Ever dreamt of completing a marathon in each of the 50 states? Well, meet our guest for this episode, Jonathan Flores - a dedicated marathoner and podcaster who has turned that dream into a reality. Join us, your hosts Mac and Kelli, as we delve into the fascinating world of long-distance running, and the unique challenges and rewards it brings. From tales of snowstorms cancelling races to the thrill of overtaking competitors, Jonathan's stories are sure to inspire you.
It's not just about running, though. We also venture into the world of podcasting, reflecting on the fears, challenges, and triumphs we've faced on our journey. We've been profoundly moved by the personal stories and experiences our guests have shared, and we hope these conversations have touched you as well. We also chat about the importance of authenticity in our discussions, and the power of asking the hard questions that many shy away from.
We wrap up by sharing personal endeavors, including the 'hangry' movement - an initiative that seeks to redefine 'hangry' for those living with hunger. We delve into the journey of creating the Hangry nonprofit organization, and the amazing support received through the Hangry Race Series. And of course, we touch on our shared tattoo journey, and a quest to complete 50 states in running races. We can't wait for you to join us on this rollercoaster of a conversation that promises laughs, inspiration, and much more.
Ever dreamt of completing a marathon in each of the 50 states? Well, meet our guest for this episode, Jonathan Flores - a dedicated marathoner and podcaster who has turned that dream into a reality. Join us, your hosts Mac and Kelli, as we delve into the fascinating world of long-distance running, and the unique challenges and rewards it brings. From tales of snowstorms cancelling races to the thrill of overtaking competitors, Jonathan's stories are sure to inspire you.
It's not just about running, though. We also venture into the world of podcasting, reflecting on the fears, challenges, and triumphs we've faced on our journey. We've been profoundly moved by the personal stories and experiences our guests have shared, and we hope these conversations have touched you as well. We also chat about the importance of authenticity in our discussions, and the power of asking the hard questions that many shy away from.
We wrap up by sharing personal endeavors, including the 'hangry' movement - an initiative that seeks to redefine 'hangry' for those living with hunger. We delve into the journey of creating the Hangry nonprofit organization, and the amazing support received through the Hangry Race Series. And of course, we touch on our shared tattoo journey, and a quest to complete 50 states in running races. We can't wait for you to join us on this rollercoaster of a conversation that promises laughs, inspiration, and much more.
Hey guys, welcome back to Honor and Best Behavior. I'm Mack and, oh my God, and you're here with I. Tried again. Okay, it failed.
Speaker 2:So who are you here with?
Speaker 1:Kelly, and what's your name, mackie? Okay, it's McCoy.
Speaker 2:A funny story. I was listening back to some old podcast episodes when your voice sounded like before it started to change into a man. You just sounded like a little kid. It was so cute.
Speaker 1:Really I was like hey guys, hey guys, I don't know, we don't talk about that one. All right, that was a different story.
Speaker 2:Well, if you want to experience that, you can go back and listen to future episodes of McCoy's voice before it changed.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know, I didn't know. It sounded that good, then, please know.
Speaker 2:You definitely sound cuter now, I think.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, yep, okay, good, good, good, good, good.
Speaker 2:What's up? What do you got going on?
Speaker 1:What's new? I just got back from the orthodontist and I had to do a lot of things for my teeth. It was. It was a lot. We were there for like an hour. I had to. I got two X-rays X-rays for my teeth and then they had to put this like scanning thing that would. It would make. It would make like a 3D model of my teeth. I kind of like get a dildo in your mouth. Why?
Speaker 2:That's just what I was thinking when I was watching and I was like oh, mac.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, why? Why, you didn't know. All right, so yeah, I'd have that thing. And then, and then there was like these like things that they had to put in my mouth so they could get like an actual like model of my teeth. So they were like it was like contain this thing that they put under my teeth and they filled it with like plaster or whatever and they had to put it in my teeth so it could model my teeth. And it was so nasty I I had to do it twice because the first one failed, it sucked. I hated it. I did not want to do that again.
Speaker 2:So did you get braces today?
Speaker 1:Negative no. Do you know when you're going to get braces? No, probably in like I don't know next year sometime, maybe it is December.
Speaker 2:So next year is next month is next year, bro, but you're not going to get them for a couple of months because we don't even go back till February and it's December.
Speaker 1:No, like next year is in, like next, like school year.
Speaker 2:No, really, it's for sure going to be the school year bro.
Speaker 1:I mean. So then, like when after February, march?
Speaker 2:So, we go back in February and they have to kind of reevaluate your teeth situation. They're going to look at all the stuff that they did today. Look at all the pictures they took. Look at the impressions that they took. I have this in the falls. I'm sorry. What else did you? X-rays? They did like those bite wings. She took a bunch of pictures. We go back in February, they talk about the plan and then we make the appointment for the braces, if all that goes well. Yeah, but they also said that you need to have two permanent teeth pulled too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know why. Why don't I have that Something?
Speaker 2:about your bite. So they said they can either do jaw surgery and like pretty much like I think, break your jaw and pull it back, or they can just like take these two permanent teeth out to make more room for your teeth and make your bite smaller, because you have a little bit of a overbite with those top teeth.
Speaker 1:Oh here, okay, let's not dab, but All right. So what's happening with you?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm so glad you asked, because you know what I just hate talking about myself. Your mom is down 31 pounds.
Speaker 1:I'm down Christmas is literally in a week from now, because it's Monday.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh, oh oh.
Speaker 1:Monday, december 18th Do the math.
Speaker 2:Well, this is not going to release until Well it's probably going to be released tomorrow After. Christmas Really. So I think this one is going to release one day after Christmas, so we'll be having a great Christmas, so let's go.
Speaker 1:Merry Christmas, late Merry Christmas to you. Hope you got some goodies. What goodies are you hoping for? I don't know everything I asked for.
Speaker 2:You already had one Christmas, so you can talk about that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I got a new Xbox controller a golden shadow color and I got another headset that I still have to set up I haven't set it up yet and I also got a bunch of freeze-dried skittles. I got like three blankets and then all I got really.
Speaker 2:Sounds like you're going to be warm this winter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I am.
Speaker 2:Minnesota. If you live here, you know, and if you don't live here, you don't know. But it is like California. In Minnesota right now we have no snow. It's been 50 degrees out and sunny, and let me tell you. A lot of people are complaining, but I am really happy, and Mokwai Yui said that today it was so cold at the bus stop and I had to remind you that it's December and it's usually about negative 20 about now.
Speaker 1:I want them to be still in the house so I can go snowmobiling.
