk show. Hosts kind of went this route and because of it it's kind of elevated it to a status where it's like now the only people that listen to podcast the only good podcast listen to are famous people, right, and I think I hate that.
Speaker 2:It's the worst, I mean we're famous in our own right, yeah, but, but I think it's.
Speaker 2:it's interesting because we can still have conversations with. We'll call it the common man, common woman, right Of we just like I want to hear your story. Everyone has a story and I just want to hear your story, like, tell me about you because your story matters just as much as you know, like Joe Rogan or Dax Shepard or any of these, like huge podcasters and it's like, yeah, we're doing this because we actually are looking to build the community. We're looking to inspire people with the things that we have to say or inform people on specific topics and then meet people along the way. I'm right there with you. I search hashtags like no other. Every time I do a marathon, I'm like what was the hashtag of this race? Let me click it. I'm going to click, go through people's instagrams and be like hey, they got a really cool story. Let me reach out. You know, 50% of the time people ignore me, but the other 50% I get to have good conversations and I just feel like there's so many people who are willing to talk about their story.
Speaker 1:That was a difficult time, because time does help you talk about it. I just interviewed this this friend of mine, and she had had a stillbirth baby at like 27 weeks. Nobody knows what to say to that. Nobody knows what, what's the right thing to do, what's the wrong thing to do, what you want, what you don't want, and so, like being able to talk about that um, I don't even know the right word. It's not amazing, but it's. It's an honor for that person to tell you their story. But I also think it's like so nice to be able to listen to something like that and know what to do if that happens to somebody that you know.
Speaker 1:You know, because it's such a terrible thing and everyone's like uh, we don't know what to, we don't know what to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't know how to react in that situation. You know we've.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've had a guest like that. I had a lady I'd met on a race in I think it was West Virginia, that's where we were at and it was like her first I don't know if she ran the full or the half, whatever the case might be, but I reached out to her and just, very high functioning, was going to college, like doing all these things. I'm like I want to hear this because my godmother, her son, is autistic and and it's high function as well.
Speaker 2:It interests me just how families kind of interact in that in that manner, didn't realize that she was a victim of domestic violence as well, and that's where the topic turned. And it's like, literally, it was one of those episodes where I just basically shut up for almost the entire thing. I'm like you tell your story and you talk and I'm just going to listen and learn of how, the things to look out for the, how to interact and how to do these things, because, yeah, I don't, I don't know this and I don't have the answers, and I think we have to, as as hosts and really as people, we should be doing this, as we just need to be able to have empathy and just shut her mouths and listen to people and just say, hey, I hear you. I don't know what you went through. I will probably never have that experience, but I can feel where you're at right now and how, and and learn how to help from that situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of people who just want to be heard, and I think it's also like therapeutic for them to get their story out when it's something that personal.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I don't know what else to say to that. But yeah, so it is good. And every, like you said, everyone does have a story. Oh, this is what I do. Whenever people are like, oh my gosh, I have to tell you what happened. I'm like do you want to tell it on the podcast? It's like my new line. Do you want to come to great story? Want to put it on the podcast?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do that with guests A lot of times when, like, if, if someone I don't been following or that sort of thing, I'm like, don't tell me anything about you now I want to hear it all on the air, like I want to, I want to feel, I want to be in the moment and have this reaction. Sometimes it hasn't worked out well. I'm like they bring it and I was just like, well, that was a dud, no one's going to listen to this episode. Uh, but sometimes, you know, I went on Reddit I was probably two years ago now and literally just was like hey, who wants to be on a podcast, who has a story? And I got a bunch of people and they all do on Reddit, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:They, they have. They have some stories. I had to filter through some of them, but yeah, it was one of those. Like the people I had on, I was just like this is it's interesting, but again, it's one of those where I don't mind putting myself out there and having a platform to be able to have someone to share their story that maybe they don't think that it's something that they'd be able to share otherwise. Like you said, it could be therapeutic for them to just to have the conversation. Yeah, I don't know, I like just being able to have the platform to have that conversation with people, but I don't have anything else really to chat about. Do you have anything else on your mind? What's going on?
Speaker 1:Today I have the day off. It's really exciting. Uh, I had a meeting at my son's school this morning. Glad that's over. I had to go to the dentist. Glad that's over. I have this meeting with you. That I was like actually nervous about, cause this is the first time I've ever been a guest on a podcast. This is the first time I've ever been a guest on a podcast, so it's a little bit different being in the other seat.