Speaker 2:I'm not a fan of any winter activities. I just like to hang out in the house. So the fact that there's been sunshine and I have been outside with the dogs like it, has been very enjoyable for me. So I know you're all booing me right now. Everyone loves the snow, everyone loves the ski and snowboard and snowmobile, but not me, wa-wa.
Speaker 1:All right, Back to you. You don't have anything else to tell. I said back to you I don't know All right.
Speaker 2:So the only other thing I was going to tell you about Mokwai because I haven't seen in a couple of days is I did some really great interviews this weekend and so I have some great stuff that is going to be coming to you. I talked to Kit and she had a baby early and we talked all about the difficulties of her pregnancy and delivery. And now and then I talked to Mary from the MCRS, which is the Minnesota Rabbit Companion, mc Minnesota Companion Rabbit Society. I always get those two letters mixed up, and so we talked all about bunnies, and I love bunnies. I have two bunnies and people are always surprised to hear my bunny stories, so we talked all about the bunnies. So that will be coming your way and, super excited, I have a interview scheduled with Finnegan from Hot Rod Magazine. He's also on a roadkill and he does his own show called Finnegan's Crash, so that's coming up too, so excited.
Speaker 1:Wow, that is a W. That is a W, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2:So, anyway, today I have an episode for you and it is of my friend, a fellow podcaster. I used to live in Minnesota and now has moved, and his name is Jonathan Flores, so I'm going to let you listen to that. Bye, bye.
Speaker 2:Without further ado, you're listening to another episode of On Our Best Behavior and today I'm excited to introduce my guest. I consider him a dear friend of mine. He has helped me grow through my podcasting journey. He is a marathon runner and recently completed all 50 states. He is also the co-founder, executive director of Hangry and podcast host of Run With Purpose. I give you Jonathan Flores.
Speaker 3:Thanks. Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited. That sounded like very professional, like I do a lot of really cool things, but I don't think I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do, I know all those cool things that you do and I mean, you know, so see, I can. Sometimes you forget all the things that you're involved in and then somebody just brings it out and you're like, that's me, I do all that that doesn't sound like I do all of those things, but those are very, very kind words and I'm glad that.
Speaker 3:I'm glad that our friendship hasn't been useless for you. So that's worked out for a while.
Speaker 2:And, like I told you earlier, you're cute too, so that helps.
Speaker 3:There it goes. It's good for the video. If you guys aren't watching the video, you need to do that. It helps.
Speaker 2:It's on you, it will be on YouTube. So now that I introduced you, you tell me about who you are. What do you do, what do you like, who do you love? I think those are all like good things that make up a person.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can try. You named all the things that I have done, I guess.
Speaker 2:You just said you didn't know all those.
Speaker 3:I forget about them, right? You don't think that it's funny? Because I actually and I'm going to be all over the place. I apologize, but I actually just finished writing my Vermont race report for my 50 states and it's been a month and a half since I've since I've ran that race, so trying to remember the things. You're like, oh wait, I did, I did do that thing too, but yeah, to backtrack. So all the nice things that were said, I don't know if they're actually true, but we'll go with them. Host the podcast. It's kind of one of my passions is really just talking to people and really this idea of living with purpose and intentionality. I'm all the mindset changes and kind of talking through things. I'm definitely a person that likes to learn new things about people or just anything really, so started a podcast just to have conversations with people, be like hey, what's your story? Tell me kind of what you're all about, and that's kind of how we met on Instagram.
Speaker 3:Just like hey, this is super cool. Minnesota, minnesota and podcast, even though it was there for a brief minute. But yeah, I'm a runner, just finished a journey running the marathon in longer than all 50 states, which is still mind blowing to even think about. From the last nine years, I live in Chicago now, where my wife and I are all over the place, but right now we're in Chicago. We'll see how long we're here for and see what God has next for us, I guess. But the who do you love? That's easy. I have to call it my wife. I didn't do that and she listened to this. She'd be like what the hell are you doing? I'm like oh, my lovely wife of 12 years just this past October which is just absolutely crazy, we've been together for 17 years told someone that today and I was just like Holy crap, I'm getting old. This is this is.
Speaker 2:This is to the point yet where it's more, more you've been together more than you have not been together like of your life Not quite.
Speaker 1:I'm 36.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, so well, yeah, close to it, yeah, we're getting there. Yeah, thanks for reminding me again old but no it's been all of my runny buddies. That's what I say. I'm like I might be getting older, but you guys are really old. Don't know how you do this, but no, I think kind of my my love and what drives a lot of the things I do is just creativity and curiosity. Really, it's just trying to figure out how things work and how people work and really just trying to learn all that I can.
Speaker 2:When did you develop your love for running and when did you decide to run all 50 states?
Speaker 3:This is a weird one because I don't think you can ask most runners and we don't love running. I don't think. We obviously have to love it a little bit because we're stupid and we don't stop doing it Right, Like there has to be some sort of like something wrong with us. Really Something's not clicking upstairs. But I lived in South Florida so I went to school at Florida Atlantic University go owls. No one knew about the owls until they were in the tournament last year. But now everyone's kind of familiar with who Florida Atlantic is. If you watch college basketball, I never went to a single game of theirs. I just I just get to cheer them on because that's my alma mater. But we? I moved to Ohio in December and was instantly like what is this called nonsense. I need something else to do. I'm getting cabin fever of just like staying inside with this court. I need something to do.
Speaker 3:And growing up I played sports. I played baseball. So I absolutely hated running. Coach Like go run a mile. And I'm like there's no way. There's no way in hell. I'm running a whole mile. You're ridiculous, it's not happening.
Speaker 3:But I had this idea. I was like hey, what if I just trained for one of these five K things. You know there's five K supporting all different types of organizations and stuff like that. Maybe I could train for one of these and see how well it goes. And that's kind of exactly what I did. I started running. I remember my first, first three miles I ever ran, and it's not like a 12 minute pace, which not saying that's slow, but my progression I ended up kind of running at like a nine minute pace. So it was like kind of that growth of just like hey, I just ran three miles, Like that is nuts. And then, within a year of me running my first K or in my first marathon, I kind of just got hooked. I would just I felt good about it. Everything just like was clicking. You know, it's like this is great, Like all you need is shoes. The joke was, is I needed something cheaper than golf, because golf was very expensive in Ohio. Obviously, I've spent a lot more money on running than I have golf at this point.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, started running my first marathon in 2011 and then didn't run my second state until 2014. At that point in time it still was nothing. I did the Pittsburgh marathon my wife's from outside of Pittsburgh. So like, hey, we'll just head to Pennsylvania, Go run there. And then, after that, I ran with a buddy in Las Vegas and I was like, OK, wait a second. Like I'm hitting, I'm hitting new states here. Like what do we, what do we think about this? And then, after I ran the goofy challenge in Walt Disney in 2015, I was like maybe we should try to go for these 50 states. Now this is where, like, runners are idiots and I'll say it as one I ran four marathons and I said you know what sounds great? Forty six more of these things.
Speaker 2:Sounds terrible.
Speaker 3:Right, there's, there's not like there's no good decision that's coming, Like I don't know how you connect those dots and say you make good life choices, but yeah. So from there we were just like, hey, let's do 50 states. And then, yeah, it kind of just took off from there.
Speaker 2:Perspective. You're like I ran my 5K and then I ran a marathon. I ran a 5K and I was like I am never doing that again. And also sometimes when I'm driving in my car and it's like, for example, my commute to work, I think, is nine miles and I can't imagine running that three times for fun, or for I don't even for any reason. For any reason.
Speaker 3:For like just because and what. What really kind of helped solidify me was like the community I built around it, like I was meeting some people while I was running and then I got really involved in the trail running community where I lived in Delaware, ohio at the time Go team possum for anyone that would be listening and really form some really really close friendships and bonds through running. So it kind of helped just continue to inspire to go further and there was always someone that was doing something crazier right, like longest I've run is 100K, but I have multiple friends that have run 100 milers, 200 milers. I have a buddy that I met on his journey but he ran from Kenai, alaska to Key West Florida in 98 days. He's also the world record holder for running across the country, but he's he's an absolute monster. But there's always someone that does something bigger than you.
Speaker 3:And the cool thing about the running community at least the running community that I'm in, and there's different kinds of people that do this, but there was never a one up kind of thing of like I'm better than you because I ran further or can run faster there was always this like community that we were always together. We would go on long runs together and there'd be people that can run six minute miles and people that were running 15 minute miles, but at the end we're still like hanging out together and doing our thing and I think that sense of community really drew me into it and kind of kept me there and kept me going and kept me motivated to do this throughout the years. Like I said, I ran my first marathon in 2011, second state in 2014, and then just finished, a month or month and a half ago, the 50 states. So it's like, you know, a nine year journey of doing these states Like it's been. It's been nuts.
Speaker 2:I do agree with you with that. Like you said, the running community. It's not as competitive, as you know, most like traditional sports, so that would be rewarding, like everyone's, just encouraging everyone to like go farther, push harder. Do the next thing be inspired versus yeah, I'm better than you, or my stats are better than yours. Whatever it is, so that's cool.
Speaker 3:I've heard a lot of stories of people I would say they always say, like the, there's no difference between a six minute mile and a 12, a 10 minute mile. It's still a mile and that aspect kind of really stuck with me the entire journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good way to look at it, for sure. Um so I've heard a lot of crazy stories about people running marathons and things that have happened um, emergencies. I'm not going to tell you. I'm sure you can think of maybe what I'm thinking of, but what's the wildest thing you've witnessed while running a marathon? There's a story in particular that's like I hear multiple times and I'm like I would never put myself in that situation.
Speaker 3:Maybe you're talking about the poop and pants one. I've never pooped my pants. Yeah, that's where you're bringing it up now.
Speaker 2:There's been a few like risky businesses Like people just lose vowel control.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, it's definitely a uh. Your body just doesn't know how to react really when it comes comes to that amount of time. Um, I've had I haven't had anything like that. I've seen some people while running races that you're like, oh, they definitely pissed themselves, um, which is like, hey, sometimes you don't want to stop, I get it. Um, I've seen some scary things too. I remember there's been multiple times they've either been spectating or out of race and seeing people collapse, um, or see people down on the ground and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:And those are those are moments where you're just like you, you don't take it for granted of like, how, what, you're putting your body through right. You know a lot of people. I truly think anyone could go and you could run at least a half marathon. If you can run a mile, I believe you truly can run a half marathon. It's when you start getting to the marathon distance or longer, you know you're putting your body through a lot of things. You need to make sure you're trained and prepared for it and unfortunately, you know, our bodies are are very complicated. Things and and things happen. You know, and luckily, both of these instances that people event were okay, you know, found out later that everything was okay with those people, Thank God. But there's some scary moments where you're just like this isn't you know, this isn't good. I've had friends get hit by cars, um, while running. The guy that I was telling you about that ran from Alaska to QS. He was getting ready to crew somebody at a race and got hit by a car and now he's, uh, about a month and a half later he's just now able to start being to walk again, um, after being, you know, competitive, winning races and stuff like that. So, not to turn it onto a Debbie down our side, but I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of things we can see. That kind of give me the realization that the journey that I was able to do puts in perspective of how many things kind of had to fall into place right, having a wife that was super supported to say, hey, we're going to literally drive and fly across the country for you to run a race and then drive back. The amount of times we literally would leave on Thursday after work, we would drive all day Friday at race on Saturday, turn back around and start to drive home to work back on Monday. You know all these little things that could happen. Um, as I said that we did.
Speaker 3:We drove down to I've got a bunch of stories. We drove down to Jackson Mississippi and we're in Tennessee. It starts snowing and we're like all right, do we turn around? What does this look like? The race is like hey, we're looking good, it's going to be fine, maybe a little snow, but we should be okay, it's all right. So we finished the drive down to Jackson. We're checking in. The roads are pretty slick. There's a couple of like. It's basically like an ice freak. You know Jackson Mississippi, they'll not handle ice and snow. So I was like this is this could be just shut down the whole state.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, basically, and we're like all right, but they're like, hey, we should be good. I'm like I don't think so, but we're already here, let's figure it out. And they canceled the race at about 10 PM the night before the race. So we woke up in the morning and drove all the way back to Ohio and then a couple of years later I got to do the race. But yeah, it was like an ice rink and stuff like that. Um, they have running. It's so interesting while you're running and the things you see and the kinds of people you see of, just like it's people you know, all shapes and sizes, if you will, and it's just funny. I never liked getting passed by a 10 year old or an 80 year old. It makes me feel the absolute worst. But you have those people out there and I think that's where that running community kind of sticks. In. Didn't really answer your question. I kind of answered it with things and then I'm all over the place.
Speaker 2:You said you would do that. So a man true to his word.
Speaker 3:That's what I do.
Speaker 2:See, that was me. When I ran my five K, I was like if I saw someone creeping up on me, cause this was like a work related five K. I was like oh, oh, hell, no, you're not going to beat me, not today.
Speaker 3:Not today.