Speaker 2:It is, it sucks, it's the worst.
Speaker 1:And then I'm on another podcast tonight. So I collect Pyrex and so I'm doing a podcast with a girl who does a podcast about Pyrex. So I'm going to talk about all of my old lady collection with her.
Speaker 2:That is fantastic. That's why podcast is so great, Cause there's so many just like random things that you're just like someone has a podcast about that. You're like, yeah, and it's awesome and I love every second of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it's cool. It is cool to hear what other people want to listen to too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's one of those it's one of those things where you know, again, podcasting can be this a lot of people think of just like interviews and kind of stories and comedians, because that's kind of taken over with a lot of it. But it is another just like good, useful piece of information where you know there's a lot of podcasts that are like five, 10 minutes in their daily or weekly, that are just like hey, here's just some inspiration for your day, or here's just a cool story, or here's just something I'm sharing. And and I always try to tell people, if anyone ever shows interest in like starting a podcast or do whatever I go, let me know, I'll help you. I'll tell you all the things you need to do. Like I literally have an Amazon wishlist that I send people of, like, hey, you want a basic podcast set up? Here's your wishlist to just buy these things and I will show you how to use them. Or, if you don't have money, we can use your iPhone and we can make it work and it'll be perfectly fine as well.
Speaker 2:I think trying to reduce those barriers for people, like if you have a story to tell, I want to help you in any way that I can to do that and that's why I like having guests on that that have other things, like like you and your show. It's like, yeah, I'm going to promote the hell out of your show, we're going to post a ton of videos about this, we're going to repost things, because that's that, to me, is how I can give back in a way, with the platform. I have all of this equipment, because I've had clients that have, you know, been very generous. Uh, so I've been able to buy all these nice things, and because I can buy these nice things, I want to kind of give it back in some way or another, cause this life isn't about me, it's what, how I can kind of serve and help others.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Well, I love what you're doing. I list I've listened to every single episode of yours. I can tell you that Cause I was like, oh, I should listen to any episodes I haven't heard and I was like, oh, I've listened to all them.
Speaker 2:I love that, even the shitty ones. There's lots of shitty ones. There's a lot where you're just like, ah, he's just ranting for no reason.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that that's you, but I've definitely had that as well, you know. So I understand how you feel. But yeah, Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 1:I was just going to say so. It's been a blessing getting to know you. Your voice is so calming. I love listening to it. You are motivating. I think that you are being successful with what you're trying to accomplish with your podcast, and I think it's lovely.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. The check's in the mail, so you'll get that. Thank you for that feedback. But yeah, thanks again for just taking the time today and kind of chatting. I know we didn't really, we were all over the place kind of talking a little bit about your story, but I think it's great just to hear what other people are doing and the stuff you're doing. Your podcast is hilarious. I have another flight tomorrow, uh, back to Ohio, and I have a couple episodes already queued up. So, um, I'm excited to to be laughing on the plane and people looking at me like what the hell is this dude's problem? I'm like man, you guys gotta check out this podcast.
Speaker 2:I'll just airdrop it to everybody on the plane, like who is this guy sending me things? That's a fun trick. I did that at a Vikings game once.
Speaker 1:I've never thought of that. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Oh, I did it at a Vikings game for my hangry stuff that I had, where it literally in between quarters. I would just pull up like a hangry QR code and like our website and I would just hit air, uh, airdrop, and whoever came up, I was just like click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click and just like, sent every random pick people pictures. Some people declined it, but some people accepted it. I was like well, first off, that's not secure. You really shouldn't accept things from strangers.
Speaker 1:But yes For a good cause.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But, yeah, Thanks again for kind of taking the time today. Yeah, I hope people are inspired by this of like hey, I want to have these conversations with my, my kids, my family, my spouse, anyone you know. Talk about these taboo things, make it happen. And check out your podcast Do you guys release weekly.
Speaker 1:Mostly yeah, weekly ish. You know, life happens sometimes so we don't try to. We don't push anything out if we're not ready to push it out. We want to be in the good mind frame and make sure we do have content to talk about. So yeah, check out Honor Best Behavior. You can find it wherever you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 2:Perfect. Love it To everyone else. Reach out to me on social media everywhere at floresrun Subscribe, leave a review for the podcast. That's how people like Kelly get to find it and be like, hey, this isn't too bad, but yeah, it's great. Thanks so much for joining me today. Remember to keep running with purpose, one step at a time. See you guys next week. Thank you.