Speaker 2:Then I would just kick it down, and then I paid the price for that, for sure.
Speaker 3:There's been a few times where I've con towards the end of races and have played that exact same thing where, like towards the end, when I need that just extra motivation, I will pick out people and like I'm going to pass that person. I'm going to pass that person. It helps me just mentally. There's been a few times where people didn't like that and would like kick it with me. A few times I've lost. A few times I've won. It's been. It's always good for a high five at the end, but they're just like I hate you. Like why did you, why did you make me do that?
Speaker 2:That would be me too. If I saw someone creeping up, I would kick it down as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to. You're not going to let them. You're not going to let them pass you like that. That's just no, you don't, you got to put it down. I used to do a Santa speedo race. I actually just got my Facebook memory, I think Funny Yesterday for it. I did like five or six years in a row where it's just a Santa hat and a speedo running downtown Columbus in December. It's. It's miserable, you know, when it's 20 degrees out and freezing.
Speaker 2:You were only a speedo.
Speaker 3:Speedo and a Santa hat.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:I'll send you some pictures, not in a creepy way, please. I'll send you some pictures and you can be like this I said you were cute, but I mean, I don't know if I was asking for you in a speedo.
Speaker 3:Nobody was. But you know what I did. I threw it online. Anyways, you, I don't. You may have seen it or maybe I don't know. Every year for back to school because I'm an asshole everyone's posting the pictures of it's their first day of school. It's their first day of school. So then I post a picture of me and a speedo, saying if I got to see your stupid kid, you get to see me in a speedo. I love that. Do it every year now. So yeah, anyone that's listening. You could just scroll back in my Instagram feed. You've been warned. We'll just say that you might stumble across it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you've been warned. Does Caitlin run?
Speaker 3:Kayla, but no.
Speaker 2:Kayla, I knew that.
Speaker 3:Kayla, yeah, it's okay, no she does not.
Speaker 3:I give her so much credit. We did this thing one time where we ran a. It's a 40 day challenge. You run from Thanksgiving day to New Year's day. Just a mile a day is your minimum. I did two miles because I was in the middle of training and she's like you know what? I'll do this with you. I'll do a mile a day for 40 days and for 40 days she got up with me, no matter the weather, went outside and ran her mile and I remember on January 1st she got back from her run and she says never again.
Speaker 2:I'm done, I'm done.
Speaker 3:And I was like you know what I can't fault you for, that you actually went out for 40 straight days and ran a mile every day. Like You'll never hear me say oh, come on run. No, if you want to do it, you'll do it. If you don't want to, that's fine.
Speaker 2:That's fine. Did you keep pace with her, or did you lose labor in the dirt?
Speaker 3:No, I stayed with her. That was kind of the part. This could be counter-erase for people listening. If couples are running to race together or something like that, to me you're staying with the slower person. Now if that person is hurt or injured and saying, hey, go on, where do the case might be? Maybe there's the difference, but I know a lot of people that will run races with their spouses or partners and just leave them, like they see them at the start line and then that's it. Or they'll go on training runs and they just leave them and then circle back and stuff and it's like you know what, if we're going to do this together, we're going to do it together. It's just like the people you see walking on the beach and they both have headphones on and they're not talking to each other. They're like, what the hell are you doing? Like just enjoy each other's company. Like that's why you're taking. If you didn't want this, like to do this, one person could sit in the chair. You could take turns doing this.
Speaker 2:Right, I like that. That's good. All right, let's pivot a little bit. What inspired you to podcast? I think we kind of talked about that a little bit at the beginning. You were just saying that you wanted to capture a lot of the goodness and all that stuff, but were you scared to start podcasting? What did that look like at the beginning?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was pretty interesting. So before I had this show I had a podcast called Running Beer and BS. The idea was I had a buddy of mine, one of the running community guys. He lived two doors down from me and our whole podcast was talking about just running type things. There was zero script. Every episode we drank a new beer. We eventually got popular enough that people were sending us beer and stuff like that, which was just crazy. We had to give people one of our friends that's a lawyer. We gave him his office address because I'm like I don't want random strangers on the internet knowing my address. That seems suspect.
Speaker 3:But we basically would just have a conversation once a week and we did it, for I think we did 54 episodes straight. We didn't miss a single week and it was 62 episodes, I think, maybe because it was over a full year. But we would just hang out and just talk and at first it was just like it felt a little cheesy. Right, we had the whole intro and you do the music and we do the whole thing, and it felt like kind of. But then it got into a groove where it was just like, hey, I'm hanging out with my buddy and we're having a talk just like we do when we're on a run. And then we got to meet a lot of really cool people and that's when our podcast started to shift to more to less about him and I having a conversation, but then meeting new people and hearing people's stories and hearing different group stories and we'd be invited to brewery launches and we would have conversations with the brewers and stuff like that was really cool.
Speaker 3:And then when that podcast ended I had moved further away and then just logistically it made it hard to do and when that happened we kind of separated from the podcast and I still felt like I had this like bug to do it. I was just like I feel like I could like talk to people or I could do things. So you know kind of relaunched this podcast as running with purpose or run with purpose. And it was rough at the beginning because I went from having a co-host that he was really quick and witty and we could go back and forth and we could see where each other was going in the conversation. So it felt easier to me talking in a microphone by myself and I was just like, oh, this is real weird. I was like I need to get some guests because I don't want to listen to this shit and I'm recording it. So ended up just reaching out to some people that I knew and that kind of started the conversations. And then I you know I'm an introvert by nature but I'm trying to like force myself to gather here.
Speaker 3:The podcast has really helped me grow with that of being able to talk to people.
Speaker 3:You'll look people in the eyes, have authentic conversations, listen to what people have to say and really with that was able to continue to grow. And then I was like, hey, I'm just going to reach out to random people on Instagram, so I would finish a race and I'd see like a race would have a hashtag or something like that. Then I would just search that hashtag and I would just see like, hey, who has a cool story of why they ran or what their background was or what it is. And I just but I'm like, hey, I have a podcast, you want to talk to me? Like, I think you, I think you have a pretty cool story, let's just talk. And it really became this opportunity for people to kind of share their lives and their stories in an atmosphere they wouldn't have had the opportunity to. I think we talked about this when you were on my show, so shameless plug for people to go listen to that episode because it was great, but I had a lady on the best one.
Speaker 3:It was so good. We? There was a lady I had on my show that I met her at the Morgantown Marathon in West Virginia. Perhaps I had to think about it. Yeah, morgantown, she lives in West Virginia and our conversation was supposed to be about her. Her son is on the autism spectrum and he was going to college and he was growing. It was just really a hey. I'd like to learn about a single mom going through this. Like, just tell me your experience. Like I'm super interested Again, wanting to learn about people and those kinds of things.
Speaker 3:And the conversation took a hard left turn, talking about domestic abuse and domestic violence and a lot of times, a lot of it, just me shut up, as most guys should do in these situations, and just listening and saying, holy crap, like that's nuts and the things that she said and how she and then I had people reaching out like thank you so much for having her on their episode. I know someone that's going through similar thing. Thank you, she provided resources, she did whatever, and I'm like those. That's the reason why I keep doing the podcast and I keep talking and you know it's not the largest podcast. I don't make any money off of this. I have no advertisements. I have no nothing. I pay for everything. But I'm like to me it's. I get to meet really cool people and have stories and and hear their stories, and if I can help promote somebody to make them know that their story matters and I have an audience that will listen to that, I'm all about it.
Speaker 3:I'll keep doing this until the last listener stops.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think too, like when I was younger it was really hard for me to ask hard questions, and now I really want to know and I don't feel afraid to ask hard questions. And I think that the more that you have lived life and have experienced trauma or difficult times, you understand more what that it looks like and you realize that other people who have gone through that they do get to a point, as time goes by, that they want to talk about it. It becomes therapeutic and they want to try to help somebody that might be stuck in that same situation. So I agree with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's one of those where you, like you said, you grow through those experiences, right, and then you become more aware of hey, I'm not the only one dealing with this, I'm not the only one that's ever thought about this, but what's nice for you and I is we have an audience that we don't use as a Look at me, look at it, all the things that I've done but really, hey, let's talk about this topic. This thing is very interesting to me. Let's break it down and see what's going on here and maybe I'll learn something along the way.
Speaker 3:Most of my episode ideas come from me scrolling through Instagram reels and I hear a motivational quote and I just literally write that down with it, with the hashtag podcast idea in my notes. I'm just like that's actually a really, really cool idea. Let me just talk about it for 25 minutes, you know, write down a couple of notes and figure out what this is, and then, if I have find someone with a really cool story, because you're like, just tell me your story and we're just, we're just gonna vibe with it, right, you know the episode we had, right, there's just like you do here. There's like two notes for us to have just to make sure the conversation keeps moving. But other than that, it's like we're having an authentic conversation with what's going on and I think In our, in our society right now, with social media and content creators and influencers and all that. Everything is scripted. You don't get this like unscripted, of raw feeling, like the amount of reality TV shows that are on now what's scripted, not reality?
Speaker 3:Yeah, golden bachelor? Is that the? Is that the new old person?
Speaker 2:one. So now it's over and the I didn't know, I Didn't watch it, but you know I've heard a lot of highlight reels. Are you gonna see stuff on the internet in the two people, the two girls that it was down to? One of them was from Minneapolis, but I guess she didn't win was the other girl. But well, that happens sometimes.
Speaker 3:But it's like the amount of things that are just completely scripted and they know how it's all written, right. And I think one really good thing and thing I like about podcast is it gives us an opportunity just to talk. It's a radio show and you don't have to pay for radio frequency, right, like there's so many avenues where we can post these things for free. Now, when I started podcasting five years ago, you had to pay for everything, still okay. Now, now you don't even have to. Everything can be hosted for free. You know we can use these video services, we can use whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to buy equipment, but I mean, I was paying ten bucks a month when I first started doing podcast stuff just just to host the episodes. That's it not clouding anything else that I was doing with video and stuff like that, and it just become a lot more accessible now. And I think people are really, you find you're like me, right, and you can like hey, these, I'm gonna talk to these people. These people are like me or like-minded, let me listen to them. Or and that's why I try to like, bring up some topics that maybe aren't like-minded, like, let's, let's, let's stretch a little bit, let's get you a little on comfy, because I don't want you to just feel like you know another, another white dude in his mid 30s with a podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that too, like for me, I don't want to when I have a guest, I don't want to just do like the same genre, like I want to try to like mix it up because I want to learn to right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a hundred percent a selfish reason. Most of the guests I have on the show is Because I want to know who these people are and I want to hear their stories. And that's why a lot of times when I have, you know, we talked for a little bit beforehand because we just couldn't figure I couldn't get a date to work, you know, decided to move across the country again. I Try to not know much about the guests before I have them on, because I thoroughly want to enjoy Having a conversation with them and really learn things about them or a different perspective, and you know, and Nine times out of ten other people end up getting something from it as well.
Speaker 2:So I'm looking at your shirt and you're wearing a hangry shirt. So tell us about the hangry movement. Yeah, I've always known hangry, like when that word came out. You know everyone's like oh, I get hangry for sure. And that's always like an ongoing thing at our host, because if somebody is hungry, nobody wants to pick where to eat, and then somebody gets super hangry and then it's like Don't what, how does it go? Something like I didn't mean what I said when I was hangry.
Speaker 3:Exactly exactly. That's so great.
Speaker 2:But your movement is nothing to do with that, so it's.
Speaker 3:It's like the opposite in a way. So the idea hangry itself is we the word hangry as we were angry for those living with the issue of hunger, so we split the weeks, we turned that definition on its head and really it's an organization that my wife and I started that Helps helps those in need, that are dealing with food insecurities right Whether we support food pantries or Schools that are giving backpacks to kids with food, literally just handing out meals the people and stuff like that. That's what hangry is is kind of, for it started as the hangry race series. Again, talking about my running, my running kind of led me to this had a pastor that said, you know, you may not have the most Influencer, are the most amount of money, and you feel like, hey, how can I make an impact with what I have? These like use your gifts and abilities To make a difference. And I was like, well, I like running. That's my forest gump, running is my favorite.
Speaker 2:Jenny.
Speaker 3:Lieutenant Dan got no legs Derailed. I started. Mama said they're my magic legs, they take me anywhere I want to go. We will be this. Welcome to the forest gump podcast, side note, I'm. So I'm going to electric forest. It's an electronic music festival in Michigan and I'm looking to make, like, some flags for our campground area and I'm gonna do some forest gump ones. I've actually I saved some designs out that I was like I'm gonna get designing this here. So Stay tuned, I'll be making horrible mistakes and spending stupid amount of money on flags for no reason. But Such as life. But we started the hangry race.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we wanted to put on a 5k. Originally it was gonna be our church was putting it on and I was just gonna kind of like lead it and it was gonna support the issue of Hunger. So we called it the hangry race series and we kind of rolled with it. Shortly after we launched it, the church was just like hey, we don't have time to do this like to help promote it. It was literally gonna be like two weeks after Easter. They're just like hey, do you mind rolling with this? And I was like I'll figure it out. Like as long as you guys help me with you getting the word out and stuff, I think we'll be good. The first race we had less than 90 days from idea to race. We had about 80 people show up, raise the couple thousand dollars which was like blew my mind that, yeah, that's great oh up to something there.
Speaker 3:Like I was like this is so crazy. And then everyone's like, well, when's the next race? You know like when's the wins, the what and that was the. That was the race we did and yeah, from there just kind of grew. We started doing a spring race and then, like a turkey race, people hated the courses I picked out because I would always find the hilliest areas of town and the trails to do so. They were always like super complicated, technical, not your typical, easy, like I'm having a great time. 5k, it's like no more seasoned runners yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I used to have, and, because of our running community, I had all the volunteers, I had all that and had the extra support, which is really, really nice, and I had a few races when people used to have a GoPro at the end of the race and I have videos of people just going like this, like pointing at me as they're crossing the finish line, just like give me this. Look, you did this, like this is. Why did you do this? Is your fault? I'm like well, you're supporting the issue of hunger.
Speaker 1:It's for a good cause?
Speaker 3:Exactly exactly. But then when kind of COVID came, came on the same. If you guys aren't familiar with it, there was this pandemic a few years ago and when I wish I could have missed it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, too soon. So when that all just kind of played, obviously food pantries got really scars, you know, like there wasn't food for them to get because obviously we had supply chain issues in general and then people are losing their jobs. So the lines were getting longer, more families were in need and then because of the social distancing, like you couldn't just go Into a food pantry, they had to have these like drive through lines or pack back. There's just all this need and we're like you know what we got to turn this into an actual nonprofit. So we were we were not for profit, llc, just for legality made it a lot easier to handle and we said, hey, you know what we need to. We need to be a 5013 C, so C3, always get the mix over, it doesn't matter we're, we're one of whatever those things are.
Speaker 3:I'm a great executive director of a nonprofit. I always mix up the letters. I'm pretty sure it's C3, c3, po maybe that's inspiring.
Speaker 2:You don't have to know the order of numbers and letters to be executive director or tax exempt.
Speaker 3:We are tax exempt, so that's what I know. I should just say that instead it's a lot easier, but we did that, we went through, went through that whole process and really, how hangry Earns our money brings money into it to donate. We originally were trying to do races COVID happened that those things came canceled, came canceled and then, basically, merchant I sales and donation. So I designed all of our merchandise and we sell things. We are hangry. Comm is our website. You can read a little bit about us. If you go there right now, though, it will have just a landing page. I am doing a complete revamp. We're gonna have some new designs and stuff come January, which I'm excited about, some new colors, some new gear. But yeah, basically, we all the proceeds to go out the door. So we partner.
Speaker 3:We have a program with feeding America that, every time an item is sold, we donate 50 meals To families in need through family America. Really, what that equates to is we donate $5 to them. So they say a dollar provides 10 meals for families in America. For every item we sell, we we just give away five bucks, then on top of that, any of the proceeds that aren't from the cost of the material, the things we buy. We then host different things. So we go down to Florida every year around Christmas and they the sheriff department in Florida has youth ranches where they are basically, you know, people's families are incarcerated or they they're almost like orphans and they don't have a place to go for a temporary period of time they go to. These are the youth ranches, which is an amazing program to help out with.
Speaker 3:Kaila and I provide dinners, will go there a couple nights and will provide a dinner for the entire. You know 40, 50 kids or whatever that are there. And then there's a food pantry we support. We go there Our first day we get into into Florida it's in the Tampa area, done Eden as the name of the town and we say let's, let's shop. We're basically shopping their shelves to see what they need and like okay, you need ketchup, you need mustard, you need dressing, you whatever. And then we go to Walmart and we buy everything, literally everything they have, and if they have 300 dressings, we're buying them. A fun fact for anyone curious 300 or 299 items is the most amount of items you can have in a Walmart single Check out.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that yeah, the Reddisher yells at the cashier and says you need to end this transaction and start a new one. But yeah, we'll get like six or seven shopping carts full of things and then we then we drop it off the next day and that's the kind of thing that like that's hangry's purpose, right. Like I'm the only tech technical employee from a tax aspect but I make zero dollars. My wife is a treasurer so she controls all the money to make sure it's going out the door appropriately. But that's kind of our. Our thing is we want to help, we wanted to find a way to help people and this is how we do it.
Speaker 3:I can use my design skills to kind of help things. I did not design. This specific logo with the bread and loaf was an amazing artist out of Cleveland, lindsay, that had done that. But all the other designs that we have on the shirt and stuff like that I had designed. So it's like how can I do this to kind of spread the word of those that are in need, because a lot of times people don't realize it. Yeah, I love that you do that.
Speaker 2:I think that's such a big thing and you know the whole people. Being hungry and not having food is so terrible and I hate throwing food in the garbage because of it. I know it doesn't stop anything, like if somebody else that doesn't need it eats it, but it's just so hard because you know that there's people who would do anything for that. And what a great feeling jump feeding that many people or or bringing that much stuff that they need to that location. How rewarding, I mean. And it's not you're not doing it for that, but it. It is beneficial because then you feel good, they feel full.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's really what it is. It's like how often the idea of hangry right of please excuse me for what I said when I was hangry Imagine people living in that though right Like that's their permanent state and when you live in that state, the amount of other things that then go by the wayside.
Speaker 3:You know a lot of the people that we support through the organizations that we Support and they have a choice to make do they keep their lights on and keep a roof, or their families had, or do they feed them? And and I couldn't imagine having to make that choice for my family so I'm trying to figure out how can we do things and make a difference in people's lives, again Indirectly in a way, because we're kind of the conduits of money comes in. We figure out where the need is and we do it, and we usually work with smaller pantries and stuff like that that aren't getting like additional support, that that really are doing.
Speaker 2:You know, in something big in the community.
Speaker 3:I don't like the big ones. I'm afraid that's about always saying that I like that the big ones are supporting, but when you're operating budget is five million dollars a year, you're getting some support somewhere else. You know and you're doing the things, so you don't need my additional support to help there. You're hopefully using those funds and in economical way and really supporting the community in a sustainable way, because we really support organizations that are trying to help these people get out of this as well, right?
Speaker 3:It's not the idea of just like and I don't want to sound insensitive in this way but the idea of giving a handout right, sometimes people need to lift it up. We're not handing out, we're lifting up. And how do we use that to lift them out of their situation? What do they need to do there? Do they need some clothes? Okay, hangry, doesn't we? We've primarily focus on Food, but hey, if we can provide their food, well, now they have money to buy clothes and now they can get a job that they've been working for. They Can put the roof over.
Speaker 2:that's one less void that they have to fill. Yeah, exactly I love it.
Speaker 3:I think that's where. That's where we tried to fit in and now that we're here in the Chicago area Kind of a purpose of the revamp as well as when we were in Minnesota for a few years we just didn't have an opportunity to really do a lot. We did a couple things with our local church, not too much. So now that we're here in Chicago at a new church, saying, okay, how can we, how can we support and do hangry, you know, and unfortunately, and this is just the reality of it is Our society and culture. We just have cyclical kind of things that remind us.
Speaker 3:Right during the pandemic, hunger was a big thing, so every, everyone was throwing money at hunger issues. Now it's not on people's minds anymore, to be honest. So when you, when I'm posting this thing, you're like, hey, do you know? You know, one in five kids is basically going home hungry, kind of thing. You're like that's not good. How do we stop that? Yeah, like, yeah, you know, and not to take away from any of these other organizations, but it's like things like human trafficking or sex trafficking, all these things You're a very big problems that we have, but people see that because they can see it on the news. They see, whatever you don't realize, the person that's living next to you might have to go to a food pantry line twice a week.
Speaker 2:It's not as invisible.
Speaker 3:I think there's a billboard actually here outside of Chicago. That's just like hunger isn't visible most of the time and Because it's not people, then just don't see it as an issue. And then you know that's what we start Losing fundraising and we do these things which, again, not see. Those other things are very good causes and they definitely need your money and we need to support that. But it's also keeping in mind that it's not just an out-of-sight, out of mind type of situation, because you can get that way with anything.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, yeah, it's always. I mean, it's been an issue my entire life and it's gonna continue to be an issue for a long time. So, yep, fun fact, we both have tattoos of our dogs. So tell me about your dog, bella, bella B.
Speaker 3:Yes, bella, she uh had passed it last year. So she, so yeah, we had. Bella was 13 when she passed and it was like our daughter really was. She went everywhere with us. She did most of the races. I always say that Bella's pooped in more states than people have been to. I think 30. I think 38 states is when I last calculated, it counted it up. She used to go everywhere with us. Where we flew or drove, she was always with us, which was just so, so great. And After the last race it was the day before the one-year anniversary of her passing.
Speaker 3:So we we scheduled, we had planned the entire year Excuse me Sorry, we had planned that entire year to do these tattoos on on her one year. So my wife got one as well In the same area on our arm. And then, yeah, we went to an amazing artist and you gonna gron, he's in Huntington, new York. Just absolutely insane. You can see on my, my Instagram feed, just the details of some of the stuff he did. He's just, he's absolutely amazing. It turned out so, so well. But, yeah, she was just a cute little, cute little Havanese little 10 pound.
Speaker 3:Just pistol she was, she was great. So it's been. It's been tough without her, but it's one of those where you know we kind of keep moving on. People always ask like you know, why don't you have kids? I have a key chain that says sorry, I can't have kids. My dogs allergic and I was like that's hilarious and and and people asked where to get another dog now and it's just like I don't.
Speaker 3:You know I've had, I had a Family dog growing up and when he had passed. It was sad. But this was a little different. I'm, you know, getting her when she was 10 weeks old and Kind of the whole journey of everything we've been through. She was the only one in our wedding. Her family was pissed Because we didn't have like a wedding party or anything. Bella was in the wedding. She was our ring bearer, so she should be. She had a little dress on, put her rings around her collar and she just walked slowly and pranced all the way down the sand because we got married on the beach in North Carolina and it was just just absolutely adorable. But yeah, so we're like you know what it's right now it's us and that's that's the way it's gonna be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you guys have been moving around and traveling so much for work and stuff, so it's, you know, it's always timing too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. It's weird how you don't, in the moment, you're just like why the hell is this happening? What's going on? What's? What's the bigger picture here? And I think that we get this in life right in general, where we may not see what's actually going on and you're like wait a second, okay, this happened because of this, this, this set me up so I could do this thing. Right, you know, things, things happen, yeah, it's, yeah, it still sucks. It's allowed to still suck your loudest. It'll be like this. I wish this didn't happen.
Speaker 3:However, we have to kind of change our mindset and realize let's look at the other side of this, because there are two sides of the coin what, what became because of this thing that may not have had these other things not happen? I think we can get so caught up in our day-to-day life when we lose that mindset, we lose that perspective, where we're so single, focused on what's going on, that we don't For lack of a better term, we don't stop and smell the roses, right, you just, you're just. You're just focused on the shit that you're looking at. You're not realizing the path you're on, and that was the journey for the whole 50 states thing. They kind of circle back to that, because I obviously can't stop talking about running. Apparently is this this idea of. When I write my race reports and stuff like that. The race is the shortest part of what I'm writing. I've noticed over the years it's the journey of everything in between what led me up to that race, what happened after that race, and then the same thing you rinse and repeat.
Speaker 3:The running part wasn't the the journey part of it. Yeah, it was a lot of miles, a lot of time on my feet, you know, and I made some relationships there. But that's what it was about. It's like the relationships I made while I was running, the journey of how we got to these places, drove to Jackson, misses to be twice for, you know, to do a race, or flights detour all over the country, you know, flat tires that caused us to get in super late, like all of these crazy, crazy things that happen.
Speaker 3:But it's the journey, that's. That's the big part of it and with something this large again last nine years doing different states, it's so easy to hit the end and go what next? What now? What do I do? What? My whole life was wrapped up in this, and we do this with our, with kids. We do this with our job. We do these things and when those things change, like holy shit, what now? But that's what we have to change that perspective in mindset right to say, hey, it's about the journey, we're not focused on the destination. Destination is important, so you can make sure you're going the right way, but it's really about the journey that you're on that's getting you there. That really that really makes her break, is it?
Speaker 2:So, with that, what's next for you? Because you know you finished that whole 50 states of a minute ago, so you had some time to reflect. And what what's next for you? Oh, that's.
Speaker 3:That's so funny. I didn't. I forgot we're team things up and I was just like, yeah, I'm going right, you're like perfect timing, segway. So there's a few other, there's the something called the world majors in marathon. So it's New York, chicago, boston, london, tokyo, berlin. I just have London and Tokyo left, unfortunately, their lotteries. Hopefully I find out in a couple days if I got into London. I didn't get into Tokyo next year in 2024, but Hopefully I can get into those races eventually. That's my, my play as a finished world majors. Ideally also run in every continent would be cool, like it's not as Hard after it, like I was the 50 states.
Speaker 2:Harder to accomplish that too, then just getting in her car and driving somewhere.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I can't just, yeah, I can't just get in the car. I'm like I'm going to Africa. Yeah, that's fair, that would be a really bad. That's maybe that's what I'll do in order to go to all the continents. I have to do it by, not air.
Speaker 2:That's a cruise ship. I mean, that would be luxurious.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that seems to that seems too high end for me. I need to go just bare bones, just go here. But but no, I don't like, I don't know, it's crazy. I my blog. I said when I started it I was gonna have 52 posts, I was gonna have an intro post, I was gonna have 50 races and I was gonna have a closing post and and obviously it's looking a little wild to write my last race, but I I don't even know how to close out this journey and think about things.
Speaker 3:One thing that came up a handful of times and I'm and I'm throwing it around is writing a book, kind of a memoir of sorts of like what a lot of the stuff that I talked about on the podcast it really again comes from things that I've I've read or learned while I've been on this running journey. So turning that journey into a book, not really like a race recap of this race happened and this thing happened, but kind of like the things I've learned along the way, like in this last a decade how my life has changed in so many ways with so many things happening from again, from job changes to Co-fid to getting laid off, to Bella, to finishing the race like everything in between, how it kind of Just changed my perspective on a lot of things. So that is kind of in the works.
Speaker 2:And that's one of the things I like about you and I think that you could write a really great book because you're very inspiring and you're really good at looking at the bigger picture and, like you said, like, yeah, it sucks and you still have to go through it, but You're learning in the process and I think that you're really good at talking about those kinds of things and Sometimes when I listen to you and I'm in a funk, I'm like he's right, you know, it's not that bad. I'm not actually hangry and I didn't run off if these dates.
Speaker 3:It could always be worse. I could be Jonathan, no, yeah, no, no, no. I think I appreciate that and I think that's With all the things I do, I don't like doing them, for I Don't know like the adabos and stuff like that, like it's tough.
Speaker 3:I was just talking to somebody about it at our guys group of just like with the nonprofit and stuff. I don't like it to say it's like my organization or my wife and like it's how do we help the community? It's the same thing with all this stuff is, if I write a book and one person buys it, I count that as a win for me, like you know.
Speaker 2:Just if you can help.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that's. That, to me, is the the point of all of this. I think that's the point of life in a way. It's like if we, if we live our lives to hold on for ourselves and to build ourselves up, we're never, we're never going to reach it right. We need to be Outward giving and whatever that means whether it's time, money, you know, abilities, whatever the case might be is how can you help, support somebody else? Because that's where you're gonna actually feel this fullness of like you know we were. We're meant for community. As much as an introvert as I am, we're meant for community and to help other people. And again, it's why the podcast I know this is why you you talk about things that you talk about too. It's because it's it's important to kind of share those stories and share those different perspectives, because if we don't, who will?
Speaker 2:right, so things you're looking forward to goals.
Speaker 3:If rest has been really nice. I've only ran like two times since. Since the last race, which is his nuts, I was telling Kayla I ran three times, ran three times in the month of October and Two of them were marathons, which is hilarious. But yeah, just rest has been a nice thing, I think, getting into the start of the year and Goal-wise really, I think, as I'm, as I'm looking forward to next year, I think a book probably is on the horizon, or at least starting that process and, you know, just just continuing to learn and continuing to grow, I think with the, the 50 states behind me again, not that I want to Put the attention on me, but I think it'll give me an opportunity to talk to more people Because I've, because I've done something now.
Speaker 2:It's a great accomplishment. I mean, don't, don't discredit yourself.
Speaker 3:Give me too much credit.
Speaker 2:Well, I just want to thank you so much for doing this episode with me and also for being helpful, supportive. You truly are a bright light, and where can everyone find you?
Speaker 3:Instagram's the best place. At flores dot run there is a dot in that username and then you can visit my website, wwwflores dot run. Have the race reports up there, all the podcast things there. But yeah, shoot me a DM, reach out to me. If you think you have a cool story. You know some what the cool story? I will hijack the podcast here for a second. Just reach out to me.
Speaker 2:I'd love to talk to you and just or if you've already done this podcast and you're like I love podcasting, I want to do another one. Here's your opportunity.
Speaker 3:Let's go. I have all of this fancy, but like I have this beautiful light up here, like, give me more reasons to use it.
Speaker 2:He has a way better equipment than I do. You'll be moving on up.
Speaker 3:Nonsense, nonsense.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, thank you so much, and I will talk to you in a little bit.
Speaker 3:It sounds good Thanks.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, you know, I really love my friend Jonathan, and Even after talking to him, I still have no desire to run a marathon. So there's that All right. Mccoy, do you have a? Would you rather for me this week?
Speaker 1:All right, would you rather? Did you forget?
Speaker 2:you forget. I thought you had it written down. I don't want, all right, hang on.
Speaker 1:All right, we're back. Um, now, this is what I do. My would you rather? And she does her joke. I'll go my would you rather be able to read minds or predict the future?
Speaker 2:Let me tell you, I don't want anyone to know what goes through my head, so I definitely don't want to read people's minds. So I guess I would rather, what is it? See the future, predict the future, oh, hell yeah, because then I could predict that I'm the lottery winner. I know the winning lottery numbers and I'm moving to the Hollywood Hills Peace out.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go predict the future as well, because that's just way better. Because, yeah, what are you? What are you gonna do? I'm gonna be coming in, I'm just gonna take all the ideas and I'm gonna know what happens every time. So, like I'm gonna be, like I'm gonna become famous and then I'm gonna make a lot of money out of that, you know.
Speaker 2:Sports betting. That's what Justin always says he would do if he knew the future. He just won a ton of money in sports betting. Are you ready for the funniest joke you've heard all day? Yeah, all right. What did the elephant say?
Speaker 1:Get it out, get it out.
Speaker 2:What did the elephant say to the naked man? No, how do you breathe through that tiny thing? Do you get it? Because an elephant's trunk is also its nose. And when he saw the naked man, he thought the man's trunk was his penis and he said how do you breathe through that tiny thing?
Speaker 1:You can laugh now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you for listening to another episode of honor best behavior. If you have a Shrew, if you have a story that you want to share, whether it be something great that happened to you, something terrible that happened to you, if you are Wanting to talk about your business endeavor or whatever you have going on, we're open to listening to whatever you have to tell us, as long as it's interesting. So we'll see you next week, hey. Hey, this isn't the one that you had at the dentist's office. Calm down.